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Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Right, but i found it interesting that the eating blood is forbidden before the law - Genesis 9:4 ; and under the law - Levi. 17:10 ; and even now after the law = .... Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. Also 15:29 and 21:25 forbid eating blood. After i learned this, i keep a close eye on who is cooking!

Authority of Scripture. Reformed theology teaches that the Bible is the inspired and authoritative Word of God, sufficient in all matters of faith and practice. You don't believe that. ^ You are not is a position to judge or represent what I believe. For the record, I absolutely believe that, in fact, I am betting my eternity on that premise. In what way do you think I do not believe that? Below is part of what you said during our chat in the private messaging. You said quote : "There is only one word of God, and we do not posess it in the form of ink on paper, all we have is imperfect, incomplete simulations of it, that we call manuscripts, and Bible translations. Versions are not all equal, but none is uniquely the word of God and without error. People are free to use the KJV, it has served a great purpose for 400 years, but it was not the first, nor is it the last, good version of the Bible. The best Bible version, is the one you will actually read and take to heart." End quote Then i asked you - how can someone take the Bible to heart if it's not the word of God?

Authority of Scripture. Reformed theology teaches that the Bible is the inspired and authoritative Word of God, sufficient in all matters of faith and practice. You don't believe that. ^

Calvinism is heresy. His private interpretations are heresy. He believed in replacement theology - which is a heresy.

InSeasonOut I had a read. The writer of that article is full of errors in my opinion. It wasn't the fruit that was evil, because every fruit got made was good. It was disobeying God that was evil. If God had told us what fruit it was, then men would of for sure created a religion banning this fruit! Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Wow, thats okay you disagreed.. but WHERE does it say the fruit was evil? - It's not in there! Your article is filled with errors! lol

Here is a solid topical study by Peter Ruckman http://www.kjv1611.org.uk/Forbidden fruit.htm

Properly? According to who? What is your authority? reading in English and reading in Greek... authority is my own common sense. Which Greek manuscript(s) ? And I don't believe you can be your own authority - Authority needs to be outside yourself unless your a dictator... We need our authority to be the word of God - by definition - the word of God is perfect, inerrant etc. And in english it is the KJB. Bible Believers change their view to fit the Bible, not change the Bible to fit a fallible "common sense"; which anyone can make up as they go... Which "proper" translation are you comparing the improper translation to? Any improper translation is only in your mind. Or a "bible scholar" ; man is your authority. No one can fully and absolutely understand 100% of the word of God. Your better saying "I don't know" then saying God failed to give us his word in our language in one volume. Lost sinners are going to be judged by the Book; they have no excuse of saying they didn't learn Greek or saying the Bible is filled with errors.

Properly? According to who? What is your authority?

I think you need to read the second part of this post about 4 times.... Ok now what? Well if he quotes several verses that perfect shows the Trinity, don't you think that he is making that point..... or are you questioning him being s total idiot..... LoL Oh ok, I was just saying that the Branhamites will use those same verses to Disprove the trinity, and have some cultic interpretation. They somehow don't see it... Then they will try again and i say no that describes the trinity... then they give an analogy to disprove the trinity and then i say wow you perfectly described the trinity!

Joe, don't misunderstand... as the video said = the new versions are only for money! Zondervan is owned by Rupert murdoch, who owns harper collins and publishes the satanic bible. Other publishers don't even believe in a inerrant inspired bible. It's just a translation - not even James White believes their is an error free Bible. Thats the main reason for the footnotes, no one knows what is should say. If anyone thinks the NIV or NASB is error free, then they should know not one Bible scholar agrees. FACT. I'm not condemning anyone, just exposing their lies and hypocrisy. They are not Bible believers they are bible doubters and corrupt God's word. It all started with the Gnostics in Alexandria Egypt in the 1st century and Satan is still corrupting the Bible and using false brethren to do it. ALL new versions come from the corrupt Westcott and Hort text. They weren't even Christians. The NU - or Nestle aland greek text was made under supervision of the Vatican. The modern versions are very "inter-denominational". Inside the cover of the Nestles text you see the name Carlo M. Martini. Not only that but the new versions are "gender inclusive" - look in any new bible. You will most likely see in the intro pages a gender policy. Meaning there is no manuscript support for it. They are ashamed of the word of God and change words "he, his him" etc to include females. The KJV is not excluding them in those passages referring in a general sense to humanity or mankind; as woman was taken from man (Genesis 2:22) there are over 200 english translations all produced for money. Christianity is mocked because of this and is a stumbling block to a lot of Muslims etc.. Try witnessing to one and they will most likely themselves bring up the fact Catholics gave us the Bible and that God is not the author of confusion, and we have contradicting bibles. It all comes down to final authority. Is man your authority? yourself? or the word of God? is it inerrant / infallible ? and Where/what is it? Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Excellent point Joe, - all those versions you quoted change John 3:16- only the KJV contains the word "begotten" Romans 8:15 - For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. - 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 1 John 3:2 - Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Jesus was not created, he was begotten. (Colossions 1:12-18) - I was created but i was not born as a son of God. I was born again as a son of God. So the new versions are in error.

Before, you read this I must be clear im not an "Arminianist" or part of any denomination. Arminianism has many problems as well but Calvinism is a heresy that often needs correcting. And I'll be referring to 5 point Calvinism or TULIP - but i reject all forms of it. If you follow Christ you are a Christian and should identify yourself as such. When i hear someone identify themselves as a Calvinist, Arminian etc then i tend to think that person follows a man 1 Corinth. 3:4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? So here is what I've come to learn about Calvinism. They don't really believe in "Total depravity" - they believe in "Total inability" The Lord Jesus Christ said And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. John 12:32 (Calvinists change scripture to "..all the elect...") Long story short - there is power is the gospel, in the name of Jesus Christ. There is evidence for the "existence of God" and many great apologists. But the problem with that is if a man can convince you with great intellect then another man can come along and unconvince you with his intellect. (evidence is great for humble seekers) As Christians we are suppose to preach the gospel - using the law - 10 commandments to prick their conscience.- Intellectual arguments go nowhere with prideful people. 1 Peter 5:5 "...God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble." (Preach the Law to the proud - and grace to the humble) So the gospel cuts through the intellect to reach the conscience. Using the law, acknowledging sin, judgement and hell, - the proud will often admit they are not good people and deserve hell when judged by the 10 commandments. "Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness..." And whether they believe it or not they are without excuse (Romans 1:20). Thats another subject...the point is when their conscience bears witnesses and they hear the gospel God will draw all men unto Christ. Forget intellect - God has made foolish the wisdom of this world. When God draws you near to him, and one truly becomes born again, there is no unconvincing. Back to the Calvinist's belief in Total depravity - or Total inability - They say i could preach the gospel to a crowd of a million people - all of which are the "non-elect" - Not one of them can get saved. Calvinists believe in a powerless gospel - and a heartless "god" - that will not draw sinners to repentance when Christ is preached. They just burn in hell. = Heresy Total Depravity - Calvinists believe the unsaved man is dead in trespasses and sins to the extent that it affects his will; so that, he cannot will to be saved (Ephesians 2:1-4). ! Man’s nature is depraved (Ps. 39:5-6; Jer. 17:9; Luke 11:13; Rom. 7:24; Gal. 1:4), but he is still held responsible for his actions (Isa. 45:19; Matt. 12:36-37; Luke 17:1). Israel is held accountable for the crucifixion (Acts 2:22-23; 4:10; 7:52) and Gentiles are held accountable (Rom. 2:6-11). ! Man was created with a freewill to accept or reject God’s will (Exo. 35:5, 21, 29; Ezra 7:13-16; Rev. 22:17). ! God commands a man to receive Christ (1 John 3:23). ! The new birth is conditioned upon receiving Jesus Christ by faith (John 1:12-13). Unconditional Election - Calvinists believe a person is chosen by God in eternity past and was put into Christ unconditionally based upon God’s sovereign grace (Ephesians 1:4-5). ! Election is conditioned upon the foreknowledge of God (1 Peter 1:2). ! The emphasis in the choosing of Ephesians 1:4-5 is Christ, not man. Man was not here before the foundation of the world. Christ should receive the preeminent place, not man. God chose before the foundation of the world that salvation was to be in Christ Jesus (2 Timothy 1:9-10). ! Election is not directed at salvation, but service. One is elected to serve a purpose (Isaiah 42:1; 45:4; 65:9; 1 Peter 2:6; 2 Peter 1:10). A citizen by birth can be elected to public service by the vote of the people. ! Election is always in a precise or temporary setting; in that, a person is put into Christ at the moment of receiving Christ (John 1:12-13; 1 Cor. 12:13). Once in Christ then the benefits of eternity are given to a finite being who had a beginning, but will have no end. ! According to Calvinism, some are elected to hell. If this is so, a man is obeying God’s will by rejecting a command of accepting Christ (Acts 17:30-31; 1 John 3:23). ! According to Calvinism, some innocent babies are elected to hell, which is directly contrary to the teaching of Romans 9:11 that every innocent child is elected in regards to the grace of God (Deut. 1:39; Rom. 2:6-16; 4:15; 5:13). When a child reaches the knowledge of good and evil (Gen. 3:5-6), he or she is held accountable. ! If a man is elected to salvation IN Christ before the foundation of the world, that man fell out when Adam sinned (before salvation a man is IN Adam -- Romans 5:14-21; 1 Cor. 15:21-22); therefore, on this point an Arminian and a Calvinist agrees. If Calvinism is right, at salvation a man is put back into Christ. What could cause him to fall out of Christ again? See any Arminian and he’ll expound all he knows within thirty seconds with time to spare. ! Before salvation, a man is not recognized by God (Matt. 7:21-23) because he is under God’s wrath (John 3:36 Eph. 2:11-14). A man is born - he must be born again, of the Spirit. You can not be given the second man if you are not in the first (1Cor, 15:47-49) Limited Atonement - Calvinists believe Jesus Christ died only for the elect because they are the only ones who can repent (John 10:11) ! Unlimited atonement is Scriptural (John 3:16-21, 36; 1 Tim. 2:3-6; Heb. 10:10, 29; 2 Peter 2:1; 3:9). Limited atonement is a myth. ! Tyre and Sidon would have repented if given the chance (Matt. 11:20-24). Irresistible Grace - Calvinists believes the Holy Ghost draws a man to Christ and overshadows the elect to the extent that he cannot resist God’s sovereign grace to salvation (Acts 13:48). ! The Spirit of God draws a man to Christ, but the man’s part is acceptance of the Gospel through his freewill (Rom. 10:13-14; 1 Cor. 4:15; 9:22; 1 Tim. 1:15). ! The ones ordained to eternal life are Gentiles who follow their conscience in doing right, such as Cornelius. These Gentiles receive the opportunity to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ (Acts 10:1-11:18; Romans 2:1-16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4). ! Eleazor, a type of the Holy Ghost, asked Rebekkah, a type a Christian (Gen. 24:58). ! God’s grace can be resisted as there are sins against the Holy Ghost (Acts 5:3; 7:51; Eph. 4:30; 1 Thess. 5:19). Perseverance of the Saints - Calvinists waffle between preservation and perseverance on this petal of the flower. Calvinists say that the saints will persevere in the faith; and if they do not persevere, they are not of the elect. ! Perseverance and eternal security (once saved, always saved) are not the same. Eternal security is a truth for the NT saint in the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 1:8-9; Ephesians 1:12-14; 4:30). ! Predestination is one’s destination beforehand. A NT saint is predestinated to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ (Rom. 8:29-20; Eph. 1:4-5, 11). ! Perseverance of the saint is another similarity with the Arminians. Summary : Since a man can do nothing to be saved or obtain salvation because he is totally depraved (incapable), God through irresistible grace will unconditionally elect the chosen ones because of limited atonement. Hyper-Calvinists do not win souls because God will save those He chooses no matter what. Calvinists usually are self-conceited because God specially chose them and not the heathen Arminians INSANITY - Teaching Calvinism to enlighten a non-Calvinist is absurd because his or her freewill to choose is not valid. A Calvinist is born a Calvinist against his will. I'm not a Calvinist because God predestinated me before the foundation of the world to not be a Calvinist. I can’t help it! I'm not an Arminian because I reject it of my own freewill. I can't help that! 2 Thessalonians 3:1-5 (KJV)

I think you need to read the second part of this post about 4 times.... Ok now what?

Right, the Branhamites are dangerous... The guy leads people to William branham and not Jesus Christ. (who they think was created), Every time he tried to describe that God is one, I'd say say yeah thats the trinity/ Godhead. Same with this topic, I'm not sure if the 1st post is advocating the trinity or denying it... He just quotes the first few verses of John and Genesis, which perfectly show the Godhead or a "trinity" - the "tri-unity" of God.