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    Gospel is good news. It is all good news. There are many different aspects of the good news. One aspect of truth may seem to contradict another aspect of the same truth. To be declared another gospel there would have to be a denial of the basics of the faith once delivered. For example if it were stated that Jesus did not come in the flesh that would be another gospel. That gospel would not be classified as good news. Therefore it cannot be gospel.
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    Bethel Church - A Different Gospel

    Yes failure happens to many. Your observation says I do not know how they restored him and therefore he is not restored is curious. When you say unrepentant you have made a judgement about the man so I must assume that you know his heart. I do not know all about the restoration and neither do you to be able to make judgement.
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    Bethel Church - A Different Gospel

    The topic at hand is Bill Johnson. Todd Bentley is an easy target. You must know a lot about restoration. What would restoration look like to you? You must be spiritual as in Galatians 6:1 and you have a spirit of meekness so surly you could help.
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    Bethel Church - A Different Gospel

    Bentley is truly a weak and broken vessel. You are correct in the reporting of his failure. What you are not aware of is the men who came and worked with him to restore him. Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
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    Spiritual War & Spiritual Armour

    Yes, part of the finished work is the provision of armour . If we do not appropriate what is provided in faith then when we are run over can we question the faith? It is important to understand that this armour that is provided is not to be taken off and put on at leisure. Do not take it off at night, that is when you need it the most. Do not take it off in the day it is necessary protection provided for purpose.
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    Broke free last night, but

    Job 33:14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. 15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; 16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, 17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.
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    Bethel Church - A Different Gospel

    Very interesting sources. Turning to these sources to find out about Bethel is like turning to CNN to find out the truth about Donald J. Trump. These do betray a bias and do not reflect the truth.
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    Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

    It is the role of the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truth. All that are born again not of the flesh but of the Spirit will know the truth. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. I do believe that we should contend earnestly for the faith that was once delivered. Jude indicates that need. Jude 1:1 Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: 2 Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. The primary concern that each should have is their own position in the truth. The secondary is to help others by teaching them to observe all things commanded. To go after a group with your personal bias is different than that. Yes do not be moved from the simplicity of Christ.
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    Bethel Church - A Different Gospel

    The Pharisees and the teachers of the law accused Jesus of doing things like casting out demons by demons. You might have the imagination that you would not have been one of them accusing Jesus of such things. The scribes and Pharisees held the prophets of old in high esteem but were not to kind to the prophets that were in their day. They thought we are not like our fathers but they were just like them. In Matthew 23 Jesus reveals to them what they are doing. I will not post the entire chapter here but you should read it . This passage indicates that they kill the prophets sent to them and they are guilty of the blood of all the prophets being guilty along with their fore fathers. Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. By your words You sit in Moses seat. Matthew 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: I challenge you to produce any proof that Bethel invites demons into their services. Be careful not to attribute the works of the Holy Spirit to demons.
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    Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

    It seems that by bible you mean the cannon. If that is true then you are accepting the work of Catholic priest who met together to examine what writings should be accepted for public reading and teaching. This work was by no means to shut off revelation. There are many things that are not in the bible that are not evil and mentioning these things are not adding to the revelation. The words Lutheran, Methodist, Protestant, are not found in the bible, are these contrivance of minds of flesh? Deuteronomy 4: 1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the Lord God of your fathers giveth you. 2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. If the command is not to receive further revelation then the cannon is closed at Deuteronomy 4. In all expressions of faith there are good things and things that are not so good and maybe even evil. Our task is to find our own way on this journey always seek the truth and try not to kill everyone who does not agree with us.
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    Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

    You do understand that the Catholic Church is no the same as the Roman Catholic Church? The Catholic Church of which I speak is the invisible Church made up of every nationality and tongue that confess the name of Christ. It may include some of the Roman Catholics.
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    Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

    Just want to agree with you. The visible church which is characterized by buildings, budgets, and bodies is not the Universal Church, ie Catholic Church. There is only one Church and it is made up of all who are called and chosen by God. Those who have believed in their hearts and confessed with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord make up this Church. These Church members are found under every label and have many different expressions but yet one body.
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    The inspection of Heb 6:4

    Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. They reject the possibility of going on to maturity when they reject knowledge. The rejection is in the form of laying again the foundations again and again. It is only possible for them to go on if God permits. In the condition of lethargy He will not permit. Heb. 6:3 3 And this will we do, if God permit.
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    The inspection of Heb 6:4

    The group that is addressed is identified in chapter 5 of Hebrews. 10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec. 11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. 12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. The problem seems to be lethargy. Always hanging around but never engaged or growing.
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    Ecumenism: "Why Can't We Be Friends?"

    For many years I have worked toward this unity or ecumenism. Many are afraid of being unequally yoked together with unbelievers. Many are so afraid of the anti-christ church that they will not even be the church. Jesus Prays for All Believers John 17 20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one,Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. The world will know the Father sent the Son when we can come into unity.