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  1. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    I've asked a simple question about what our first act of Faith is to answer the call of the Father, at the start of our. salvation journey. I've got no answers so I must be the only one interested in this topic. Sorry for wasting your time.
  2. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    We don't need to discover any new truths, we need to rediscover the old truths!
  3. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    What is Faith? And how is it fulfilled specifically in relation to Christ? A different way to ask the same question.
  4. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Is this an excuse not to answer the question in my last post?
  5. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Everything you posted belongs to the ones who have already been accepted, and have been sealed with the Spirit of Christ. I'm attempting to focus on the transitioning of the called out one going from Rom. 8:9 ,( not having the Spirit of Christ) and what " Faith looks like that starts the journey to being sealed with the Spirit of Christ. I'll try to be more specific. 1) the Grace Christ gave to us as the result of His Faith makes Salvation possible, through Faith, our Faith! 1) The first thing that must happen in the Salvation journey is the Father calls out people to Christ. 2) the called out one then responds with a mental turning of the mind, ( repentance). Turning in the mind from our way to His way. 3) after the call, and the turning in our mind, the called out one takes their first step of Faith, ( specifically pisteuo ) towards Christ. My question to the group is . What specifically is involved in the taking of the first step of Faith in relation to Christ? Remembering, at this beginning stage of the Salvation process, we don't have the Spirit of Christ yet. So Christ, His word, and His promises in His Word are not ours yet either.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Who ever said "Faith or faithing, pistis or pisteuo" must be perfect? Only the Faith and faithing, pistis and pisteuo of Christ is perfect. That is how His Grace came to be the free gift, something only Hecan do. Our Faith and faithing, pistis and pisteuo can only be genuine at best, especially at the beginning of the Salvation journey.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Grace is the gift , and the ability to chose who or what we will serve is a gift also. But Faith applied is a verb, an act , based upon a belief, sustained by confidence. In relationship to God it's a specific act, based upon a specific belief, sustained by a specific kind of confidence. Does anyone have the desire to know what that is ?
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    In the Greek pistis is Faith, pisteuo is the application of Faith to a specific object of Faith. The problem is pisteuo couldn't be translated into the English language.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    There's no such thing as " believing" in Christ for Salvation. The words believe, believer, and believing are mistranslations of the Greek word pisteuo. Pisteuo couldn't be correctly translated into the English language, because the English language has no coresponding verb to the noun Faith like the Greek does to the word Pistis. The Greek language doesn't even have a word for our English words believe, believer, and believing. The reason why? Because the Greek is very specific the most precise language on the planet. In the Greek Faith towards God or anything is always " pisteuo" moving towards God, or " apisteuo" moving away from God. They don't acknowledge any middle ground or neutral state of being. So there's alot to unlearn and talk about. But that can only happen if someone is willing.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Trust and belief are a part of what saving Faith is. But taken on their own is error. Even trust and belief together is error. Abrahams Faith wasn't in God's words or promises ( like todays church world), it was in " God HIMSELF." There's a huge difference, the difference between the wide and narrow path.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Well you are claiming the Spirit of Christ, Christ, His word,and the promises in His word before you have the Spirit of Christ in you. If we could agree that this part of your understanding isn't correct, we could look at what I think is correct. But you have to be courageous, humble and honest to continue, can you do that? Is the chance to know Christ better worth that?
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Ya that's a given! But we're discussing when and how the Faith life, in relationship with Christ begins. What's your understanding?
  13. faither 2

    What is your understanding of Faith?

    At the start of the Salvation journey, we don't have the Spirit of Christ yet. So Christ, His word, and the promises in His word are not ours yet. Rom. 8:9 So " Faith " must be something other than claiming any of those things , correct? In your understanding, your claiming Christ, His word, and His promises, even His Spirit, and none of those things are ours at the beginning of the Salvation journey. All that is happening is we have been called by the Father to Christ. ( Nobody comes to Christ unless the Father draws or calls them ) So I'm not seeing how claiming things that are not ours yet can be the " correct understanding of Faith". Especially, at the start of our journey.
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    Ok. In your understanding, God's word produces " Faith". What is Faith exactly? What specifically is God's word producing?
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    What is your understanding of Faith?

    We might have to figure another way. I don't see where I can PM you here. Maybe because I'm a newbie here.
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