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  1. Now you're calling me a liar. So when I tell you that "you're calling me a liar" it doesn't mean that I judge you. It means I told you the truth. You really said me "you are lying". And when I said "People judge me without love, mercy and justice .. . " it doesn't mean that I judge them. It means I told you the truth. Well, I just pray to God that He judges people by the standard they choose to show me .
  2. Yes. I pray for them like I said.
  3. No! I just pray to God that He judges people by the standard they choose to show me . If you choose love, go with it. If you choose hate and enmity, go with it.
  4. People judge me without love, mercy and justice .. . They hate me for no reason and wish me harm. They do not ask me to forgive them. And they're happy when can hurt me. I wasn't trying to hurt'em. I just pray to God that He judges people by the standard they choose to show me. And I only repeat 7 psalm of David Lord my God, if I have done this and there is guilt on my hands— if I have repaid my ally with evil or without cause have robbed my foe— then let my enemy pursue and overtake me; let him trample my life to the ground and make me sleep in the dust. Arise, Lord , in your anger; rise up against the rage of my enemies. Awake, my God; decree justice. Psalm 7:3‭-‬6 Is that bad? Why?
  5. Make your point, Yowm. People judge me without love, mercy and justice... I don't judge anyone. But I pray to God that He judges people by the standard they choose to show me. Without love, mercy and justice ...
  6. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:1‭-‬2 NIV I pray to God that He judges people by the standard they choose to show me. Without love, mercy and justice... is this right?
  7. As had been previously reported, the European Commission on Friday enacted their “blocking statute,” which would forbid EU-based companies from complying with US sanctions against Iran. The statute also means EU courts will not recognize international claims related to those sanctions. The commission aims to set the statute back into effect, but it won’t be formally done until at least 60 days from now. The US withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal has a 90-day wind-down period, so theoretically there should be nothing to block until early August at any rate. EU officials have been negotiating the matter all week, as an attempt to try to save the P5+1 nuclear deal with Iran after the US withdrew, and started reimplementing sanctions. EU leaders have agreed that the entire union will work together in protecting the deal. Two major EU companies, Germany’s Siemens and France’s Total S.A. had previously indicated they’d stop Iran deals for fear of punishment from the US. With the law passed, they now have considerable protection, and would be violating EU law in refusing to do business over US sanction threats. The US hasn’t yet responded to the move, but officials have indicated they are willing to directly target EU companies who keep trading with Iran. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says he expects EU nations to back the US in killing the deal.
  8. Do you really need to be getting personal here? Do you think in Mat 5:25 Jesus say to a victim of a crime: "Come to terms quickly with criminals while you are on the way to court, or criminals may hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you will be thrown into prison." ?? You understand that, don't you?
  9. Do yoy think Jesus in Mat 5:40 say "If criminals wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat as well"? It means, criminals can sue a victim of a crime. And if criminals want to take his shirt, he must hand over them coat as well. And a victim should be grateful them that they want to hurt Do you think Jesus could taught us something like this?
  10. Are you not trying to prove that I must love satan, his children and those who happy when can hurt me? And are you not trying to say that if criminals want to take my shirt, I must hand over them coat as well? If I'm a victim of a crime I can't go to court? And don't you think I should be grateful them that they want to hurt me? So, what are you trying to tell me?
  11. What it proved is this: that I must love satan or his children? Those who shows no remorse for their crime and happy when can hurt me. What do you mean? Should I be grateful them that they want to hurt me? You think this is what Peter was talking about?
  12. In Matthew 5:39 Jesus say about litigation. 1) It is a particularly arbitrary form of individual justice, whereby the men of a family, clan, group or village act as judge, jury and executioner. 2) If you are a victim of a crime you must go to court. 3) And if plaintiff wants to sue you and to take your tunic, give him your coat also. Requires tunic - plaintiff Give him coat must - defendant Therefore, Jesus says: Matthew 5:25,26. In Matthew 5:39,40 Jesus say about litigation. 39 " But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” It is a particularly arbitrary form of individual justice, whereby the men of a family, clan, group or village act as judge, jury and executioner. If you are a victim of a crime you must go to court 40 "And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well." If plaintiff wants to sue defendant and to take his shirt, defendant must give him coat also. Jesus changes the commandment 38 "You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." But now "Two eyes for eye, and two teeth for tooth.".
  13. To be victim and edure is not to know God. Jesus never taught this. In Matthew 5:21,22 Jesus said: "who is angry with a brother will be subjected to judgment. And whoever insults a brother will be brought before the council, and whoever says ‘Fool’ will be sent to fiery hell.". "will be sent to fiery hell." this means put him to death. God, through the prophet Jeremiah and David stated: Jeremiah 22:3 "Thus says the Lord: Do justice and righteousness, and deliver from the hand of the oppressor him who has been robbed. And do no wrong or violence to the alien, the fatherless, and the widow, nor shed innocent blood in this place.". Jeremiah 22:26 "He judged the cause of the poor and needy; then it was well. Is not this to know me? says the Lord.". Psalm 82:3,4 "Judge the poor and fatherless: Do justice to the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the poor and needy: Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.". And Matthew 7:1,2 Jesus say: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." If you choose not to judge righteous judgment others you will be judged with the same measure you use. Because we must John: 7:24: "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment." More generally Jesus say, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. If you do not judge others, your heavenly Father will not be judge between you and your abuser. When people take a neutral stand between you and your abuser, they are in effect abandoning you. If you do not judge others, and you will not be judged. And that's bad. " Jesus say, better justice, when it is done than......... to be wronged.
  14. If you look at the whole chapter Matthew 5 you'll see that's not about we must forgive and love criminals. In Matthew 5:20 Jesus say, "For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven." In Matthew 5:21,22 Juses tightens the commandment "‘You shall not murder" In Matthew 5:21,22 Juses tightens the requirements on gift In Matthew 5:27,28 and 31,32 Juses tightens the commandment "‘You shall not commit adultery.’ In Matthew 5:33-37 Jesus tightens the requirements on oath. Attention! Follow the logic. In this verses 38-41 Jesus tightens the principle ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." Now "Two eyes for eye, and two teeth for tooth and coat for shirt.". For example: Exodus 21:18,19, “If people quarrel and one person hits another with a stone or with their fist[d] and the victim does not die but is confined to bed, the one who struck the blow will not be held liable if the other can get up and walk around outside with a staff; however, the guilty party must pay the injured person for any loss of time and see that the victim is completely healed. And Exodus 21:22,23, “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth." this principles call for the victim's right to reparation encompassed adequate, effective and prompt reparation proportional to the gravity of the violation and the harm suffered. But now "Two eyes for eye, and two teeth for tooth and coat for shirt." this principles call for the victim's right to reparation encompassed adequate, effective and prompt reparation disproportionate (in favour of a plaintiff) to the gravity of the violation and the harm suffered.
  15. The're taking the wrong side, because it is not.
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