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  1. Read this Bible verse again then take time to consider the meaning of it. You might learn a thing or two. Judgement. One of the most misunderstood things about Christianity, and the number one reason the modern churches are falling from grace; refusing to help the brothers and sisters turn from sinful ways. Jesus does not say do not judge. Jesus tells us how to judge. More generally Jesus say, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. If you do not judge others, your heavenly Father will not be judge between you and your abuser. When people take a neutral stand between you and your abuser, they are in effect abandoning you. If you do not judge others, and you will not be judged. And that's bad. "
  2. I'd like God to judge people by the standard they choose to show me. Without love, mercy and justice... As He promised to do. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:1‭-‬2 NIV
  3. Here's another example. Abraham thought about killing his own son and was willing to kill his own son because God told him to do it. But God does not let Abraham kill Isaac. In book of Job says that God lets satan kill all children of Job.
  4. What makes you think that should criticise God for it? They do such horrible things. Whey are you making God responsible for it?
  5. What makes you feel that it's God fault? What makes you think that should accuse Him for it?
  6. David was a great example to follow. He said, "Morning by morning will I destroy all the wicked of the land; To cut off all the workers of iniquity from the city of Jehovah." (Ps.101:8) He didn't allow anyone to mock him. You know, in the old days, the wicked were afraid of the righteous, now it's the other way around.
  7. Do you believe that God plotted with satan? Furthermore, do you believe that God let satan kill children of Job in order to test his faith in Him? In Jn.3:16 says, For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. In book of Job says that God let satan kill children of Job. Does this sound like the actions of a loving God? It doesn't cause cognitive dissonance?
  8. They really happy that they were able to kill Jesus. And they are unhappy because He rose from the dead. They want to kill Him again but they can't. Nevertheless they can kill us. Our deaths and our injuries mean celebration to them! If we died, they will gloat over us and will celebrate by sending each other gifts. "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell on the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelled on the earth." (Rev.11:7-10) They made us suffer ... and suffer ... and suffer... because of Jesus. Brothers, they already make our lives miserable. But does that make sense? How can anyone want to live like that? We don't want to die. And we can't live like that But we don't have a choice, because: - they can and want to kill us because of God - we can't stop loving God All we can do is pray: “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” ' Revelation 6:9-10 Does God have a choice? Is this really the right thing to do?
  9. 'When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” ' Revelation 6:9-10 It is a good example of how to pray for enemies.
  10. So, be a good boy. Don't be a bad boy. Depart from evil and do good. Say no to drugs Don't Worry, Be Happy. Thanks for the great advice.
  11. You should be thankful them that they want to hurt you. If they want to take your shirt, you must hand over them coat as well. And whatever happens you can't go to court. Not because Jesus. Because it is you're telling people to do. Enjoy! Matthew 7:2: "For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. If you do not judge others, your heavenly Father will not be judge between you and your abuser. When people take a neutral stand between you and your abuser, they are in effect abandoning you. If you do not judge others, and you will not be judged. And that's bad.
  12. So, robbers is not my enemies? Jesus wasn't talking about criminals? Shouldn't we love antichrists, witch, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains? A victim of a crime can go to court and to demand justice? We should love just our personal enemies? You agree with this?
  13. So what does that means? Is it your proof that we should love antichrists, witch, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains or what? Those who shows no remorse for their crime and happy when can hurt me. What do you mean? Should I be grateful them that they want to hurt me? If I'm a victim of a crime I can't go to court? And are you trying to say that if criminals want to take my shirt, I must hand over them coat as well? And do you think I should be thankful to criminals for I have been the victim of crime? For example, robbers broke into home, they looted the place, and shot a dog. So what are we supposed to do? Should we lock the doors and call the police? or should we say to our children, that's good because we love crimenals so much that we need to give them everything we have then we also must keep the secret? Our neighbors may be next victims, but that's not why we care. Because we love our enemies and God said "To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; ..." You should be careful about what you say next. You can love and forgive antichrists, witch, criminals, murderer, burglar, rapist... and other villains. What does that have to do with Jesus, law of Moses and Biblical teaching? Speaking of which, you're putting people in danger. P.S. What do you do when somebody breaks forums' rules? So, you don't do anything because "To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; ..." or something?
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