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As we are in the New Covenant which is paramount to understand that the Lord of the New Covenant has also died for the forgiveness of our sins. And he has put into place New principles. Jesus knows but his moto is love and forbearance and he will never do to his people what they did to him. I know many things and he knows more things about them but He knows what he is doing. This is why I stopped saying anything specific about them that it can be very offensive to them. He knows how to approach every matter. They are his children and no one has the right from Jesus Christ to speak about them in away thinking that they do a service to the Lord. In Love and in acceptance because they also have their sins forgiven in Jesus Christ. And the love of Jesus Christ is greater than their confusion.

Paul was like Jesus. He did not have a house which is he did not stay in the same place as he had to move from place to place and being threatened and often beaten. Paul did not have a wife and children just like Jesus. He did not have a bank account and he lived on charity. How else he was like Jesus? He was arrested and brought before the Roman authorities and he died for the cause of the Gospel just like Jesus and he defer from Jesus there after. He did not follow Jesus at the time of his death to go to the same place where Jesus went at the time of his death on the Cross, when Jesus imediatly descended to the place of the dead. No one can follow Jesus in that, to descend in the place of the dead at the time of his death weather as a believer and not even as an unbeliever. But Paul as a believer in Jesus Christ he had to follow Jesus to where Jesus was at the time of Paul's death. And that place was Heaven and to Jesus and the Heavenly Father. Because Jesus was risen from the dead and was ascended to Heaven to the Heavenly Father. Jesus was raised from the dead and was in his body. But not for Paul who went to Jesus Christ and the Heavenly Father while his body was seen corruption and decay. From decay to decay till there is nothing to decay anymore. Certainly Paul never mourn for the lost of his earthly body. He lost his earthly body but he gain a Heavenly body. A body that does not decay.

When they preach the word and the Christian life they are very well educated. Extremely good in psychology and they are for Jesus Christ. But the church has a strong hold on the people with their rituals and their rituals about the dead quite similar to Catholic church. You need the church, the Priesthood and their prayers for the dead. A lot of rituals about the dead and you need the church and the Priests. They keep the people away from Jesus Christ. You need the Priests to Sanctified the people. Like many other things from the Old Testament.

Not exactly; People defend what they have. Like all of us. There are various groups in that community and some of them aknowledging their beliefs they gather in their own Christian gathering and their own churches which you cannot judge. Because we are to encourage and not to forbid anyone to acknowlege what they believe. Even to acknowledge their faith in Jesus Christ.

Greetings @WordSword There is a few issues for discussion in your post and there is one in your first paragraph. When you said "if we were not born again we will still be in our sin". That is not a complete statement because it does not say who said that and to whom it was told and the most important how could that be. That what the one who hears that statement expects to hear. If you please fill in the blanks as to know what you were thinking about how someone is not in his sin. *When Jesus said to the Jews at the time when the Sinai Covenant was still in effect and their sins were forgiven by the blood of the lamb of the Atonement and Jesus said that knowing that he will soon die on the Cross for the forgiveness of the sins of both Jews and Gentiles and some of the Jews will not believe in him and Jesus said to them in John 8: that if you do not believe in me you will die in your sins, and from the Gospel of John 16:8-9 NIV 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;

@PATrobas One example taking God's name in vain it is when someone says: that God will punish you and we have heard that many times from our parents when we were children.

Greetings PATrobas The 3rd commandment it was not given to them from Jesus Christ. And because Jesus lived and spoke to people to those people who were under the Sinai Covenant and he said many things to them before his death, before the New Covenant and some of them were in reference to the New covenant and some were for them only who were under the Sinai Covenant. The person who blasphem against God was according to the Law cut off from the community of the people and God for the rest of his life. No repentance to reconciliation was available as it was one of the unforgiving sins under the Sinai Covenant. The Jews to be safe they never say or write the name of God and they refer to him as Adonai or Lord. This is what Jesus said: every one who profanes the Son of Man or after his resurrection Jesus Christ will be forgiven and the same goes for God. And this why because Jesus said that he died for all sins but one sin the sin of not believing in Jesus Christ and God. It's simple when someone believes in God and has refused to believe in Jesus Christ he is also in the sin of unbelief. Because Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of our sins or his sins. About the Holy Spirit it is besides the point because the Holy Spirit did not died and that's impossible for the forgiveness of our sins the same as God.

This is about them and at time who were under the Sinai Covenant and the enforcer of their Covenant who was the Lord God who was also the punisher of the violators. And his moto was codified in the Sinai Covenant an eye against an eye and so on...and on. Nothing to do with the rest of the world at that time because God was not their God. And nothing to do with the Jews today and since 2000 years because we are in the New Covenant, the whole world including the Jews is under the authority of the New Covenant. They will all stand before the judgement seat of the Glorious Jesus Christ even everyone who Crusified him they will see Him in his Glory. Jesus ratified the New Covenant with his blood when he died on the Cross and was punished for our sins. And his moto is love and turn the other chic. And it is against the principle of his justice that two different people to be punished for the same offense. And Jesus was ahead of everyone and he the inosent was punished for our sins and he knows that and his hands are tight he can only bless his children and he never punishes anyone not even the unbeliever for his sins, as he is waiting for him to believe so he can forgive his sins. Which it is according to his proclamation that God made him the propretiation for the sins of the whole world, to anyone who believes in him at that time when anyone believes in him. This is why he sent his disciples to preach forgiveness of sins in his name. In his blood. In the New testament which was ratified with his blood at the time of his death on the Cross.

The Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus for blasphemy and they said to Jesus that we do not want to kill you for the good things you are doing when Jesus challenged them and asked them for which one of the good things I have done you plan to kill me. They said to him it is for what you say that God is your Father.

Thank you I was looking at Philippians 2:13 "God works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure" (Phl 2:13), (instead of our evil pleasures.) This is not part of the scripture and it us not polite to say "instead of evil pleasure". I do not accept this as an accurate statement and you are talking about believers. And even for unbelievers it is not an accurate statement because there unbelievers who are very kind people. Paul met some of them and he commented about them. And the people who seek to harm him were the people of the Sinai Covenant. The Gentiles offered him their hospitality. Paul would never say that, but now I understand that "God works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure" (Phl 2:13), ( instead of our evil pleasure) is not part of the scriptures. As believers we can have our own way of life but that does not mean that our life is full of evil pleasure. No definitely not. To work and take care of your children is not an evil pleasure. Even if you do not go to church. Jesus said that we can worship him in spirit and in truth. Not here or there and that too in the churches also no problem with that.

When the little Lamb is born in the Shepherd's sheep fold they only know how to follow their mother and have learn to recognize their mother's voice without any problem from amongst the cacophony of all the voices of the sheep in the fold. This is no strange because we understand this from our own experience even if we do not see our mother we can recognize her voice. A blind person who can not see can recognize the voice of the person it trust. Because the Lord let us trust the people around us who take care of us eventually will seek to make inroads in understanding his calling or his voice and he has to compete with many other voices which are trying to compete with him in that matter. So he has a difficult task to help us to know or to discern his voice or the way he is trying to let us know that it is him, and that takes time and it is not the same for everyone. And his method is not the same for everyone. We need to be patient in seeking that because it maybe happening but we cannot recognize it and in any case he can teach us to learn to recognize his voice and distinguish it from any other. He can teach and this is also by trial and error and even confusing someone else voice for his but he can teach us to tell the difference and also learn to recognize the enemies voice who some times he is aproching us as the bearer of good news as the Angel of lights, even coming along us pretending and making us think it is the Holy Spirit during a Bible study. And the Holy Spirit can supply us or deposit spiritual gifts in our heart to help us know the difference.

You are trying to say something but I don't like it because I do not see it clearly in scripture. If you make it simple perhaps I will see it in scripture and like it. Please make it digestible simple.

@Marathoner Greetings to you. This is a copy from my post perhaps you miss it. On the 7th line from the top of my post. . I agree with what you said it was about the Serpent and not the other kind of snakes and not even about the actual Serpent it self but the Spiritual power which was at work. and I continued to identify the identification of the spiritual power who fanifested it self as a Serpent. The High Priest in Egypt were worshiping that power and their emblem was the serpent and the Pharaoh skepter had the Serpent and their head gear had the Serpent. And their was emnity between the children of God and the children of the Serpent. And the dwel of the God's of Egypt with the God of Moses who were worshiping the power who manifested as the Serpent. That was about a spiritual power in the Garden. That's the point it was about the spiritual power and about the one who was behind the spiritual power who had fallen from Heaven and the saying that he will eat the dust of the earth or crawl on the earth it is about a spiritual message and it was said at the right time after the fall of man. God promised to provide a Savior for man and a Heavenly Inheritance for the earthly man. But for the one behind the Serpent who had fallen from Heaven the judgment was he will remain on earth forever that He will be kick out from the Heavenly and be on the earth forever. That the man who was earthly will inherit Heaven- we understand that this is only for the believers but He who was Heavenly will forever be on earth. No plan of redemption for him.

@Ray12614 New International Version They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. The apostle Paul WROTE Romans 1:25 to summarize what he wrote about in verses 18-24. In those verses He wrote what he had witnessed in his travels through the idolatrous Gentile Nations who were worshiping the creation instead of the Creator. For that reason and within that context the verse 25 it must be in the plural form as in the NIV and the 98% versions of the Bible. Reading the first word of verse 25 the reader imediatly should understand that it is about some people as it should be in plural form as the verses directly above are referring to the Idolatrous Gentile Nations. But without knowing what the verses above say but only that is referring to some people and then reading that they worship the created things instead of the Creator it should from General knowledge understood that the "They" the first word in verse 25 applies to people of the Gentile Nations and the Romans are one of them. It was a direct attack to the Idolatrous Romans but Paul wrote it in a suggestive form not to offensive, because Paul was in Rome but in any case he wrote this to Romans and perhaps to Roman believers or to believers of that time. Which was a true observation as Paul was an eye witness of the people worshiping the Created things instead of the Creator. That infamous last paragraph I referred to erroneously referred that the Romans 1:25 it makes reference to one and the first word "who" which can apply to a singular or plural and it can be made clear by what it follows. The last paragraph in that post erroneously said that Romans 1:25 is referring to a specific being who is not even a human being. And it said that that being was worshiping the created things than the Creator. Which is not the reason Paul WROTE this verse. Then it is true that Paul had the Gentile people in his reference and it was about them as he referred to them in the previous verses and his posting had nothing to do with that specific being who is not a human being. PAUL HAD THE GENTILE PEOPLE IN MIND. Paul did not referred to that specific being who is not a human being. Who is not in the context of Paul 's writing at all in that chapter from 18-24.

I appreciate your response and the study which is one sided and there is no input from a contrary source. When I pointed out that last paragraph in that post which has a bible reference to Romans 1:25 it was not for nothing but it was for a good reason and I pointed out that this is not what Paul WROTE. If you please give your reasons that indeed it is what Paul WROTE. And this is why I said that. The Romans verse in 1:25 begins with a word that refers to the context of the verses directly above from verse 18 to 24. It is about the Nations of the world and more specific those nations Paul got to know. The Idolaters who worship the created things and not the creator. In verse 25 Paul is referring about their idolatrous religious beliefs. New International Version NIV 1:25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. And this is why I took objection to "the last paragraph on the post in question because in that post Paul wrote about the people of the idolatrous nations about human beings. And in your posting the verse 25 it was referring to a specific being who is not a human. It was all about a specific being and in the singular form. Paul was referring to what he had witnessed by visiting the Gentile Nations who were worshiping the creation instead of the Creator. Paul is referring to the religious beliefs of the Gentiles and it was about the Gentiles about other humans.