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  1. Yes, and all believers are Daniel's people.
  2. Only in a fantasy. No scripture supports this.
  3. Yes it's a distraction. Nothing to do with the point. These times must be accounted for at the end of the age. Since Rev has not happened yet the two periods of 42 months are yet to occur. That equals 7 years, remarkably similar to the missing week of Daniel.
  4. I don't think so. Clearly there is a least one 42 month period specified in Revelation. Since that's 3.5 years it stands to reason not all has been fulfilled. With what Jesus said in Matt 24 there are periods of time before and after the A of D.
  5. Diaste

    Is Iran about to invade the Middle East?

    "The shaggy goat represents the king of Greece,"- Dan 8:21 Alexander is the first king and the confrontation between the ram and the goat happened 2300 years ago. What has not yet happened is, "In the latter part of their reign, when the rebellion has reached its full measure, an insolent king, skilled in intrigue, will come to the throne. 24 His power will be great, but it will not be his own. He will cause terrible destruction and succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men along with the holy people. 25 Through his craft and by his hand, he will cause deceit to prosper, and in his own mind he will make himself great. In a time of peace he will destroy many, and he will even stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be broken off, but not by human hands." - Dan 8:24-25 It's possible this will be Iran, as you say. It would fit with the rise of the little horn from that region of the world, which as far as I'm concerned is a must.
  6. A great many passages in Rev find this person to be an individual. A person called the beast is thrown into the lake of fire, a kingdom isn't.
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    End Time Events, Part 1

    Not necessarily before, at the same time would work as well. Also, as long as the ministry lasts 1260 days there could be overlap and they show up after the beast rises. The beast would have to rise 3.5 years before he reneges. If he didn't rise before and make the agreement how would he then renege in the middle of the week? The 1st seal begins the last week, this is when the beast rises. No. You'll see. No again. You'll see. Just ignoring what you don't like doesn't make it true. "Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. " ALL. So, wrong again. It's at the same time. I'm betting it's as I said. It'll be the world against believers. Satan against God. The context is always the same.
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    End Time Events, Part 1

    Dizzying. If it's not understood does it exist? What changed? How did they not know before but do now? The simple answer is wrath is now upon them, and was not previously. What!? "... wrath is come..." Rev 6:17. "...is come...", erchomai, to come, present or future. I'd say scripture is very specific. Um, yes! in every case. Only in the sad attempt to manufacture facts to fit nonsensical doctrine does it mean something else. Especially so here. But there is a logical problem in your thinking. How is it wrath begins at the first seal when you say wrath is only the second half of the week? Two wraths? Three? I didn't say this. Seals open and trumps sound till the conjunction of the 6th seal and the 7th trump. At the opening of the 6th seal wrath begins, not before.
  9. I always suspect any study or book or whatever that refers to 'Antichrist'. Jesus never calls this person 'Antichrist', he's the 'beast'. If the study can't get that right what else is wrong?
  10. Diaste

    End Time Events, Part 1

    Well not all the seals to be sure, but some. You see, the martyrs are seen at the fifth seal, yes? So we must be well past the first half of the week and into GT at this point. GT is not over as the martyrs are told they have to wait till the fulfillment of the number. This means the 'beginning of sorrows' must have already happened. Matt 24 is THE outline for the end of the age. Even though it's not mentioned the beast has risen. But I think the parallel exists between the first seal and this; "For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many." The rider of the 1st seal may indeed represent the beast, but it could also be false christs, or both. One can deny this but the denial is hard to maintain in the face of the the other parallels: "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars," - Red Horse and Rider "There will be famines" - Black Horse and Rider "Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, " - Pale Horse and Rider Again there is chance for denial here and I may not be correct about the parallel between the Pale Horse and Matt 24:9-10. A better parallel may be, "Then they will deliver you over to be persecuted and killed, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:" The 5th seal matches what Jesus said in Matt 24:9 So, yes, it's quite clear the seals parallel the words of Jesus in Matt 24, and the beginning of sorrows is the same as at least the first three seals and probably the first four.
  11. Diaste

    End Time Events, Part 1

    Agree. A bit of circumstantial evidence that supports the Islamic origin of the beast. Agree. But this does not mean the beast has no regard for any god. It only means the beast does not respect the God of his FATHERS. To wit; "And in their place, he will honor a god of fortresses—a god his fathers did not know—with gold, silver, precious stones, and riches. He will attack the strongest fortresses with the help of a foreign god" Not an atheist. The beast will honor a god, just not the God of his Fathers. This is interesting, this 'God of his Fathers' clause. It could be that this refers to eschewing the acknowledgement of the gods of the peoples north of the Mediterranean, but I think not. Dan 11 paints the picture of a series of kings from the Mideast, from Asia Minor and south to Egypt, and the king in the East (This is true as we know Antiochus is descended from Seleucus I). Dan 11 is speaking to the Arab people and then referring to the God of their fathers, which is El Shaddai. It's known that both Arabs and Jews refer to themselves through the male ancestors and refer to these male ancestors as "fathers" all the back to Abraham, whose God is the Most High. Another bit of circumstantial evidence for the Islamic origin of the beast.
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    End Time Events, Part 1

    No. It's probable the two witnesses appear in the first half of the week when the beast rises. The seals cannot be the wrath of God and the Lamb. If all the seals were the wrath of God, then God would have killed His own martyrs. This bit of deduction alone should negate any notion of the seals as wrath. But in case that isn't enough... And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal... For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Wrath only begins at the 6th seal and any previous seal cannot be regarded as God's wrath or the wrath of the Lamb. Wrath of Satan, sure, but clearly not the wrath of God.
  13. Diaste

    End Time Events, Part 1

    No, that's linear thinking. Trumpets are sounding during the opening of the seals. The wrath of God begins at the 6th seal and we see the martyrs under the altar before this at the 5th seal, meaning GT is occurring and the martyrs must wait for vengeance till after the rest die in the same manner. We are told the gathering (one and only gathering) occurs at the 'last trump'. There is only one 'last trump' associated with the end of the age and it's the 7th of 7 recorded by John in Revelation. The 7th trump has an aspect that is the same as the 6th seal, "The nations were enraged, and Your wrath has come." - 7th trump "For the great day of Their wrath has come," - 6th seal This shows the wrath of God comes at both the 6th seal and the 7th trump, meaning all the trumps sound during the opening of the first 6 seals, with the 7th trump sounding in conjunction with these events of the 6th seal, "And when I saw the Lamb open the sixth seal, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars of the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind. 14 The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place." Which is the same set of events we see here, ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ 30 At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory 31 And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. Further, it appears that all 7 vials of wrath are poured out between the opening of the 6th and 7th seals. "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake." - 7th seal "and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake" - 7th vial So the trumps and vials are all contained within the seals. And while the three groups occur in order, they are not consecutive to each other and manifest in a sort of concurrent manner of succession.
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    3-1/2 year trib/ NOT 7

    So there are three 'first' resurrections? Or three phases of the first resurrection? Got scripture? Better hope not. I don't want the wrath of my Father to last one day, I want it turned away as it's exceeding terrible. 40 days of wrath once destroyed the entire earth.
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