Sugarbaker

Hmm...I guess no good deed goes unpunished. As I said this post was about you not about me. There’s a lot more to the story that I chose not to share. I posted this to support you, a sister in Christ and did not to expect a put down from you in return. Yes, I have respect for myself, yes I have been to Christian counseling, yes I have read the Bible I am very aware of the biblical standards for marriage. I made no assumptions of you, yet you choose to make them of me. And no, I do not consider myself a baby incubator.

No situation last forever. The day will come that she will be out of your lives.but the way that you handled this situation now will have long lasting ramifications for you and for your marriage. I had the mother-in-law from hell. Alcoholic, gambler, enabler. My husband and I had been dating for a year when his father died. She had it in her head that it was my husband‘s job to take care of her and resented me for being a threat her plan. He had asked me to marry him three months after we met but then it was another four years before we finally did get married and we had broken up several times. We never lived with her but because of a family business she was involved in our lives each and every day. I always took a backseat her wants and needs. Literally. I can’t tell you how many family vacations she invited herself along on and I would find myself sitting in the third row seat of our van while she sat in front with my husband. Complaining resulted in me being left at home with the kids while the two of them took off together She had two adult grandsons that she was quite enamored with and spoiled and pampered them to the point . that they are now very dysfunctional adults, all the while ignoring our three daughters. I chose to detach from her. I was always civil when I did see her, as was she. but there was no love lost. My husband meanwhile was at her beck and call. He was angry with me for not being more involved with her. My parents were always very kind and gracious to him but our but they are declining he refuses to help in anyway and rarely sees him “I’m giving you a taste of your own medicine, “ he often says to me. I could write a book about this but I won’t because this post is about you, not me. I told myself that when she died I would have my husband back but as it turns out irreparable harm was done to our relationship. What I will say to you is don’t put your husband in a situation where he hast to choose sides. Remember that “she was here first.” Your husband is not the person that you should be venting to about. Don’t complain and don’t explain. Find someone else to confide in. Above all don’t beat yourself up over this. Just resolve in the future to be the kindest, most loving mother-in-law that you can be to your children’s spouses.

If you are a true believer than you have the promise that to be absent from the body is present with the Lord. When you die your spirit goes to be with him. Those who are not believers are not left on this earth to suffer. Their torment is in hell.

The act of suicide does not send you to hell—Refusing to except Jesus as your Savior does. Would a true Christian commit suicide? I know of two recent cases where a young man took his own life. Both were from Christian homes, had accepted Jesus as Savior at an early age. Both attended church, were active in their youth groups. Both had loving parents (still married) and siblings, were popular in school, athletic. Both were high achievers with promising futures. So what went wrong? In one case, mental illness manifested itself and did not respond to therapy or medication, and in the other, a series of head injuries from sports accidents resulted in irreversible brain damage. In both cases, death was a result of a willful act of a troubled mind that God chose not to deliver them from. Those left behind may never fully understand the reasons why, at least not on this earth. Isaiah 42:3 “ A bruised reed he will not break off, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out. In faithfulness he will bring about justice. “ Jesus deals tenderly with a weak and broken spirit, not in violence. Does this imply that every suicide gets a free pass? Absolutely not. Those who are lost in sin prior to their untimely death will continue to remain lost. But for a believer has fallen into despair and depression, and for whom God has chosen not to give the victory, He will show mercy.

Not how but why! It is a paegan cult! Do you really think it is ok to pray to Mary? Do you need a priest to forgive your sins and not Jesus? Do you want to be part of a “church” that believes Communion actually involves eating the flesh and blood of Jesus? I implore you to rethink this idea.

Wow, another great video. Fun, quick, easy and right on point with a lot of great info. These would be perfect for my young adult children with short attention spans! Lol. I think these videos are kinda like potato chips...can’t stop at one!

Hey! Thanks for sharing this! Entertaining and informative. I have not seen any of this guy’s videos before but will check out more. We were just discussing this after hearing a sermon on this very topic. thanks again!

Wow Michael, you just hit in on the head, a joyless drudge and a conflict of personalities. I have prayed for the Lord to give me a genuine love for each and everyone of these women, I know that these are some of the ladies that I’m going to be spending eternity with; sad that we can’t seem to connect here on this earth.

Unfortunately, many churches are providing entertainment rather than spiritual development. When I was a child I remember going to vacation Bible school. The highlight of the week writing part of our memory verse in macaroni letters glued to a popsicle stick to make a wall hanging. We had homemade cookies and Kool-Aid for snack. When my daughters went years ago there was a “Price is Right” theme complete with a roulette wheel, microphone, special lights and MC dressed in a tuxedo. The final day included a hotdog and hamburger barbecue for over 300 kids plus the parents. The fire department showed up in one of the giant trucks and then sprayed water while the kids ran through it. It was quite a production. The youth group was even more extreme. The interior of the building was completely covered in black and white tiles—- floors walls and ceilings. There was loud music, dark rooms and neon lights. I feel like I was going into a bar. Sermons are not much better; seems like about five minutes worth of scripture and actual teaching and the rest is personal stories on an unrelated topic. That being said I do think a zombie night is very inappropriate for a church. And I’m not sure that Dr. Suess is a great role model either considering that his first wife (whom he left for another woman) later committed suicide. Ha ha when I was in high school for church youth group had an overnight lock down—co-ed. I was walking out the door with some record albums to play and my mom went through them and read the titles of each song. She made me leave Barry Manilow at home because one of the songs was “why don’t we live together.” Poor Barry didn’t get to go to the church lock down but Mick Jagger made it. Really don’t know what that has to do with anything but it just came to mind, thought that I’d throw it in. LonerAndy, You made mention of the fact that the kids who grew up in church no longer go there. I don’t think that is so uncommon or dependent on having a hip youth group. We have that promise “train up a child in the way that he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. “ That doesn’t guarantee that they will be in church during their college or young adult years, but that they WILL come back. I realize that there is a lot of pressure to be relevant and to make church engaging and enticing, but we need to remember why we are really there. I remember as a teenager being incredibly bored during sermons in fact I’m not gonna lie there’s days that my mind wanders. A very wise woman once told me “even though you’re bored in church you were still giving that hour to God. “

Thank you everyone for your validation. I actually did bring this up today in a prayer group. There are a number of us that are feeling the same way. I drove by a small church today that had a prophecy series advertisied on their sign and started thinking maybe this might be a place for me to go to get connected...who knows? This is a very difficult decision, as I stated I’ve been with this group for years. When the original leader was dying, I was one of the few that was allowed into her home to be a companion and a caretaker for her so I do have a lot of emotional ties to this group but ...perhaps it is time to try something different, thank you again

When I subscribed to Dish network this channel was available, I used to watch him quite often and I would just turn the TV on and leave it while I was doing my housework for the day. It was white noise but better than Jerry Springer! The longer I listened the more I found to disagree with but I still felt that there was a lot of good teaching. I enjoyed the chapter by chapter verse by verse content. That is not something that you can find too many places these days. Now that I have switched cable providers Shepherd’s Chapel is no longer an option to me. Is it something I have sought out in other venues like You Tube? No. Do I think the man is a false teacher. No. A few days ago I was asked to fill-in at work with a 95-year-old client in his home. When I walked in the door he was watching Shepherds Chapel on he asked me if I was offended by that and said he would turn it off. Of course I told him no. I listened with him and heard nothing objectionable. Am I going to tell a 95-year-old devout Christian band that a minister that he enjoys is a false teacher? Absolutely not. This gentleman even said to me “well I don’t agree with everything he says but he’s pretty good. “ I think it’s virtually impossible to find a teacher will tell you 100% everything that you will agree with. I also think that there is no one who is absolutely correct on every point of doctrine and theology. For my money however the closest is Jack Abeelen at Morningstar Chapel. I know Arnold Murray has passed and I believe that I will see him one day in heaven. And when I do the fact that he preached that Eve and Satan had children together will be irrelevant. The five pillars of faith we all have in common is that there is one God, His son Jesus was born of a virgin. Jesus died for our sins. He rose and is coming again.

I agree with Jayne. I work with the elderly and have seen firsthand what she spoke of. Miraculous things happen during church services in a memory care unit. It’s never too late.

I think the fact that you are posting this is your answer. If you have doubts, then separate.

I have been involved in a women’s Bible study for 14 years. I have found this group to be a great source of support for me and the Bible study has been very enlightening . I’ve always look forward to Monday mornings when we met. A few years ago I had to take a year off as I was going back to school. When I came back many of the older members have died or moved away and there was relatively new group. The leader had also died. She had been replaced by her own daughter who is very nice lady, but was a a poor facilitator and not as knowledgeable about the Word as her mother was. I have begun to feel less and less connected to this group and somewhat of an outsider. Our leader seems to favor the new remembers and often lavishes praise on the answers they give during the discussion whereas someone who is established like myself is often cut off midsentence were told that their answer is not what they were looking for. There are three or four women who tend to monopolize the discussion and get off topic. It becomes very tedious to me to listen to personal stories and complaints rather than discuss the lesson that we have prepared for. The group begins with prayer requests and I find it often very tedious to listen to long detailed discussions of various problems which to me seem quite trivial.. One morning I asked for prayer for a family member who was suicidal. No one in the group offered any comment or response., Another woman jumped in and spent over 15 minutes talking about her sons need for an improved baseball score, The group was quick to support her offering many questions and suggestions. After the study one day I waited to talk to the leader rivately about my concerns. One of the newer members was also lingering simply would not leave. I thought she might get the hint but she just wouldn’t go. I told her that I would like to talk to our leader privately but she ignored me and poured herself a cup of coffee. I finally gave up and left. (This lady I might add, brings her crocheting to the Bible study. She chooses to sit on the floor and on a number of occasions she has sat directly in front of me and I am unable to move for the hour and a half that we have our discussion.) I know I sound like I am being very critical of my sisters in Christ but honestly the joy of going to this group is gone for me. Do I have legitimate complaints or I am I needing to examine my own motives and heart?

Ummm...yeah...get counseling, but not with two men! Female, please! An older one. Yesterday, I was at a pot luck at Bible study chatting with a lady in her eighties. She admitted to me that she had " an addiction to sex with my husband.!" It kinda derailed me, but really, they have been there. Thank you for being open about this. This is clearly not a men's only issue. I don't believe for a second that all the women in porn are being forced or given drugs. They are getting paid well and they like it! And who doesn't like it? I just don't believe in extremes in anything. "Moderation in all things." Once you have desensitized your self from all the filth of porn, "normal" will be exciting again. I think that whatever two people want to do together is acceptable in God's eyes. But there are limits, and I have no doubt you know what they are. keep praying! You will overcome this and find joy in your husband again. We are promised " anything better than we can ask for or imagine." That applies to every aspect of our lives.