Alan Hales

anytime you want to know more, Just ask me. Because I know and believe the Bible.

We are supposed to ask God For the Holy Ghost, Lk 11: 11--13, It's not the case of waiting for God to give the Holy Ghost and tongues, It's the case of people receiving the already given gifts. In all five Biblical accounts of people being baptised in the Holy Ghost, They all spoke in tongues, Making tongues the Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost. The problem is, People go by there own experiences and lack of knowledge or lack of faith, Instead of knowing what the Bible says, believing it, and receiving God's gift.

Everyone who is baptised in the Holy Ghost, Will speak in tongues. You don't have to pray or beg for God to use you to heal the sick, Just do it, Jesus has already said the believer shall lay hands on the sick, And they SHALL recover. Jesus did say everyone will speak in tongues and heal the sick, In Mk 16: 17--18. Or are you saying Jesus is deceiving us. You are going by your own experience instead of going by God's word. It's not you and me contradicting each other, It's you contradicting the Bible. When I said Paul said not everyone will speak min tongues, In 1 Cor 12: 30, He was speaking about the tongues that are for interpreting, And not everyone will have that gift, But there are seven more operations of tongues that the Bible records, And every Christian who is baptised in the Holy Ghost can speak in those tongues.

In everyone of the Five Biblical account of people being baptised in the Holy Ghost, They all spoke in tongues, Making Tongues the Biblical evidence of the baptism in the Holy Ghost. Jesus said the "BELIEVER" Shall speak in tongues. What I, Or anyone else believes isn't important, Because it's what the Bible says, that's important. When Paul said not everyone will speak in tongues, 1 Cor 12: 30. He was talking about the Gifts of tongues that are one of the Gifts of the Spirit, in 1 Cor 12: 10, These tongues need an interpretation and are only ONE of the Eight operations of tongues that the Bible mentions. Every operation of tongues are very important to the believer, That's why Jesus said the Believe SHALL speak in tongues. The people that argue that tongues aren't for everyone, Are those who don't speak in tongues and go by there own experience through there lack of faith to speak in tongues.

I take it you have never read 1 Cor 14: 14--15, because it tells us that these tongues are our spirit praying.

These are some operations of tongues, Which are very important for every Christian, That's why God gave them to the Church. [1]Foreign languages, Acts 2: 4--11. God can and will use anyone who is baptised in the Holy Ghost to use these tongues to speak to a foreigner. [2]Tongues that need an interpretation, 1 Cor 12: 10. [3]Tongues the are a mystery, 1 Cor 14: 2, a "Mystery" is a hidden secret, NOT hidden from us, But hidden for us, and will be revealed as we speak in this operation of tongues. 1 Cor 14: 12--13.. [4]Tongues that build us up. 1 Cor 14: 4. Jude 20. [5]Tongues that are for our spirit to pray to God with, 1 Cor 14: 14--15. [6]Tongues to praise God in the spirit with, 1 Cor 14: 15--17. [7]Tongues of Angels 1 Cor 13: 1. [8]Tongues that the Holy Spirit uses to intercede for us through, Rom 8: 26, so all things can work for our good, V28.

But you don't hear or do the words of Jesus, You twist them and give your own opinions. The five wise virgins went up to heaven in the pre trib rapture and the five unwise were left behind.

Off cause it matter who is right, It matters that we know what the Bible says. Those who believe we go through the tribulation period don't know what the Bible says, and will have to give an account to God as to why they told lies and deceived people.

I won't remember what I said, But you will know how wrong you are, [Were] If you knew the Bible[ Which you don't] You would know that the Church has to go to heaven before the anti-christ can come.

You are showing your Biblical ignorance, Twisting the scriptures, and calling Jesus and Paul liars. You have got the "Elect Jews" Matt 24, Mixed up with the "Elect Church". Both Jesus and Paul said the Church WON'T go through the great tribulation period, Yet you sat we do. I will believe Jesus and you can believe your lies, and twisted scriptures. Nowhere doe the Bible say the Church goes through the great tribulation. You HAVEN'T demonstrated that we will go through the tribulation, You HAVE twisted the scriptures and given your own opinions. And You CANNOT build a doctrine on own opinions and twisted scriptures. At the pre trib rapture, Jesus comes for His people, whereas after the tribulation, Jesus sends Angels to gather His people, [The elect Jews and those who get saved during the tribulation period]. Two different events. And Another fact, Before the tribulation, the Church goes to heaven, And after the tribulation, The Church comes back from heaven.. Don't you ever read the Bible??.

I won't remember what you said, It's you who will know that I'm right and your are wrong.

The only trumpet that I will hear while I'm on the earth, Is the trumpet that sounds the pre tribulation rapture. 1 Cor 15: 51--52. The Church is in heaven before the FIRST trumpet in the book of Revelation sounds. And I won't see the beast come. It's quite obvious that you don't know anything about the end times.

The term "Rapture" is real, It means a taking away, it comes from the Latin, "Raptura" which comes from the Greek, "Harpazo", which takes place before the great tribulation period.

You cannot escape the truth that the pre-trib raptures is Biblical, You CANNOT giv ONE scripture that says the Church goes through the great tribulation period.

You really don't know the Bible DO YOU? The word, "Rapture" comes from, "Caught up" in 1 Thess 4: 17. The Greek word is, "Harazo", And the Latin translation is, "Raptura", and the English translation of Raptura, Is "Rapture", And I 1 Thess 4: 17, it means "Caught up to heaven". You cannot escape the truth that the pre-trib raptures is Biblical, You CANNOT giv ONE scripture that says the Church goes through the great tribulation period.

Not you again, With your twisted scriptures, your nonsense and your lies. None of those scriptures mention the Church going through the tribulation period. Those Christians who die, go straight to heaven, They don't get raptured.

Rev 7: 9--15, Are those who get saved during the coming great tribulation period, It has nothing to do with the Church or the Church age. You really don't know anything about the last days. If you knew the Bible, You would know there are Seven raptures. Enoch. Elijah, Jesus, The Church, The 144.000 Jews,The mid trib saints, And the two witnesses.

There you go AGAIN, showing your Biblical ignorance, 2 Thess 2: 6--7 DOESN'T say the beast is holding back the coming of Jesus READ IT AGAIN, this time put some glasses on. As for the Greek word, "Apostasia", The Greek meaning is made up from two Greek words which put together means, "A departing, A taking away". As vs 6--7 prove. PLEASE NOTE, It doesn't say A falling away from the faith, DOES IT??.. NO.. false teachers say it means falling away from the faith. Trust you to use an erroneous Greek meaning. Even if it did mean falling from faith, People have fallen away from the Biblical truths, just like you have. The Church has to go before the antichrist can come, as I have shown you. You CANNOT give ONE scripture that says the Church goes through the great tribulation period. Because there aren't any.

2 Thess 2: 6--7 doesn't say the beast is holding back the coming of Jesus,, DOES IT??.. NO, It says the Church is holding the man of sin up. See vs 6--8. There is no mention of rebellion in 2 Thess 2. The "Falling away" in v3, Is made up from two Greek words, which mean "A Departing, A taking away". The pre-trib rapture. You have made your own end time doctrine up.

Nowhere does the Bible say the Church goes through the great tribulation period, You are calling Jesus and Paul liars. If you knew the Bible, You would know that the Church has to go before the man of sin can come. If the devil couldn't deal with ONE Jesus, How is he going to handle millions of Christians who are just like Jesus??. He can't, That's why we have to go before he comes. Because you don't know those and other scriptures are in the Bible, You have no right to your end time belief, Because you haven't studied the end time events properly. So do a Biblical study of the end times with an open mind and a teachable spirit. I could give you scriptures, But you need to find the for yourself to stop you ignorance of the end time events. Here are some more thing to look for. [1]Jesus comes for His people before the tribulation period, And come Back WITH His people after the tribulation. Two different events. [2]At the pre tribulation rapture, Jesus comes for His people, Whereas after the tribulation, The Angels gather the people. Two different events. [3]You don't find Jesus coming for His Church in the tribulation period, Because it's not in the Bible. You can't gibe ONE scripture that says the Church goes through the end time great tribulation period.

You don't find the Church going through the great tribulation period, In the Bible, And that's a Biblical FACT. You do find the Jews, backsliders and those who get saved during the tribulation period, In the Bible. In relation to the coming great tribulation period, Both Jesus and Paul[ Who was inspired by Jesus], Say we won't go through it. If you don't know those and other scriptures are in the Bible, You have no right to your end time belief, Because you haven't studied the end time events properly. So do a Biblical study of the end times with an open mind and a teachable spirit. I could give you scriptures, But you need to find the for yourself to stop you ignorance of the end time events. Here are some more thing to look for. [1]Jesus comes for His people before the tribulation period, And come Back WITH His people after the tribulation. Two different events. [2]At the pre tribulation rapture, Jesus comes for His people, Whereas after the tribulation, The Angels gather the people. Two different events. So do your homework and you'll find out that the Church doesn't go through the great tribulation period.

No one can provide chapter or verse that mention the Church going through the great tribulation period, Because there isn't any. You have admitted that you once believed the Biblical truth, But now you DON'T. You have accepted the devils lies, and call Jesus and Paul liars. You can't give ONE scripture to back your erroneous belief up, And I can provide lots of scriptures that prove the pre-trib rapture.

Jesus said, "That day shall not come" What day, The day of the physical coming of Jesus to reign. Please note v1, "The coming of our Lord AND our gathering together unto Him. [1]The coming of our lord,= the physical coming to reign for 1000 years. [2]Our gathering together unto Him= the pre tribulation rapture. The Greek meaning for, "Falling away", is made up from two Greek words which means "A Departing, a taking away". Please note what 2 Thess 2: 3 DOESN'T SAY, It doesn't say a "falling away FROM THE FAITH", Does it??. Even if it did, people have fallen away from the faith. The reason why Paul wrote 2 Thess 2, is because some people were scaring the Christians by saying they'll have to go through the tribulation period. v2. Then Paul goes on to tell them not to worry because the Church will be raptures before the man of sin can come. Vs 3--8.

There is this lifetime, Then there will be the 1000 year reign of Jesus, Rev 20: 4. then there will be a new Heaven and earth, 2 Pet 3: 13. Rev 21: 1.

The problem with those who don't believe the pre tribulation rapture, Is, They don't believe the Bible, Hence them twisting the scriptures. You are getting people having tribulation, [Trouble] in the Church age, [This dispensation, the dispensation of grace], mixed up with the great tribulation period. [The dispensation of wrath]. Two different dispensations. Those who believe we go through the great tribulation period, Cannot give any scriptures, They twist the scriptures and give pure speculations, And you CANNOT build doctrines on twisted scriptures and speculations. See these two defferences. At the pre-trib rapture, Jesus comes for His people.... After the tribulation, The Angels gather those who get saved during it. Two different events. At the rapture, The Church [The Christians] goes to heaven... After the tribulation, the Church comes from heaven. Two different events. The Church has to go before the man of sin [The antichrist] can come and start the tribulation period. If the devil couldn't handle ONE Jesus, How is he going to deal with millions who are just like Jesus??. he can't, That's why we HAVE to be raptured before the antichrist can come. I'll let you find the scriptures for these events, It'll do you good to find the truth.