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I understand completely what you're saying. I can quote numerous world leaders of the past that agree with what you say and even a few that refute it. BUT THESE ARE DAYS WHEN NOBODY SPEAKS OF PEACE. NOBODY. War is certain. Hell is coming on the back of sudden death and destruction. We'll feel the effects here at home in the form of shortages. By Christmas many will weep for lost sons and brothers and fathers with whom they thought they'd celebrate the holidays. I hate the situation mostly because our leaders, the whole self-serving insane mentally challenged partisan lot of them. They have caused many a good young man to die in the past and will cause the loss of many more.......very soon. Nobody works for peace. Nobody wants it. Washington, Bejing and Moscow and want war and more of it. We who are caught in the middle, including citizens of all those nations, DO NOT want war. I know. I've spoken to them all - face to face and man to man. The worst thing about war is that the ones who are asked to sacrifice the most for it are the ones who want it least. (You can quote ME on that one.) Many wars are indeed predictable. So is the one that's coming. I was told early October. Today is September 23rd. That means we've got barely three weeks of relative peace remaining to us. So....I went out and made an appointment with my dentist to get dental work done that I've been delaying. I'm buying a lot of extra consumable stuff...like a bidet, toilet paper, pet food, etc. I'm following my own advice. Please consider doing it too. Watch and learn, pilgrim. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

We shall see......... I'm not making my remarks here based upon anything seen or read on the internet, TV, tea leaves, spiritual revelation, magazine article or newspaper story. It's bad enough trying to pass along really really bad news without having to justify it with sources that might make the words seem even stranger than they are. Nevertheless the sources are quite certain and very trustworthy. The reader needs to prepare for extreme shortages of extended duration. Things like toilet paper, pet food, and repair parts may not be available for a long time. Christmas will be very strange this year. If you've been thinking of repairing an item, DO IT NOW. Don't put it off. If you've been thinking of buying something whether it be a refrigerator on the verge of failure, or a car or even a new pair of shoes, DO IT NOW. Don't put it off. (My old car suffered a major failure....so I bought a newer used car - the day before the UAW strike. I even bought a new pair of shoes I'd been thinking about getting.) If you want to buy Christmas gifts, don't wait - DO IT NOW. There may not be an opportunity to do it in ways we have done it before. Finally, I wish to repeat that it's my hope every single thing I've written won't happen by early October. I'd rather it didn't happen at all. I sincerely hope I'm very wrong about all of it. But I don't think so.....soberly considering what I've learned....I don't think so at all. In these past few days I'm more certain of what's coming than ever before. PLEASE consider what I've written. If you haven't bought a large stock of toilet paper, buy more. If you think you've got enough BUY MORE. If you use pet food, buy more. If you think you've got enough of that BUY MORE. This is not a joke. If you buy these things you'll probably use them anyway. Right? BUY MORE NOW. That's me, hollering from the choir loft....

For those who aren't familiar with the leading post, Judaism or Messianic Judaism, the discussion of a very complex tradition can be confusing. Without contradicting anything written by my brother above, I'd like to mention the REASON for modern Jewish interpretations of Rosh Hashanah. Shavua Tov Tikatevu When Herod's temple was destroyed in 70 AD the Jewish tradition of animal worship was forcibly abandoned. They no longer had a place to offer sacrifice for SIN. In God's design, animal sacrifices were no longer necessary. Therefore the temple wasn't necessary either. Heaven commanded its destruction. There are other reasons for the crushing attack upon Israel at that time, but for reasons of the present High Holy Day we restrict our discussion upon animal sacrifice. Y'shuah is our sacrifice for SIN. A few Christians understand this - not many I admit, but they do. A few Jews understand it too, but most do not. Those that DO understand this are called Messianic Jews. Those that don't continue in a sort of mental and spiritual frustration in a pointless effort to justify themselves before each other and God. They fail every time. Like the Dutch boy who stuck his finger in his leaking dike, modern Jews have tried unsuccessfully to patch the hole in justification. Instead of the blood of animal sacrifices, now impossible and instead of believing Y'shuah (Jesus) is the sacrifice God accepts they stuff good deeds in the hole made by SIN. We are not justified by good works. One ought to consider that something Adonai (God) hates might not be useful in gaining peace with Him because that which comes from rebellion and SIN cannot justify a sinner. Only that which God has established can gain peace with Him - THAT SOMETHING is Y'shuah (Jesus). All that's required is to believe in Him. but that seems to be too much for a lot of people - Jews and Christians combined...... It's all about good works and giving contribution$ to wayward religious establishment..... that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Proving that severe physical distress does not necessarily result in visions and dreams of the netherworld. I'm sure everyone is glad to learn of your recovery. Be well. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Words reached my ears in mid-August of this year, from sources foreign to the American press, that the People's Republic of China intends to invade the island nation of Taiwan "sometime in early October." This attack would be preceded by internal meetings and consultations on the part of aggressor nations. The predicted meetings have either happened or are in progress as I write. Some of these events have been carried by media news, but have been interpreted differently so as to fog the understanding of the American public. News coming out of China and North Korea suggest their military is ready for ... something other than a parade. The consequence to Americans will be extreme shortages. For example, toilet paper will become rare. Buy all you can now or even better buy a bidet. Those devices aren't common or held on store shelves in great numbers so its wise to buy now. I did. Buy extra laundry and dish soap. Buy extra pet food. Most of our pet food comes from China. While these items are manufactured in the US their initial scarcity may cause distress for the average family. If you have items that have been needing repair DO IT NOW. If you've been thinking of buying something you need or want, DO IT NOW. We may not be able to acquire these things easily in the months to come. Whether you accept this or not is irrelevant to me. I have followed my own advice; bought a bidet, performed needed repairs and even bought a newer used car. In some cases, repairs I didn't know I needed suddenly became immediately necessary. My wife and I have made and are making appointments for personal matters such as dentist visits and preventative doctor visits. The news I received was personally distressing and continues to be so. If hostilities commence between China and Taiwan in the east and Russia and Ukraine in the west our future will rapidly become very dark. Many young men will die on both sides. This is a thing I do not wish and I must make it very clear to you, dear reader, that I am very hopeful what I've heard NEVER comes to pass. Circumstances that have arisen since I first heard about it do seem to confirm the possibility of war - not just a few skirmishes. War abroad will mean shortages at home. Get ready. Buy stuff you'll use anyway, just stockpile it for now. Don't waste time or money buying stuff or doing things that won't be practical six months from now. Before during and after you do anything PRAY like you've never prayed before. Perhaps God will have mercy to avert war. Perhaps wisdom among men will blossom as a love of peace rather than love of war. Perhaps I'm wrong and what I've heard will not come to pass. I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. As a resident of Florida I'm well experienced with approaching monster storms and know the attitude. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Maybe we'll dodge a bullet and Christmas this year will be a kind one. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... PS My sources are PERSONAL SOURCES, not something I read on the internet and not some diabetic vision or dream received from eating too much sugar. My sources have ears within the Moscow KGB. As we all know, Moscow is as adroit at lying as Washington, DC. Maybe it's all wrong. I hope so. But it's there nonetheless. We will see, won't we?

Your story sounds a lot like scenes from the occult movie THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES. In this movie, a character suffers a brain problem. While in hospital she begins drawing pictures of occult figures, primarily the legendary Mothman of West Virginia & Ohio. Bear in mind that your brain and your mind were affected by your ailment. Whether or not you received a true vision of the spiritual realm is for you to decide and us to ponder. I myself received a similar revelation, but I was NOT afflicted by disease, accident, drugs, alcohol, diabetic dreams or anything that could even remotely be associated with mental disfunction. I was healthy and wide awake when it happened to me. What you saw, or think you saw, was a revelation of the second heaven - the second level of spiritual reality beyond earth but far short of heaven. The second heaven exists quite close to physical experience - the 1st heaven. The third heaven, the domicile of the Almighty, lies behind locked doors and gates. No one enters there except by special circumstances and permission. Thank you for sharing. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

God DID stop Hitler and Tojo from absorbing all mankind into their sphere of influence. God raised up nations that were more brutal than Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan combined. These nations absolutely destroyed every vestige of both nations. If Biblical answers are what you seek, then I suggest you read the Tanakh - the Old testament. The biggest example of divine intervention in the affairs of man can be found in the book of Exodus where an entire nation was liberated from subjugation by another. The ruling nation was completely destroyed in the process. There are many more such examples of divine intervention in the history of man. The pattern we see in the Bible is one of CHOICE. Man is given a choice - life or death, obey God or disobey. Man then acts according to his desire. Following the acts of man God enters the narrative and acts according to His desire, which generally wipes out the wickedness of man the way a man wipes a plate. God does not allow such things, He COMMANDS them. This is done so that all men can see their wickedness compared to God's ability to remove it. It is done so that all can see the hand of God when it moves. God's hand is moving even now as we read and write here. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

A little fuzzy on the GPS location thing I think. First, there is no hell. The afterlife concept is a pagan myth adopted by the church so as to gain and keep members via fear mongering. Your quote of Malachi refers to defeat of the enemy, not the location of his grave. The enemies of God simply die. They aren't victims of eternal torment because they are deleted - become extinct. (Ecclesiastes. 3:19 & Romans 6:23) The incineration of the 5 cities of the kingdom of Sodom is an example. Second, you are correct in stating there are three heavens, but they aren't located above one another...one is INSIDE the other. C.S. Lewis described this unusual configuration when he wrote that the spiritual inside of things is bigger than the outside. Consider the books of Exodus and Numbers. They describe the Wilderness Tabernacle which provides a sort of template for ALL THREE heavens. The entire layout is described in intimate detail. When Solomon erected his temple it followed the same basic design as did Herod's temple. Ezekiel's temple was never built and as a result there's considerable controversy as to whether it has physical meaning or whether its' interpretation is symbolic in some way. Opinions vary. Revelation's New Jerusalem is different than all the rest because it has no temple at all. (Rev. 21:22) None of the three heavens is a separate universe - strictly speaking. The idea of multiple universes is an expression of Einsteinian mathematical theory regarding PHYSICAL universes, not spiritual ones. It's an occult assertion as well as science fiction story line that there are separate universes or dimensions. This is not the assertion made by Holy Writ. Hope this helps. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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That is a statement of Roman Catholic doctrine. It is not consistent with Biblical context. Roman Catholic doctrine on the duration of a dead person in the grave is dependent upon prayers uttered on their behalf by the living. Such prayers are written on PRAYER CARDS which may be read by a priest, by the family of a departed person or by a single person. PRAYER CARDS are available for purcha$e from Catholic parishes. They are also available at a discounted rate on Amazon or eBay. Check it out. The Bible nowhere states that a human spirit lingers between worlds after death. This is entirely a money making proposition on the part of the RCC. Indeed the Bible teaches that no part of the human naturally survives physical death. When a human dies it dies the same as any cockroach or sick dog. Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. (Ecclesiastes 3:19) The single exception to the destiny of humans after death is the Second Birth. Those that have accepted the Grace of God and received it will survive death. Those that don't - will die. There is no such thing as eternal torment according to the Bible. The entire idea is a fear mongering device to elicit donation$. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

There is NO 'cure' for American racism. Somebody wrote that Jesus is an answer. Not true. In African-American churches the congregations generally DEMAND that 50% of sermons be devoted to race issues NOT Biblical ones. I've attended such services. Have YOU attended any, dear reader? They aren't exactly something that most white folks would be comfortable with experiencing. Tradition aside, Black communities eat race issues for breakfast lunch and dinner - not to mention church services. Everything has been put on the backs of white folks .... for years. But there's an old axiom now forgotten, "it takes two to tango." It takes two to have an argument and despite many whites' willingness to work toward resolution blacks generally REFUSE to do so. Nothing will get better until the black community and the white community are willing to work together.......and that does NOT imply that white folks shoulder all the burden and all the guilt, which they do to this day. (*) Are there only two ethnic groups in America? Why is all the noise about black issues? Consider that if you dare. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... PS MY ancestors came to America in the first decade of the 20th century. MY ancestors weren't even living in the western hemisphere when slavery was the law of the land. How is it that today the guilt of it is thrust upon US? It's an example of black racism that IS tolerated in America. Because of this the culture of racism in America will never be resolved.

Anyone who reads newspapers or consults internet based news sources like Reuters, BBC or CNN is aware that tensions have been mounting between the United States and China over the issue of Taiwan. The issue goes back to post WWII and the civil war in China between Chiang Kai-shek of the Nationalist Chinese and Mao Tse-tung of the Communist Chinese. American leaders, as usual, backed the right wing dictator Chiang Kai-shek and lost the entire game, meaning China. In full retreat from mounting military pressure by chairman Mao's Communist armies Chiang retreated to the island of Taiwan where he set up his government in absentia. There it sits to this day. Throughout the post WWII history of Chinese-Taiwanese relations the USA has stood in the gap between the two nations and claimed it would defend Taiwan's right to sovereignty (mostly because we had established lucrative trade relations with Taiwan). For most of those years, the preeminence of American Naval and Air power has served to restrain the Communist Chinese from seizing the island of Taiwan by force. All of that has changed. The United States is no longer the preeminent military power in the Western Pacific. Communist China has built a powerful military that its leaders believe can wrest control of Taiwan back into the hands of Bejing where it belongs (they say). Military leaders on both sides have studied tactics and strategy for combating one another. Both are ready for the shooting war to begin. Military estimates believe such a conflict would be a very bloody affair. Many do not believe the United States could successfully defend Taiwan from Chinese invasion. Virtually all agree it would be considerably costly in terms of ships and men of the US Navy, Air Force and Marines. Several months ago Xi Jin Ping, president of the People's Republic of China (Communist), stated that his military would be ready to invade Taiwan by the year 2027. That estimate has changed. I have recently been informed by an individual who is a citizen of the Russian Federation (*) that hostilities will commence "early in October". These hostilities will be preceded by negotiations between America and Communist China. These negotiations are scheduled to fail. Let me repeat that - scheduled to fail. Hostilities will commence shortly after the failure of negotiations. Perhaps my source isn't as reliable as the media press that's consumed with reviews and box office receipts from the new Barbie movie, but it is focused upon events of more importance to us as a nation - namely a very violent and costly war with China. Consider if you will the consequences to each of us if war does in fact begin in less than two months. Consider a new wave of shortages - longer lasting and much more severe than the previous one. Consideration of imminent war suggests one prepare for shortages. For instance, one of the items that first became apparent was the lack of toilet paper. I suggest the reader buy and install a BIDET on at least one of the toilets in the house. Additional paper products as well as cleaning products should be hoarded. We can get along quite well without ice cream, but we do need laundry soap. THINK SHORTAGES I'm sure the reader can come up with a number of other items that can be acquired while they are available. It's certainly wise to try. When you hear or read about negotiations with China being conducted concerning Taiwan it will already be too late. Prayerfully consider this matter. I submit this to you in the spirit of brotherly love and consideration. THIS IS NOT A JOKE. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (*) The individual has been ordered to leave the US for return to Russia on 8/19/23. I cannot divulge her name, but she is well placed in the Russian elite so as to be aware of these matters.

That's not altogether true .... about the opposer that is. Jesus said that He came to bring division - division between a man and his family, between those who followed Him and those who did not and between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of the World. The chief FALSE doctrine promoted these days is CONTENTMENT. Our Lord doesn't want contented sheep. He wants warriors who are willing to go out into the world and lock horns with its evil and with that which evil has twisted. Preachers are stupid enough to preach contentment AND THEN two weeks later wonder why their congregation is so apathetic. We are WAY BEYOND the Laodicean church these days. We are seeing a dead one. We are watching the vultures pick at its bones and we are watching the worldly minded as they laugh at the spectacle. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

There isn't a spiritual battle because Christians didn't come to fight. They just simply gave up. Lots of reasons why, but they simply did. Being over spiritual and quoting scripture as though it was a magic incantation won't solve the problem either. Never has. Never will. If good men refuse to stand up the evil will always win. So it has won this day. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

This is a common cop out - blaming satan for the cowardly laziness of Christians. Over spiritualizing is another cop out. IT US. WE have denied God, turned our back upon God's holy LAW and the gospel. We openly hate any mention of Bible Study. Instead we have embraced God with politically correct positions, the Gay Authority and deny all semblance of morality and the LAW of God. If we don't live by the LAW we don't live for God at all. Nobody gives a damn about God. Nobody cares about the Bible and nobody even remembers what the gospel is all about. Instead we get motivational garbage to read in our adult groups and relevance preached to us WHEN THE GOSPEL HAS ALWAYS BEEN IRRELEVANT TO THE WORLD. Instead we claim we aren't under the LAW and then promote or silently agree to the promotion of ever vile affection known to man. Is this grace or is this ANOTHER COP OUT? When adults refuse to study the Bible and when they refuse to teach their children the church fails - as it has been failing for the past sixty years. Some projections suggest certain denominations will be extinct by 2050. This isn't a work of satan. ITS OUR LAZINESS. There hasn't been a nationally held evangelical crusade meeting since Billy Graham died. I went to a bank the other day. The young teller there didn't know WHO Billy Graham was. Until and unless church types get on the ball and get about doing God's work the dregs of society will have it all. Will God judge them for doing what they do best or will God judge US for NOT DOING ANYTHING? that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

The problem with a 'good explanation' is that there isn't one. Sightings of strange objects in the sky are actually a great deal older than the current 'flap'. For purposes of discussion a 'flap' is a period of time when UFOs are observed in the sky in great numbers or consistent numbers or somewhat predictable numbers. Most of those who follow the phenomenon suggest flaps began after the explosion of the first atomic bombs. But it began a lot earlier than that! PARADIGM SHIFT Throughout the world the number of flaps began to increase dramatically in the mid to late 1900's. In America it was a period of post-civil war reconstruction and westward expansion. Globally it was a time of political and economic change. During those years the world experienced a paradigm shift in religion spirituality and politics. - Christendom began a slow decline which has accelerated to marked apostasy and backsliding. For instance, polls project the extinction of several large main line American protestant churches by the year 2050. - Zionism began in earnest with the result of the formation of the modern State of Israel by the mid-twentieth century. - Sightings of aerial phenomena began to increase dramatically until by the mid-20th century it was acknowledged seriously. Tracking political social and spiritual activity throughout recent history seems to indicate that aerial objects are connected somehow. Changes and events in human history are now accented and accompanied by objects that cannot be easily explained. Unfortunately these objects aren't communicating with those who only stand upon the earth and watch. What are they? What are they doing here? What do they want? Where are they from? For all our technical expertise and wizardry we seem to be somehow ignorant of these important answers. They are simple questions, but have no answers at all. We are left with endless speculation - some entertaining, some worthless and some mere evidence of the lunatic fringe among us. One thing remains true, however. Their appearance is driving us mad with curiosity. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

You will not acknowledge verification of any fact stated here. Providing more would simply be a waste of my time, like leading a horse to water it won't drink. I spent twenty-five years in the Episcopal church and can testify that they DO NOT accept as an axiom that one must be saved in Jesus' name. They officially deny it. I was officially told to recant my faith in Christ if I wanted to enter a leadership position there. THAT'S how bad it is. The average pew sitter was and is unaware of this sort of betrayal. Even when told they refuse to believe it - as you do now. Not only are they confused about the gender of the Almighty AS STATED IN SCRIPTURE, they deny the deity of Christ ALSO STATED IN SCRIPTURE. For them its just a financial franchise and was so stated to me by several high official of the church some years ago. "Why can't you understand it's just a job," they told me. So I guess I can't understand. It ISN'T just a job to me. I am acquainted with men who have testified as to the OFFICIAL position of the Lutheran and Presbyterian church that the Bible is NOT THE Word of God, but is only A work of common literature. I have been monitoring the decline of the Methodist church for nearly fifty years and can accurately and truthfully testify that because of the insinuation of the Gay Authority into the leadership of that church those members of UMC who still have a conscience are either leaving the UMC or exiting the church entirely. Denial of fact doesn't discredit them as true. I suspect the condition of the church is far worse than even I assume. Your misquote of Romans is typical of those who don't know the LAW nor understand the work of GRACE under LAW in the life of the believer. Both work together. The LAW has NOT been abolished (Matt 5:17) and GRACE doesn't stand alone without the LAW. NO ONE CAN BE SAVED APART FROM THE LAW. This is called the gospel and its been betrayed by leaders who don't teach it because they don't understand it themselves. When I reveal these circumstances many persons become severely agitated and deny everything - but with the absolute inability to provide contrary proofs otherwise (mostly because such proof doesn't exist). Parroting snippets of scripture as buzz words and religious slogans won't 'fix' anything either because those that quote them don't know what they mean anyway. This is why the church is considered to be a joke among the unchurched - Biblical illiteracy and theological ignorance reign supreme. If a survey is what you seek I suggest PEW or Gallup as a source. Then again I seriously doubt you will entertain the effort as you are convinced of your own incredulity and ignorance. If ignorance is bliss, then a lot of church types are very happy people. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Conservative religious types have just as much zeal as those who mark themselves with skin illustrations. You seem to be saying that conservative church types don't have a right to express their opinions. If so, then neither do you. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

The actual statistics as to who does or doesn't believe the man Jesus IS the Jewish messiah are available. Certainly a very high percentage of both Jews and church types contribute to the negative numbers. Jews generally DO look forward to the coming of Messiah, but that anticipation is qualified by the Orthodox Rabbinate which in turn defines who might or might not qualify as their candidate for the office. Since they illegally rejected Jesus, who DID qualify according to the LAW OF MOSES they don't have a legal leg to stand on. They reject Jesus anyway since their authority is accepted. (Oddly, Orthodox rabbinate's rejection of Jesus as messiah has been subject to a certain degree of erosion in recent years. Thinking Jews are beginning to realize Orthodox rejection of Jesus has something wrong with it - legally as well as logically.) More than half of denominational churches DO NOT accept the Bible as the Word of God. These are; Episcopal (and the British component called the Anglican church), Lutherans, Presbyterians and Methodists. The Roman Catholic church sits on the fence, as it were, where it's been sitting for two millennia. The United Methodist Church has in recent years adopted a procedure by which member churches can 'disassociate' themselves from the Methodist union. Unfortunately the procedure is long, expensive and rather complex. People who are disappointed with the UMC simply leave it and go elsewhere. As of this writing an archBishop of the Anglican church has stated the Lord's prayer is problematic because it refers to God as 'Father' and ought not be used in its present context. In other words, they are rather confused about the gender of God as stated in Holy Writ. They prefer to yield to politically correct views. We live in confusing times when definitions of familiar words and terms are thrust upon all those who desire above all else to maintain their dedication to Christ. I believe that discipleship REQUIRES study and implementation of Mosaic LAW in the lives of believers. Non-Jews aren't required to abide by certain aspects of the LAW, but are indeed well advised to consider its spiritual and moral aspects as it pertains to their personal journey. The FACT that God's LAW doesn't change and hasn't been abolished should provide solace and a firm foundation upon which to base one's religion. Political correctness is the shifting sand Jesus warned us about. that's me, hollering from the choir loft....

’Do not ... put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD." (Leviticus 19:28) TATTOOS are forbidden by God!!! They are even forbidden by Islam (Sahih Bukhari - hadith literature). Muslims don't care about that either. Does anybody care? Of course not. christians especially disregard Biblical standards of being separate from the world. All they are concerned with are their bogus mythical doctrines. Should a christian who no longer gives allegiance to the world have their tattoo marks removed? Absolutely yes. Jesus said it's better to enter heaven with missing body parts than to suffer death at the hand of God. (Mark 9) Read the book. Do churchy types really care about religious restrictions any more? Certainly not. Today licentious attitudes reign supreme in our faux-churches. There's no difference between a tattooed choir member than a member of a typical street gang. Why? Because Christ calls each of us to come out of the world (1 Corinthians 6:17), but typical church members do not consider the LAW to be of use. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A LICENSE TO SIN. If being a Christian makes one different than the world, then displaying skin illustrations is something that should be denied and removed. that's me, hollering from the choir loft.....

I'm only going to touch on a few points here: Interpretations of meanings and references to Hebrews and Jews have been typically skewed by reason of christian antisemitism. This attitude has perverted the post-modern understanding of many. Some interpretations are correct, but most are not. First, it should be clearly understood that ALL prophecy centers upon the nation, the people and the State of Israel. Second, it should be understood the church is not and never has been a part of it. (*) Interpretations cannot be appropriately applied if these principles are not respected. For instance, Adonai liberated the Hebrew people from slavery in Egypt, but they didn't become a nation until they agreed to the issuance of LAW from the holy mountain. This is an accepted political principle by secular historians as well as in Jewish tradition. Church types are generally ignorant of the distinction. You wrote above, "Israel the divided Nation into House of Israel, House of Judah with different destinies." While true that the ancient nation of Israel was divided during the reign of Solomon's idiot son Rehoboam, it's destiny is NOT to remain so. Please read Ezekiel 37:15-28. Ezekiel 37 is divided into two prophecies, both referencing Israel. The first section, called the Dry Bones prophecy speaks to the rebirth of the modern State of Israel. The second section, called the Two-stick prophecy speaks to the regathering of the nation into one specific place - Eretz Yisrael. Jewish scholars have long discussed what they refer to as the Two-House theory, but the modern regathering of Hebrew people, called Aliyah, has put a lot of holes into their theories. Church types refuse to acknowledge both God's promises and recent history. Instead they bury their collective heads in the shifting sands of antisemitic Replacement Theology. You ended your post by writing, "I also agree with you on the 'lack of understanding' today. I think there should be a test on the OLD TEST one has to pass to be able to even 'speak' on the New Testament...to harsh??? IDK, that is how I see it though. Do you see 'knowledge being poured out', as having any effect on the whole 'word preacher control thing'? " While we both seem to generally follow the same track, I must ask for clarification of the term "OLD TEST". By this do you mean OT/Old Covenant or Tanakh? If you do, then I most heartily agree with you. Unfortunately, most church types automatically reject any mention of detailed study on the subject. How then shall they be taught? I have personally been ejected from study groups because the people in attendance HATED the very suggestion of Bible study in general and OT study in particular. A very good friend of mine from military days has had the same sad experience despite his very light touch on the subject. Church types are ignorant and prefer to remain so. Thus they know not the gospel message. I'm not sure what you mean by "knowledge poured out" as applying to the church today mostly because we are presently neck deep in what was predicted to be the Great Apostasy. Knowledge of God's LAW or any concept of a covenant relationship with Adonai is forbidden by congregations today. The pouring out of knowledge in the past two hundred years has been unique in human history. Technology rules the planet. The minds and hearts of mankind now worship the work of our own hands (such as AI). Today we of the human race are further from God and each other than at any other time in history. Nuclear war hangs over our heads like the sword of Damocles hanging above him by a thread. Meanwhile our churches preach contentment much like Dr. Strangelove who declared he no longer worried because he'd learned to love the bomb. Nobody seems to care. No leader seeks peace. No citizen cries out to God for it. We wave the flag and holler for MORE WAR. Technology hasn't been the blessing it purports to be. In truth it's been a curse. For instance, computers were originally developed to assist with the US government census. Contrast this with the work of God opposing King David's census of Yisrael. Are computers really a blessing or a curse? When I was young the world spun on its axis quite well without them. Today we worship them. In other words, I believe the reference to knowledge is about high technology, not knowledge of God. ANY Bible based knowledge of God is automatically rejected by everybody. Indeed the knowledge of ANY Holy book seems to be rejected. The Qur'an says that the children of Israel were given their land by Allah because they suffered under pharaoh. Do modern Muslims respect the words of their own holy book? They do not. The Qur'an also predicted the opposition of Muslims against Yisrael and calls those who do so "losers". (That's a literal translation, btw.) It's a sad statement of our time that; - NOBODY gives a damn about God. - Nobody respects the Bible. - Nobody even cares about their fellow man. - THE ONLY thing church types love is their pet doctrine, which most of the time is false BECAUSE they know not the gospel nor do they understand the divine covenant relationship required by the OT. APART FROM THE LAW NO ONE CAN BE SAVED. The church is Ichabod (1 Samuel 4:21) It is time for us to REPENT of our SINs and wickedness. that's me, hollering from the choir loft... (*) Replacement theology, an antisemitic doctrine of the church, is NOT a legitimate measure of God's plan of redemption. The kingdom of God is a JEWISH kingdom. Jesus Christ is KING OF THE JEWS, not pope of the gentiles. Big difference! Saving grace unto Jesus implies adoption into His (Jewish) kingdom - NOT the church of Rome, Baptists, Presbyterians, Universalists, Pentecostals or the non-denominational church's of America. 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You are incorrect on a few points. HOUSE OF JACOB is traditionally understood to be a reference to the nation of Israel as a whole. While other religions have tried to tap into this nomenclature, its generally not accepted as such. Rather it's a specific reference to the nation of Israel. Obfuscation abounds such as that quoted above, but the primary understanding is that the House of Jacob means Israel. For instance, Muslims and Christians also claim to be a part of the House of Jacob. They aren't, but that doesn't stop them from making the assertion. JEW is a term used to refer to members of the ancient tribe of Judah. In modern interpretations, Jew is a generic umbrella term of identification for those of various Judaic disciplines and tribal lineage - including the tribe of Levi and others of Hebraic descent. Specifically a Jew is a person who is born of a Jewish mother. In certain circumstances, one who converts to Judaism may not be considered to be a Jew either. Specific determinations are now made by the Orthodox (Hasidic) Rabbinate of the Jerusalem Sanhedrin. Today, citizens of the State of Israel are appropriately referred to as Israelis mainly because many citizens are Muslim, Christian or of a discipline other than Orthodox Judaism. When the State of Israel was originally formed in 1948 those who lived within its boundaries, regardless of religion, were 'grandfathered in' as Israelis. This is not true today, however, as the Orthodox Rabbinate has established religious law to prohibit certain Jewish disciplines from entering Israel and becoming citizens. (This is in direct violation of the constitution of the State of Israel in that it illegally limits those who attempt to make Aliyah. Nobody seems to want to oppose this abuse of power, however.) The LOST - is a generic non-Biblical term that's often asserted by those who claim to have a part in the inheritance of the nation of Israel - as in the 10 lost tribes. Identification with the lost tribes has been attempted in the past by non-Jews who have sought to subvert Jewish tradition and establish their own importance over non-Jewish doctrines and disciplines. The term "lost" has different generic social scriptural and spiritual meanings depending upon whether one is a Jew (as in the Two House Doctrine) or whether one is a non-Jew (bound for eternal torment if not a church member). The actual spiritual meaning has been 'lost' amidst endless arguments and anemic evangelism of the 21st century. In the year 2023 the actual spiritual definition of the term has been eroded to the point it has no meaning at all except to those who attempt to misappropriate it for their own agenda and purpose. Biblical quotations notwithstanding, much errant interpretation of what were once commonly understood terms and definitions has been confused to the point that they either have no meaning at all or have been subverted for use by persons who have no honest desire to propose a correct Biblical understanding. As always the entire subject has been reduced to a control issue. He who controls the definition controls the word and he who controls the word controls the congregation. Control of the congregation results in franchise profit - the bottom line for most such argument and discussion. In other words, the preacher always has one hand on the Bible and the other hand in someone else's pocket (sometimes their pants too). that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Your appreciation of eschatology is skewed because your understanding of the sequence of events is incorrect. THIS IS the SAME error committed by the pharisees of Jesus' day as well as the Orthodox rabbinate today. It's the SAME ERROR made by pseudo-scholars of the Bible who only seek to promote their own agenda. It is most definitely NOT what God has intended. Why? Because the Great Tribulation has already happened. The sequence of events presented by Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera in 1595 and later by John Nelson Darby in the mid-19th century is incorrect. It's incorrect for the same reasons - personal agenda. Ribera wanted to confuse protestants of the reformation and Darby wanted to promote his own brand of Dispensationalism despite the fact he was neither historian nor theologian. Beware the leaven of the pharisees (that protestants have swallowed whole.) Jeremiah 30:7 identifies a time in his future he called 'Jacob's Trouble'. Some translations call it 'tribulation'. Either way it tells us two things. First it says there will be a time of terrible persecution and second that it will focus upon Jews - those who are identified in the Tanakh as the House of Jacob. Look it up. The prophet Daniel describes a turbulent time in his future as lasting seven years. Much has been written about a faux-clock or divided calendar which serve only to confuse prophecy, not explain it. Specifically the time of Jacob's Trouble will last seven years - no more, no less. Jesus, who some call Lord and savior but who deny His words to establish their own doctrines, said it would ONLY HAPPEN ONCE. (Matthew 24:21) Thus in order to establish the FALSE dogma of Tribulation the post-modern church must lie about the meaning of the prophecies and the sequence of events leading up to them and following them. It should also be pointed out that there are more than 16 different interpretations of tribulation/rapture/millenium that are held to be sacrosanct by stubborn ill informed church types. If the interpretations are correct why then are there so many variations? THE HOLOCAUST, a period of intense persecution of European Jewry leading to property loss and murder of over six million, began in 1938 and lasted until 1945 - a period of seven years. I've made this statement before, but have been ignored by those who prefer to embrace doctrine of demons and antisemitic hatred of both scripture and Jews. They prove this to be true by denying the Holocaust and the death of millions of innocent men women and children. In all this they still claim to be Christians and then cry loud and long for yet another holocaust - denying the words of Jesus who said it would only happen once. Which is it? Is Jesus a confused liar or is the church guilty of perverting scripture? Judge with right judgment because you can't have it both ways and be right. What has actually happened is that the church has gotten the sequence of events wrong - the exact SAME error made by the pharisees of Jesus' time when the divinity of Jesus is considered. Like them, the church refuses to acknowledge the truth of history and the words of Biblical prophets including the Son of God. They love darkness and lies more than the truth of history and scripture. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

News stories are popping up all over the web today. Most of them speak to an object that fell out of the sky into someone's back yard. Strangely, there is no corroborating video from any source either private, LEO or military. Or perhaps not so strange after all.... Vegas is less than 30 minutes' drive from Nellis, AFB where they launch and recover drones. I've been there and seen them popping up as they launch. Area 51, home of experimental aircraft & electronics, is a further 30 minutes up the road from Nellis. Both are close enough to Vegas to allow for pieces of a damaged experimental aircraft to land in a residential area. That being said, forget about the alien - where is the wreckage? Videos on the web show a large creature poking around somebody's bushes. Why are these things always naked? If an advanced civilization is visiting our neighborhood among the stars you'd think they'd wear something decent for public consumption. How about visiting the local Walmart high fashion department before they make an appearance? How about a uniform with a clever logo imprinted on it? Instead we get naked apes or little naked gray guys. How come they're all so skinny? Don't they have any decent food? Instead of landing in someone's back yard why don't they land in the parking lot of a local steak house? Hey, I'll even treat them to a juicy steak if they show up - for friendly interstellar relations you understand. Some reports say they mutilate cattle. Why don't they cook the beef before they eat it? Just wondering, folks - that's all. I guess asking for directions to a good restaurant on Mars is probably not something ET does very often. Anybody know where to get Chinese on the moon? I hear Bejing is going to build one on the dark side. ET may be well advised to try it out. I'd advise against the Bat Soup, however. There are rumors COVID came from some Chinese concoction like that. On the other hand, ET might like it. Valid reports seem to indicate the source of the alien videos wasn't Las Vegas but rather from a generic user on TicTok. Is this an example of a Chinese hoax? hmmmmm If any fellow removed his clothing and ran around in the neighborhood yards at night don't you think somebody would take videos of it? There are too many questions to ask about this and too many ridiculous answers being volunteered. What are they smoking out there? (and do they have any left over) that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

THE BIG problem with Evangelical dogma of the End Times is that it's scriptural interpretations are OUT OF SEQUENCE. In the last decade of the 16th century Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera composed what he called FUTURISM. Initially a piece written to confuse the protestant reformation it contained all the events depicted in modern 'interpretations' of the end of human authority on this planet. In other words, all the doctrine that's held so close to the vest of protestants today IS CATHOLIC DOGMA. In the mid 19th century John Nelson Darby dusted off Ribera's tripe and formulated his own version called DISPENSATIONALISM. Darby was a consort of witches and certainly not an ordained priest as was Ribera. Nobody cared either then or now. It's an adult myth held as truth. In some instances the interpretations are true - albeit out of the sequence presented by both Ribera and Darby. The falsifications presented by Darby are popular to this day and NOBODY will listen to reason when alternate explanations are presented. One such alternate issue is the Tribulation. It's already happened. Problem is - there was no rapture that's normally associated with the Tribulation. Let's take a closer look at it. The Hebrew prophet Jeremiah declared there would be a future time of trouble for the Jewish people. He called it "the time of Jacob's trouble" (30:7). The Hebrew prophet Daniel suggested the time of Jacob's trouble would last 7 years. While rapture fans disagree as to when their departure date would be scheduled, most agree the troubled period would indeed last seven years. Jesus said it would only happen once. (Matt 24:21 & Mark 13:19) So what happened to these predictions? In 1938 on what is known as Kristallnacht (night of broken crystal/glass) the Tribulation began. It did not end until the cessation of hostilities in Europe in late spring of 1945 - a period of 7 years. When the smoke cleared SIX MILLION JEWS had died and countless millions more had lost their homes, their families and their hope for the future. Today as we all know, most antisemitic Christian types, who claim they do not harbor ill will against Jews, ALL HOPE FOR ANOTHER HOLOCAUST. They all hope for more innocent Jews to die at the hands of fanatics who enforce the gospel with threats of death. Not only is this a perfect example of prophecy interpreted out of sequence, it's an example of Christian hypocrisy hubris and self-delusion. Christians want MORE JEWS TO DIE and deny the words of Christ who said IT WOULD ONLY HAPPEN ONCE. Other self- important church types easily sweep aside the gruesome deaths of six million Jews and say the holocaust didn't happen and that a future time of worse events would take place. To them I say, "I AM a Jew. Do you want to start by killing me too?https://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/Smileys/classic/confused.gif?" It is exactly this type of blind hypocrisy and self-delusion that is now the hallmark of Evangelical Christians. They have absolutely NO regard or respect for others who aren't members of their church (because anybody who isn't is going to hell). They give no concession to the FACT that they are misinterpreting prophecy in an out-of-sequence manner to suit their own fantasies. Finally, they betray their own god - Jesus - when they call Him a liar. He said it would only happen ONCE. Which part of ONCE isn't understood here? The tribulation, the time of Jacob's trouble, has already happened. that's me, hollering from the choir loft...