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  1. On 3/21/2024 at 8:32 PM, BlindSeeker said:

    So, I will start this thread over again the same way, by simply sharing Chapter 18 from my book "The Eighth Beast," which I wrote as a stand alone article back i 2002 shortly after 9/11.

    I agree with your assessment of the seven heads being kingdoms that have been or are significant in the history of Israel.

    Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains upon which the woman sits, and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. The beast which was, and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction.  Rev 17:9-11

    Have you considered the possibility that the beast is himself an eighth "king" and not an eighth beast?

    Let me explain.  From Daniel 10 we know that evil spirit beings known as princes are responsible for spawning earthly kingdoms, prince of Persia, Greece.  There's no reason not to think that this is true of all the seven heads.  Revelation 17:9-10 show this supernatural / natural cause and effect.  The seven mountains are seven risings of supernatural influence.  Mountains are often used in describing kingdoms.  These risings result in the earthly office of king.

    When it comes to this final world kingdom (the U.N), there is no office of kingship so the evil angel prince who spawned it is acting as its de facto ruler, an eighth king.  This is until the man of sin is revealed and becomes the seventh king.

  2. 6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

    About the only place I see the symbol of a cross is around churches.

    I read the news about everyday.I haven't read where anyone is trying to tear down the churches.

    Have you seen where they are removing churches from the United states?

    Maybe he's referencing what they're doing in the Ukraine.  We all know who's pulling the strings there.

  3. On 3/22/2024 at 2:41 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

    Trump's chance to "cross the Rubicon" passed years ago.  The people who own him don't want America great again.  That's a ruse and a false hope.  The MAGA movement is a controlled burn.  America will die on her bed from internal strife and corruption.  It should become obvious before the year's out.  What takes her place is yet to be seen.

  4. 12 hours ago, The Hare said:

    Throughout the past two millennia, there have been constant speculations over the biblical End Times. Scriptures had been interpreted and reinterpreted, according to the zeitgeist of the day, in an effort to identify events leading up to humanity’s concluding phase. 

    Many observers in times past, who were witnesses to countless atrocities and lawlessness during their lives, had believed that the end was nigh. Even Jesus’ disciples, the apostle Paul, and the early churches were not immune from these speculations. 

    There were two ancient red lines that were not crossed until recently:

    https://drmathewmaavak.substack.com/p/two-cardinal-signs-of-the-end-times

     

    And this:

    And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.  Matthew 24:14

  5. 43 minutes ago, Know Jah said:

    Well, my understanding about the antichrist is what John wrote, John is the only bible writer that mentions the antichrist. 1 John 2:18-21. Therefore I understand the antichrist to be anyone who who denies Christ. John stated that even then there were many antichrist. Not just one man 

    From Paul:

    No one is to deceive you in any way! For it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.  2 Thess 2:3-4

    I think people refer to this one guy as the antichrist.  I prefer "man of sin" or "son of perdition" as is stated in the text.

  6. 21 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

    Here God is establishing His “blueprint” for the 4 and only 4 kingdoms that will be found WITHIN HIS PROPHETIC STORY IN DANIEL. Obviously, God wants us to focus ONLY on this 4 kingdoms even though there were and will be hundreds of other kingdoms before and after the cross.

    Yours is one way to look at it but if you equate Christ's first coming with the stone striking the feet of iron and clay then you have to explain how all the previous kingdoms were crushed at that time and how not a trace of any of them remained . . . when traces have remained.

    The only thing that makes sense to me is to look at the four angelic princes behind the earthly kingdoms.  They came out in succession beginning with Babylon and ending with Rome.  During the course of the gospel going out to the nations, these four princes were in the abyss unable to exert any influence on earth.  After the gospel was preached around the world and the first seal was opened, all four princes were released to play their part in setting the stage for the man of sin.  The feet of iron and clay is the manifestation of their efforts.

    Don't get hung up on there being 4 and only 4 kingdoms.  The legs of iron, and the feet of iron and clay, are seen as one kingdom because the same prince is responsible for both.  It may appear as two earthly kingdoms separated by a couple thousand years or so but the origin for both is the same.

  7. 7 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

    I agree that verse 2:34 is speaking in a spiritual manner… so,

    Is this verse speaking of the Messiah’s first coming?

    The end is not yet so if it does not refer to His first coming, then it has not yet happened, correct?

    Is it possible that the stone (Messiah) that struck the feet of the image took place when He first came for the purpose of breaking apart (not destroying) the iron and the clay elements only? 

    The kingdom of God did come with Christ at His first advent.  I don't think the prophecy of the stone hitting the feet of iron and clay is a reference to His first advent though.  

    You continued watching until a stone was broken off without hands, and it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay, and crushed them. Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were crushed to pieces all at the same time, and they were like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found.  Daniel 2:34-35

    Notice that all of the components of the statue were crushed to pieces all at the same time when the stone hit the statue, and there was not a trace of them found.  That didn't happen at His first coming.

    Based on other passages, I think it's reasonable to assume that the angelic prince of the 4th kingdom was cast into the abyss during the first century and was released at the opening at the first seal, along with the princes of the other kingdoms represented by the statue.

    7 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

    And, since we know the iron symbolizes the 4th kingdom of pagan Rome, we would need to identify what the clay element is symbolizing?

    The feet of iron and clay represent the scope of the man of sin's authority which is every people, nation, tribe and tongue.  In governmental terms, you could say the U.N. is a kind of model.  The iron represents remnants of the Roman empire which still exist and clay is everyone else.

  8. 15 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

    In Daniel chapter 2, Nebuchadnezzar sees the Stone strike the feet of the metal man image. Does this symbolize an event at the time of the Messiah or an end-time event and why?

    End-time.  Traces are still found of Babylon, Persia, Greece, etc. (v35).  Understanding the spiritual nature of these earthly kingdoms helps to make sense of this prophecy, and others.

  9. 14 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

    @Marilyn C.... @Shilohsfoal....@Guest StormyMonday

     

    Let's break this down.....

                     Rev 17:9..... Here is the mind which has wisdom. 

    The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits

                     Rev 17:10.... and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while.

                        The seven heads are (seven mountains on which the woman sits)

                         and they are seven kings

                        

                        The seven heads ...... and they are seven kings.     

    So....

    The seven heads are seven kings. 

    Five have fallen.....one is..... the other has not yet come...... and when he comes, he must remain a little while.

    This is not speaking about physical mountains.

    A king must have a kingdom. 

    The seven mountains are seven kingdoms on which the woman sits. 

    Here is the mind which has wisdom.

    Go back and read Rev 17:1-3

                   Come here, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters,

    with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality.”

    And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns.

    The "many waters" on which the harlot sits (the woman) are gentile nations.

    The "scarlet beast" on which the woman sits is non other than Satan, who has, since time began, been sitting on the seven heads, ie kingdoms, with which he ruled and tried to wipe out the Jews to have the world for himself.

    The seven mountains or seven hills are NOT seven mountains or seven hills.

    They are kingdoms!

    Satan does NOT sit on seven mountains or hills.

    He has sat and is sitting on seven kingdoms.

     

    That passage from Revelation 17 jibes with Daniel 10 and shows the dual nature of earthly kingdoms, spiritual and natural.

    The mountains speak to the supernatural aspect, or as Daniel puts it, the princes of those kingdoms.  They result in the office of king that exercises earthly dominion.

    The heads of the dragon represent the power, throne, and great authority Satan exercised through these kingdoms, spiritually and naturally.

  10. 11 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

    There is only 4 kingdoms not 5.

    We know from Daniel 10 that these kingdoms have evil angel overlords.  The prince of Persia spawned the earthly kingdom of Persia, and likewise the prince of Greece.  Both of these princes are referenced in Daniel 10.  By extension, it's reasonable to assume that Rome had its prince too.

    It might be worth considering that the fourth prince, whose first manifestation was Rome, brought us the feed of iron and clay after his release from the abyss.  Four evil angel princes yielding five earthly kingdoms.

  11. On 12/7/2023 at 7:59 PM, Charlie744 said:

    Could these 7 churches serve as the "structure" where the remaining chapters in Revelation are placed? I have a feeling the 7 seals, 7 trumpets and the 7 bowls might be 3 different views that take place during these 7 churches...?

    Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 - This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

    John was told in Revelation 1:19 - Therefore write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.

    Using the sequence that Jesus established in Matthew 24, the seven churches represents preaching the gospel to the whole world.  After that, the scroll with seven seals brings about the end.

  12. On 2/8/2024 at 9:43 PM, Keras said:

    What is Prophesied to happen, is a big deal.  We have been told quite clearly what the Lord has planned for our future, why not read it, understand it and act upon it? 

    Not that we can actually do anything about it, but just being aware of it all, will be a great help to get through what must happen, and very soon!

    True.  That's why Jesus said the following in Matthew 24:25 - Behold, I have told you in advance.  And He repeatedly exhorts His followers to be ready and alert.

    People may classify His first coming as being somewhat hidden, but there's nothing hidden about His second coming for those who walk in the Light.

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  13. 2 minutes ago, Stormy Monday said:

    Why would God find it necessary to repeat the same message in two different visions by the same author?

    Daniel 7 shows the spiritual cause and Daniel 2 shows the natural effect.  The earthly kingdoms of Daniel 2 are the natural manifestations of the evil princes depicted as beasts in Daniel 7.  This natural / supernatural correlation is made clear in Daniel 10.  The beasts of Daniel 7 have spawned kingdoms in the past, and they will also have a role in the end times.

    8 minutes ago, Stormy Monday said:

    One thing for sure, they are all end-time kingdoms.

    They are all active in supporting the fourth beast in setting the stage for the man of sin.

  14. 20 minutes ago, AFlameOfFire said:

    I am not answering for Dennis he can answer for himself, but I had to ask, why wouldn't anyone think they were not two men? 

    I'm not answering for Tatwo but here's something to consider:

    The Lord of the earth appeared to Abraham in Genesis 18 along with His two witnesses who proceeded to Sodom to rescue Lot.  They brought mercy for the righteous and judgment for the ungodly.

    We know that angels are appointed duties and given responsibilities.  It could be that the two angels (witnesses) are involved in the administration of judgment and mercy, which can be seen in the law and the prophets. 

    Maybe these angels take on human form, or maybe they are there in a supporting role.  John the baptist came in the power and spirit of Elijah (Luke 1:17).  I think that speaks to more than just personality.  I think the same angelic spirit that supported Elijah supported John and will be one of the two witnesses either in human form or in support of a human.  The takeaway is that the two witnesses are primarily spiritual beings.

  15. 3 minutes ago, Keras said:

    The Lord does not appear at the Sixth Seal. The Godless peoples are terrified and dive for cover, they hide to avoid being seen; in the same way as sinners do now, thinking they can get away with their crimes in darkness.

    Quite true.  People get a glimpse into the throne room at the sixth seal.  They see the sign of the Son of Man (the Lamb) and fear His impending judgment.  They will see the Son of Man later at the seventh plague.

  16. 5 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

    So.... why is Rome called the kingdom of 'iron'???

    Hey Joe.

    If you look at the order of the metals of the statue in Daniel 2, they go from being the most noble (gold) to the least noble (iron), and I'm referring to the metallurgical property of nobility, not some abstract goodness.  Silver is inferior to gold because it is less noble as metals go.  Galvanic corrosion occurs in less noble metals.  Google the nobility of metals for a better explanation.

    My thought is that the forms of government used by the different kingdoms correlate to the nobility of their metals and consequently in their ability to become corrupted.  For better or worse, a dictatorship is more difficult to corrupt than a representative government. 

  17. 47 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

    No, you have not remembered the verse correctly. Below is the correct verse.

    The woman John saw is a city.

    Revelation 17

    18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    Again, you need to think of Babylon more in ideological terms, not natural terms.  Babylon is an evil city headed by Satan whose members espouse evil.  The harlot is simply a manifestation of that which will be destroyed by the beast and his ten horns for a specific purpose.  It is in contrast to the righteous city:

    But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels.  Hebrews 12:22

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  18. 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

    The woman who sits on seven kills is all about geography.

    The seven mountains are seven kingdoms with supernatural origin.  The princes of Persia and Greece (Daniel 10) brought about two of the seven.

  19. 8 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

    But Israel proper is the place the beast from the abyss and the ten horns attack and conquer.

    The harlot is less about geography and more about ideology.

    Yes, Israel will be attacked by the Dragon who fails and turns to persecute her offspring per the end of Rev 12.  That comes after the harlot's demise.  The beast and the ten horns set the stage for the Dragon's attack.  The beast and his horns are evil spirit beings.

  20. On 11/13/2023 at 4:08 AM, Diaste said:

    I find the parallel interesting. Both are attacks on Jerusalem, directly confronting the Most High God, for the purpose of annihilation, usurping the authority of the Most High. I find then the same lineage is not out of order, or perhaps Gog of Magog is a metaphor for the global troops of the enemy of God.

    Tend to agree with this, also that the enemies of God are both spiritual and natural.  Maybe like Gog and Magog.

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