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cherubim

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  1. I'd like to say goodbye to some of the people I have met on this forum, and who prayed for me. I brought up a controversial topic about tares among the wheat, and was made fun of by Spock and Joshuatree. It was a hard topic to post on; they made it harder, Spock poking fun and saying we should make a list of the members who are tares, and Joshuatree saying something to the effect of how I knew I was the wheat. Any true believer knows who they are, and what happened to them, along with the corresponding verse. It was disrespectful and rude. It's a shame that this would be done on a Christian forum, and worse that a moderator would not correct those who would do this. It reminded me of a worldly church I was in, where preferential treatment was given to certain people in the church. My husband laughed when I told him about the two hecklers - he said they're no different than worldly people. I thought I had a lot of experience and wisdom to share, but I learned this Christian forum is worse than a non-Christian forum I had been on, sad to say. I am hurt and saddened that Christians would act this way, and a moderator would permit it. I have terminated my account. I wish you all the best in the coming times.
  2. You too. I appreciated bouncing off of you. I don't get out anymore, so I need the iron that sharpens iron.
  3. Great point!!! I guess it would be his place of choice. You have a good point, we should look within to search our heart to "see if there be any wicked way in me..." I guess looking within would be the wisest first course of action. I have seen satan use even Christians, and has probably used me at times. I wonder how he gains access to our thoughts - I've never read any good books about it, although I have read a number of spiritual warfare books. I know we are to take every thought captive. I think it's very hard to determine when it's wise to act and wise to not act. When speaking with another believer, you don't know where they're at spiritually. They may be leagues ahead of you in knowledge and wisdom, or leagues behind. I have a sister who told me with authority, that Christ already came back. She's a preterist. I never talk to her, but the last time I spoke with her, she had a well-laid-out argument, complete with bible verses, that Christ already came back. I didn't believe in what she did, but told her that maybe God gave her knowledge in that area, that he hasn't given me yet. I think the evil on is so subtle though, that he makes use of Christian's desire to be good, loving people. A lawyer we knew, made nasty cracks about other people's kids in the town we used to live in. I let it go, but finally told him it was known that his son was dealing drugs in the town. He hurled that "Christian" club at me, accusing me of being "unchristian." Yet not once did he face up to his pompous pointing the finger at everyone else's kid in the town.
  4. Yes - I hold to that verse at times- I had forgotten it. I think that was given because we are walking around in a land mine of people controlled by the evil one. I can usually discern someone in person pretty quickly. It's harder on a forum. I've been in the presence of evil people before. One time my husband & I were in the city, and walked into a store that had knick knacks or something in the window. When we walked in, I can't explain it, but I felt really uncomfortable. A black cat walked around the counter, and I glanced up at this wall in the back, with all these mannequin legs, heads, and arms sticking out of the wall in this long hallway. I looked around and saw several ungodly objects. I got my husband and walked out. So, as to those people, who were obviously involved in black arts, we should not be hateful to them, and I suppose prayer for their salvation would be in order. But if they went to a school board meeting and tried to get a false religion taught to the classroom, I think as Christians, we should oppose it. I see many Christians tripped up at this point, myself included. I have a friend who doesn't take action on anything. They just coast along and never speak up. I don't think God meant us to do that. I'm still working out what I think God wants of us. I see a lot of confusion among Christians on different issues.
  5. I don't know if that's a healthy stance to take. My views are always evolving as I'm given more light, but this is how I see it now. If you were in church, and knew someone who lived next door to you was involved in evil practices and they played up to and hoodwinked the pastor to teach the children's sunday school class, wouldn't you feel it your duty to tell the pastor what you know. People are so afraid to be seen as judgmental, that positive harm can sometimes happen.
  6. The way I have interpreted it, and I don't know if my way is even right, but scripture states to love our enemies, but to what it extent we don't know. The false Christians who started their own church did a lot of damage to people's faith, the pastor told us. So when everyone was busy loving them, maybe they should have been exposing them.
  7. It's love our brother - I interpret that to mean fellow believers, not those from the evil one.
  8. I never looked into the meaning, now that you mention it. I just assumed at face value, they were satan's children, planted among God's.
  9. Yes, I'm learning that - I should have been more vigilant.
  10. Yes - I'm learning that. I was never on a Christian forum before, even though I'm older.
  11. I couldn't put my finger on it. I just felt they were insincere. They did things that were worldly, such as on Christmas, everyone bought a gift, and a table would be called, and would go up and select a gift from the stage. When their table was called, they almost knocked others down in their rush to get to the stage to grab all the big gifts. I just put together things like that I saw them do. I had also been warned about them by a friend - but my husband liked them. I had been a believer longer than my husband, and he didn't have the same discernment. The pastor finally left the church, and agreed to talk to us before he left. What an earful - they were every bit the terrible people that I'd discerned they were.
  12. Yes it does, therein lies some discernment. It also tells us to "shake the dust off our feet" when dealing with certain people. I think we are to love them, but be very cautious with them. It's a tough topic. I think evil has a way of using our "Christian love" against us. If you stand against evil, you are accused of being "unchristian"! AARRGGHH! Not that terrible word! Forgive me, oh I'm so sorry! I should have not questioned you when you told me Allah is the true God! How unloving of me!!! This is how I've seen evil overcome good people. We don't want to be accused of being unloving and unchristian.
  13. I agree with your point of view. I learned this awhile back when a supposed "Christian family" started their own church. I never felt comfortable around them. Later, my discomfort was substantiated.
  14. But not everyone is "our brother." Some are from the evil one.
  15. I think people can be misjudged, but we're told to use discernment. "By their fruits..." and "...have their senses trained by reason of use..."
  16. I have suspected twice there are tares among the wheat here. One person claimed to be the Holy Spirit, and another twisted scripture. I believe it's imperative to exercise discernment, even here. I started a post where an individual that I believe is a tare took scripture and twisted it to suit his interpretations. I asked the forum owner to remove the thread due to the topic getting too controversial with that person. We need to be cognizant that even though this is a Christian forum, tares may be among us. Remember, tares can quote scripture, but we need to exercise discernment to recognize the subtle misuse of scripture - "...Rightly dividing the Word of Truth..." The good news is that there is an abundance of wheat here. Never forget they there is a wily one, who has planted tares, in churches, in communities, on forums... Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
  17. I have suspected twice there are tares among the wheat here. One person claimed to be the Holy Spirit, and another twisted scripture. I believe it's imperative to exercise discernment, even here. I started a post where an individual that I believe is a tare took scripture and twisted it to suit his interpretations. I asked the forum owner to remove the thread due to the topic getting too controversial with that person. We need to be cognizant that even though this is a Christian forum, tares may be among us. Remember, tares can quote scripture, but we need to exercise discernment to recognize the subtle misuse of scripture - "...Rightly dividing the Word of Truth..." The good news is that there is an abundance of wheat here. Never forget they there is a wily one, who has planted tares, in churches, in communities, on forums... Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
  18. I'm glad it worked out for you. It's a hard thing - knowing God's Word is true, yet facing unanswered prayer. I don't know what the right attitude to take is. I guess time will tell.
  19. That's an intelligent take on it. I suppose God will make things clear in His time. I hit times where I've prayed for things so many times, and the answer hasn't come, so I wonder if I should I keep praying, or decide that I've prayed enough? It's a stumbling block, and I'm unsure of the answer. Nothing jumps out at me as the right action to take.
  20. I do keep a journal, exactly as you stated - with a line for the date it was answered. If God waits until my daughter is 60, she'll never have a child. That is too hard for me to bear. God knows this.
  21. I often pray multiple times when I ask God to answer a specific prayer request. In some instances I have prayed for years, and no answer came. There is the parable of the unjust judge, which is to serve as a reminder to us to continue petitioning God for an answer until it comes. Sometimes this seems a futile waste of energy which also brings the grief and heartbreak of unanswered prayers. It would seem that God is cruel, when we are told in Scripture to be persistent. I don't like when some fancy preacher showboats and insists someone's leg has grown two inches, or other unproven results. I like to know that it was really God that answered the prayer. I recall one time I was going through a terrible ordeal, and God didn't answer my cry for help. I spoke with a young mother who blustered at how "God had brought their family a dog!" That really hurt. Here I was going through a hellish ordeal, and I'm supposed to believe that God sent a dog to that family when I had serious unmet needs? God said He desires truth in our inmost being, and I always remind Him of this when I express how much I've been disappointed, and how I don't like the way He has let the evil in this world to continue it's downward spiral, and how I don't agree with Him that He's let evildoers off the hook. I'd like to know how long others pray for a specific request before throwing in the towel.
  22. I too hate snakes - they remind me of the evil one. I don't know about them thinking and reasoning, but a certain amount of thinking goes into their quest for food, and avoidance of people. I read in one of Mark Bubeck's books, that a man oppressed by satan sometimes made him hiss like a snake. That's pretty sinister.
  23. What you stated is only your interpretation. None of us can presume or claim to speak for God or as the final authority on biblical interpretation. "Through presumption comes nothing but strife." I know the context in which David said those prayers, and some very serious things are done in this life, in which holding someone accountable can't be done legally, but the evil was indeed great and caused much harm. I know what happened to Stephen, and how he prayed. What of the verse in Timothy: "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil, the Lord reward him according to his works." That doesn't sound like he prayed for Alexander to be blessed as you stated Christians should do. I think it's such a hard issue, that over-simplifying can, and does, cause additional harm to those already harmed. I've seen believers behave with condemnation to other believers, telling them they must forgive; adding injury to an already injured person. I've seen a lot through the years. I'm uncertain what God wants us to do, and at this point, I'm going to keep reading the bible and staying open to whatever God may teach me.
  24. You gave me a good laugh! Very unique way of handling anger!
  25. Thank you - I love that verse in Revelations. I used to listen to it on CD all the time.
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