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  1. Here are things that has been said, concerning scriptures: Amo 3:1-2 (1) Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, (2) You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. At the time this prophecy was given, Israel was the only (family (singular)) nation to be known of God, but the other (families) nations were not known of God. And what was said is that, it actually says the word "foreknown", rather than "known", in this scripture, thus they say that Israel was the only nation foreknown, or to be ever foreknown at any time, by God. But like I said it does not say the word "foreknown", but rather the word "known", and this is being say during Amos' days. And we know that at the time of the second coming, all the people that are left of the gentiles shall be saved, and of course the Jews also. Another scripture that is twisted is this one: Rom 8:28-30 (28) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (29) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. (30) Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. In this case, if we read the context, it is talking about "them that love God", which is any true believer. And then not long after it says the word "for", which points to what was previously mentioned. So it is them, that love God, who are foreknown, and predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son. But what they say this refers to, is Israel, and they completely ignore context here. Now we will go to another scripture: Rom 11:1-2 (1) I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. (2) God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Now the foreknown in this scripture, does refer to Israel, but in Romans 8, it is a totally different context, which in Romans 8, it refers to the church. And it is context that determines the meaning.
  2. Which most of these groups do focus too much on Israel, and of course there are people who do not focus enough on Israel of course.
  3. There well may be groups that are more scriptural, were they know that the holy feasts are not binding etc. But a lot of these groups, do go over board to were they say that all of the law should apply for today, the feasts and all. But what I am more concentrating on , is the ones who are starting to change scriptures that talk about the church, and changing it to refer to Israel, and focusing a little too much on Israel.
  4. Just looking into the fruits it produces.
  5. Thanks for replying Yown, good info, something to think about. Also is there anyone, that was once part of these type of movements, and now you have come out. How did it affect you while you were in it? Did it create a type of anger towards people if they did not see all things Jewish?
  6. Hello, is any body else seeing this? How of course there is replacement theology as regards, replacing the Jews with the church, but now I am starting to see some scriptures that talk about the church being turned into referring to Israel. It seems that some people who preach hard against replacement theology, sometimes go to far to were they end up on the other side of the coin. And some people go to far on all things Jewish. I might give examples of some scripture on this, but not now. And can people give examples of scripture that they see concerning this, and also concerning some of the most popular preachers or teachers that preach this stuff. I just finished reading a bit of stuff on Michael Rood. It is obvious that the Hebrews roots movement is not of God. I am asking these questions because of a concern I have, as regards a situation, which I will not divulge.
  7. The three ribs

    Nice one, thanks.
  8. Eternal Salvation?

    Rom 11:11 (11) I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Rom 11:20-22 (20) Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: (21) For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. (22) Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Being cut off, does mean to being cut off from God, and his salvation provisions. Me must continue in his goodness and not our boastful goodness, for salvation is in him, not in us. We must remain in the vine , otherwise all that pertains to salvation, with it's promises, gets cut off. You lose it all, and salvation is by grace through faith, from beginning to end, always looking to the finished work of the cross.
  9. Religion or Jesus

    Jas 1:21-22 (21) Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. (22) But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. There is a right way to receive the word of God, and it is through the means of meekness. And to have a proper relationship with him, we must come to him in humbleness and humility. The way of religion, will increase pride in a person's life, but the way of the cross, will cause someone to look to him, and see his continuous need for him.
  10. We serve a God that

    We serve a God that is holy.
  11. Test All Things In The Spirit

    1Co 2:13 (13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. To get understanding of the word, it is important to first of all pray to God for understanding and wisdom, and to compare the word with the word, which in time you will see the bigger picture. To test the spirits, you can know this in many ways, by the fruit this or that doctrine produces, and if it is compatible with the bible. You really need to know God's heart on the matter, his character, his ways. Pro 22:4 (4) By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.
  12. The three ribs

    As I think upon this more and more, it seems more feasible that the "they" that says to the beast, to devour much flesh, would be referring to the 4 winds, for it is the ribs that are being devoured. God bless Marilyn.
  13. Saturday or Sunday?

    How about a gentle dove.
  14. Is playing with dolls a sin?

    Well God knows the motives, and of course he gave us animals for companionship, but whether it be animals or robots, it still should never replace human inter action. I think that often times concerning the elderly, it is people that should be doing their job, in showing love towards these people, and I can understand their loneliness. I guess love needs to reign in us, love needs to reign in the church, it has to begin with the church I guess you can say.
  15. Is playing with dolls a sin?

    Now of course kids playing with dolls is fine, kids learn to grow through playing, and it eventually brings them in some manner to be who they are, as they grow in life. 1Co 13:11 (11) When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Now when we become men, we put away childish things, yes we can still play with our kids to a degree, but now we have become who we are, and we no longer play with toys like we did as a child. Now concerning getting real life size human dolls and babies dolls, in order to replace or substitute human companionship and having a baby, is not right, humans should never be substituted. We need human companionship, and God made us to have relations with our own kind. It really becomes an idol when we substitute things of such nature, with not relating to man. God wants us to love mankind, and not substitute mankind.