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  1. Dear Sir, Teditis ..... 2,168 .................... Senior Member.... I am not suggesting anything other than what Saint Peter and Moses have declared. that God hovered over a body of water in the beginning, and used His WORD and water to make all things. I repeat: If God had to create the water.... Moses would have written something like this: “And God said let there be water and there was water and God saw the water and declared it good” …. YES …All the things God created ....we know only God is good. BUT one cannot hover over something unless it’s created or it was there in the first place. Water is NOT God ! it is written: Water is a witness . 1 John 5: 5Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? 6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Water therefore is a witness of the Spirit but is not the Spirit Water therefore is a witness of the Blood but is not the Blood Water is subject to OUR Heavenly Father’s WORD and Authority and not the other way around. in the future : All bodies of water …springs, rivers, lakes, oceans …..that will be in the NEW Creation He is taking us too , must filter through OUR Fathers throne before it flows out across the new earth. I perceive It will be a cloudless....until the water flows out from Fathers throne and begins to evaporate. then the New clouds will form and Father will send rain out across the new endless earth that will bloom and the new earth with be full of beauty, new trees and forests, new birds and animals, new lakes and seas teaming with resurrected whales etc. with no more death or evil or sin and corruption or pain or tears .....AMEN come Lord Jesus. The reason I brought up this subject is to reveal the truth about our Holy GOD . To show if possible the size and magnitude of the NEW creation He is taking us to Revelation 21:1 in comparison to the 1st . Praising Him for His power to Make to Make all creation NEW. Genesis 1:1 A floor of DEEP Dark Water that Father hovered over in the dark and there was no sound . I am trying to show how GOD is indeed the Creator of all things. REVELATION: 10 ;6 6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea *, and the things which are therein, ….. *{ a SEA is surrounded by land ….land that God made when He compressed the water. } Fact is all the stars, planets, moons etc. are made by compressed water. ONE cannot create things from nothing and The God of Truth >>>>>THE WORD <<<<<The LORD GOD of ISRAEL i.e. Jesus Christ …..tells us…. HE had water to work with. Peace in Christ
  2. It clearly states GOD hovered over the face of the water and darkness was upon the deep . If God our God of TRUTH created the water MOSES would have written: and God said let there be water ! And God saw the water and it was good .... But it's written the spirit of GOD hovered over water ... And then it's written and GOD SAID let the waters be gathered to one place that dry land appear ... Saint Peter announces 2peter3:5 the world refuses to believe God made all things from by His word from water ... So what camp are you in ? The truth is written in black and white for all to see for 1000's of years perhaps your not as born again as you think you are ? Water first just like water baptism 1st Fire 2nd just like fire baptism 2nd Peace in Christ
  3. I'm not seeking controversy.........im point out the WRITTEN TRUTH as saint Peter tells us 2 Peter 3:5 and MOSES tells us in Genesis 1:2 this is the truth and is the difference between what the Holy Bible says how God created the cosmos and how science says everything came from a black hole and nothing
  4. It clearly states in Geneses 1:2 that in the beginning the spirit of God HOVERED over water not CREATED water to hover over …………. And saint Peter tells us the " GOD" THE WORD made all things from water and out of water and then flooded it with water……
  5. I believe that Jesus Christ is the one and only God that created all things and just as Saint Peter states as I quoted and pointed out ....God made all things by the Power of His WORD and FROM water 2 Peter 3:5 It clearly states in Geneses 1 that in the beginning the spirit of God HOVERED over water not CREATED water to hover over …………. God is making ALL THINGS NEW ............. 1st existed God in spirit , Darkness, silence i.e. only the thought life ( Because he had not created audible sound or spoke yet ) AND WATER VERY DEEP WATER is clearly written already existed. if you turn to the end of the scriptures REVELATION 21;1....you can clearly see everything new will be : OUR HOLY spirit GOD now in physical SON i.e. JESUS CHRIST ( ONE GOD FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT ), When he melts away the cosmos with fire the NEW Earth REVELATION 21;1 at first is without WATER ! but has LIGHT for the lamb is the light , and SOUND because we will be forever praising HIM ! BEHOLD the NEW CREATION is ......absolutely opposite what it was in the beginning ! as for the water that HE once hovered over... it too has become subjected to HIS authority ( Just as all things shall be ) and flows in the future from the base of HIS throne, as a river of life out across an new FLOOR that has been refined by fire.............the new floor big enough to hold HOLY NEW JERUSALEM ( which is about the size of our moon ) and big enough to hold all the other mansions He has prepared for His loved ones is not a ball spinning in space but a NEW earthen floor that has no end stretching out to the north, south, east, west,. is NEW and opposite the first floor of water. The First was a floor of water He hovered over as a spirit or walked upon the waters , or flew across on HIS THRONE just as HE has always had the power and ability So too the NEW FLOOR of earth REVELATION 21:1 HE walks across and or fly's across upon HIS throne both options as HE has always had from the beginning one god without beginning without end...... but the CREATION had a beginning the heavens and earth i.e. and the NEW shall be made NEW and HOLY without sin, darkness, evil, death ................no more tears. Excuse me but …..can’t you perceive ?
  6. I believe that Jesus Christ is the one and only God that created all things and just as Saint Peter states as I quoted and pointed out ....God made all things by the Power of His WORD and FROM water 2 Peter 3:5 It clearly states in Geneses 1 that in the beginning the spirit of God HOVERED over water not CREATED water to hover over …………. God is making ALL THINGS NEW ............. 1st existed God in spirit , Darkness, silence i.e. only the thought life ( Because he had not created audible sound or spoke yet ) AND WATER VERY DEEP WATER is clearly written already existed. if you turn to the end of the scriptures REVELATION 21;1....you can clearly see everything new will be : OUR HOLY spirit GOD now in physical SON i.e. JESUS CHRIST ( ONE GOD FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT ), When he melts away the cosmos with fire the NEW Earth REVELATION 21;1 at first is without WATER ! but has LIGHT for the lamb is the light , and SOUND because we will be forever praising HIM ! BEHOLD the NEW CREATION is ......absolutely opposite what it was in the beginning ! as for the water that HE once hovered over... it too has become subjected to HIS authority ( Just as all things shall be ) and flows in the future from the base of HIS throne, as a river of life out across an new FLOOR that has been refined by fire.............the new floor big enough to hold HOLY NEW JERUSALEM ( which is about the size of our moon ) and big enough to hold all the other mansions He has prepared for His loved ones is not a ball spinning in space but a NEW earthen floor that has no end stretching out to the north, south, east, west,. opposite the first floor of water. The First was a floor of water He hovered over, walked over, flew over on HIS THRONE as a spirit ON the NEW FLOOR of earth HE walks across and or fly's across upon HIS throne both options open to HIM as HE has always had from the beginning one god without beginning without end but the CREATION made NEW and HOLY without sin, darkness, evil, death ................no more tears. Excuse me but …..can’t you perceive ?
  7. 2Peter3:5But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water,..... Genesis 1:2Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Therefore .... I conclude ....water has always existed . No place is it written God created water. It was a shore less/ border less floor. Like an infinite ocean under GOD " GOD " who has now revealed Himself in Jesus ...in the beginning our God ....The Holy Spirit .... The WORD.... hovered over water " By his power and word He created all things from water . This infinite mass explains why modern science wants to predict black holes. Of course man shall find traces of water on the planets rock is made from compressed water . Something science claims cannot be done .... But the stars and moons and planets and infinite cosmos was created by God out of water .
  8. I'd have to challenge do you mean more faithful or religious ? I've met many a woman who is more dedicated to daily reading , daily prayers and attending church services regularly then men. But in discussing biblical topics I've enjoyed more conversations that test the infinite power of God 's unlimited ability to create worlds above or worlds below and traverse these realms freely with men. As for the fall .... If mankind did not know the difference between good and evil, is this almost the same as not knowing right from wrong ? Obviously they could not fathom the consequences that would follow by doing what Satan suggested. They were innocent and gullible... Once their eyes were opened they now experienced how one can be duped, ashamed of themselves for the first time. They had to hate Satan for tricking them. Adam the 1st Christ was living forever he was being fruitful and multiplying, birth had been without pain. But now it's a new ball game. Paul tells us mankind received a gift .. I.e. They did become like God now knowing good from evil. But with this gift came condemnation and they lost immortality. Jesus the 2nd Christ came to undo it all and he has ( thank you Jesus) Jesus has offered us immortality again .... Anyone who thinks God the Father didn't know the fall was coming can't know God at all. We know from the scriptures God's plan is to eliminate Satan and his host forever. Before God even began creating before He broke the Barrier of thought life to the spoken WORD Heavenly Father has been planning the demise of HIS enemies. At His only begotten expense and the suffering if the saints we through Jesus Christ our Lord our King and our God are more than over comers ! Not to us Father but to you and to your holy son Jesus Christ be the Glory .... You are our glory and we are yours amen come lord Jesus amen
  9. Our Lord has himself prayed against the possibly of pre trib rapture 15I am not asking that You take them out of the world, but that You keep them from the evil one.a John 17:15
  10. If global warming activists understood psalms 102 vrs 26 they would be advocating 2Peter3: 10-13. i believe since the immortal God himself became mortal in Jesus and died then rose again .... All creation the heavens, earth, oceans , rivers and all there in is mortal and is now subjected to die ....just as the creator did .....that it must rise again .
  11. A person can be full / filled with the Holy Spirit when he prays or speaks in his her own native tongue i.e. Speaking in tongues is not a fool proof indication the spirit is Holy
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