Prophet of change Lou L

DELIVERANCE, TONGUES AND THE CONTROVERSY To say deliverance and tongues is controversial is a under statement. Most things of the Spirit are as well. Most of theologies are based more on ones own experience or lack thereof as opposed to the understanding of scripture. Its been said the man with a theory is at the mercy of a man with a experience. For someone to try to convince me that being born again isn't real because they have seen and heard so much falsehood, they couldn't convince me it wasn't. and so it is with my experience of the gifts of the Spirit In John ch. 9- we see the experience of a man who was born blind in confrontation with the Pharisees and there theories. These theories were based on there knowledge of scripture. they even say they trust the words of Moses more then this mans testimony of healing. Even to calling the mans parents, in hopes of them telling them that the man wasn't born blind. They were furious that there long held beliefs were being challenged. What really tick them of was Jesus performed this miracle on the Sabbath. There is a group of well meaning and concerned Christians who are reluctant to accept some of these spiritual experiences deliverance and tongues at the top of the list. These have legitimate concern as there is much error and falsehood when it comes to these things. But please don't throw out the baby with the bath water. My over 40 yrs. experience in these things has been one of some truly awesome and spiritual and Jesus uplifting up times, but there has been some things that were surely not of the Spirit of God and i confess i was guilty of some. Jesus confirms His word with signs following. When His word is used to contrive signs you have contrived signs and those should defiantly be rejected. But to limit God to our own experience or to say others have to match mine is error. We are instructed to measure the fruit of ones life and not there gifts or even there calling, they are given with out repentance. Every work or even experience including my statement here will be tried by fire and i fear not the enemy or falsehood but the cleansing fire of the Holy Spirit. We will be tested and what will remain will be fruit, now abides faith, hope, and love, the reason i fear is i am not perfected in Love. Perfect Love cast out fear and my prayer is to walk in it apart from my lack of experience or my lack of any knowledge i have acquired. If ive learned anything it is i have so much more to learn and His Word is the text book and His Spirit is the teacher. There is no reason for our enemy to contrive signs if he didn't fear the One who does the TRUE signs JESUS! the same yesterday, today, and forever!

Hello and welcome to worthy! Thanks for your testimony and may God continue to bless you and your family. Praise the Lord!

1 cor. 12;12-22 12 For even as the body is one and yet has many members, and all the members of the body, though they are many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For [j]by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many. 15 If the foot says, “Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason [k]any the less a part of the body. 16 And if the ear says, “Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason [l]any the less a part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. 19 If they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now there are many members, but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; or again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 On the contrary, [m]it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary;

Praying for this situation and hoping for the Love of our heavenly father to prevail in Jesus name!

AMEN! 1 COR.2-6-8 6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; 8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory;

Amen to simplejeff as well thank you both!

Amen FresnoJoe!

My opinion here but i believe the only thoughts he can know are the ones he has planted.

Amen!

Agree with Yowm Pharaohs magicians could not create exodus 8-16-19 The Plague of Insects 16 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Say to Aaron, ‘Stretch out your staff and strike the dust of the earth, that it may become gnats through all the land of Egypt.’” 17 They did so; and Aaron stretched out his hand with his staff, and struck the dust of the earth, and there were gnats on man and beast. All the dust of the earth became gnats through all the land of Egypt. 18 The magicians tried with their secret arts to bring forth gnats, but they could not; so there were gnats on man and beast. 19 Then the magicians said to Pharaoh, “This is the finger of God.” But Pharaoh’s heart was hardened, and he did not listen to them, as the Lord had said. This would be the place Paul was refurring to in 2 tim. 3. Our enemy is a illutionist not a realist. Our protection from his deception is in the name thats above every name our Lord Jesus Christ.

(Great scriptures) Also in exodus chs. 7-8-9 we see Pharaohs magicians doing signs but they could not do what Moses and Arron were capable of thru the power of God. Paul refers to this in 2 timothy ch3-vrs.7-8. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9 But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also. Satan does have a conterfit but the power of God thru Jesus christ and His anointed Word thru His followers will expose these lies with the Truth! There is much to be said on this subject as the new testament is filled with warnings of false teaching and false signs in the days we now live. We must take heart as the Lord has told us that nothing can seperate us from His Love. The enemies of God in moses day were exposed by the greater power which is Gods power. In our Day these deceptions will be exposed by the power of God in the Name of Jesus! When the enemy comes in like a flood the Spirit of the Lord will raise up a standard against him.

Thanks for the update praising the Lord for such great news. What a mighty Savior we serve!

Amen! Praying for the freedom that only Jesus can bring. He came to set the captives free! Praying for your friend that God would protect and keep in Jesus name!

PRAISE THE LORD JESUS!

Not disagreeing with you missmuffett. Have respected all of your posts and always look forward to what you have to say. Having heart trouble and totally dependent on docters and pharmacist. Deliverance isnt always beeing totally free of the circumstances. And deliverance not always casting out a demon but dealing with those things that we must endure in this fallen world the prince of this world is very real and would rather he not be recognizsed in any situation the truth is it can be physical as well as spiritual but hes the cause of both. Jesus went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed of the devil Acts 10-38. Pray to God for the day when all His enemys are the footstool of His feet and death is swallowed up in victory. Hoping we can agree to disagree a little bit on this one.