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  1. The Quran and the Bible -- revelations of God - PART 1/2

    Our Islamic friend has conveniently ignored the scripture in Revelation that curses anyone adding or detracting from the Word of God. By definition, therefore, any further revelation does NOT come from Yahweh. The Mormons tried this in the late 1800's and it did not work then either. When we look at history, Islam has advanced only at the point of a sword, while Christianity has advanced upon the blood of martyrs who did not give up their faith in Jesus. In many cases, not all, such martyrdom was at the hands of the Islamists who were cleansing the earth, not in the name of Jesus, but in the name of Allah.
  2. Why is accountability not a bad thing?

    My Dear Sister, Even the natural world is accountable. Take the Law of Gravity for instance. Those who choose to ignore it or disbelieve it are doomed to a life of pain....or a very short life at the end of a very long fall. If you drop a hammer in the vicinity of your feet, but do not believe in gravity, you will undoubtedly feel pain in a second when the hammer smashes your toe. If you take a step off a high cliff, whether you believe in gravity or not, gravity will cause consequences that are pretty much irreparable. Now whether you stepped off the cliff accidentally or because of one of your urges, gravity will hold you accountable for what happens next. As others have stated very eloquently, God is the same. Whether you believe in Him or not, He believes in you and He chose to hold Himself accountable for you in His Word, the Bible. He made an offer to you of His only Son, so that you could be free from accountability to sin and death. Those who believe in Jesus give up their accountability to death (separation from God for eternity) in order to exchange it for accountability to Jesus Christ (who is life for eternity). Yes, it means there are things you no longer do. But it also means that by confessing your sin and guilt, Jesus can wash it away and apply His righteousness so that you are no longer guilty. As Scripture says, He removes sins away from us as far as the East is from the West. Soooooo, if you really want to be free from sin and guilt, the eternal way to do it is to accept Jesus and choose to be accountable to Him.
  3. Is there any arguments (Besides the bible) against Gay Rights?

    As others have said, this is a place where we operate from the foundation of the Bible, or as some would put it, religion. It is easy to judge religion and the Word of God harshly in the area of homosexuality because the Bible repeatedly condemns it and the New Testament even has verses that indicate homosexuals are destined for hell. To those who are not saved, this sounds harsh. It is. But do not ascribe to individual Christians the judgments contained in the Bible. Just because the Bible says someone is a sinner does not mean that I do not love them. For the individual Christian, our mandate is to love whoever. If "whoever" is in sin, we are to love the sinner and hate the sin they commit. At some point the Christian may have to stop relating to a sinner in order to avoid sin themselves. But the Christian is NEVER called to hate the sinner. The whole discussion of "equal rights" lies outside of the Word of God. The word of God does not preach equal rights. As a Christian, blood bought, obedient and serving God to the best of my ability, the Word calls me a peculiar person. In fact, I can make a case that I am God's favorite son. But then if you are born again and obedient, then you are God's favorite son too. You see, God is big enough to have lots of favorite sons. Equal rights is a construct of modern society that demands everyone recognize traits and behaviors in people. At this point, we refer not to the Word of God, but to the Constitution. Since the Constitution dictates every man is equal, we must grant those "citizens" of our country equal rights. Now things become sticky because when the Constitution was written, things like marriage were NOT considered subject to the Constitution. Marriage was considered a function of faith, not government. To Christians nowdays, that is still the case. Unfortunately, the government asserted control over marriage and now it has become a construct of government subject to the equal rights provisions of the Constitution. The problem, of course, is that ours is the first generation to "allow" marriage to become something other than between a man and a woman. Homosexuality has existed for thousands of years but no society, until now, has ever recognized homosexual relationships as integral and beneficial to society. No homosexual relationship has ever produced a child to add to the population of society. Homosexual relationships have historically NOT been monogomous, which is clearly in contrast with traditional marriage (though infidelity has existed and does exist in heterosexual marriages). The point is that non-monogomous activity has not added positive things to any society. Equal rights in a society are also an economic term. If you produce in society, then nobody really cares about your sexual or religious proclivities. As we discovered with the affirmative action issue, giving an advantage based upon race does not lead to more equal opportunity; it merely makes the situation worse. As long as equal rights is an economic term, then it is manageable in society. When equal rights becomes an emotional issue, then people consider themselves agrieved and demand recompense....or reparations. In fact, what our society has degenerated into is a plethora of tribal entities all demanding "their rights". The trouble is, if you evaluate them against the constitution, they all have the same basic rights as the rest of society. Their grief is with a specific portion of the Constitution or what they believe is a specific item that was overlooked. The gay marriage approval, given by a rogue Supreme Court was adjusting the definition of marriage based upon only 3% of the population. That is inherently wrong. The non-Bible argument against LGBTQ is biological because they cannot reproduce naturally; nor can a transgender person change their DNA, so even if a girl becomes a boy, she still has female DNA.
  4. Gap In My Heart feels like sadness

    Mattman, I am very impressed that you have identified your issue as a "sadness hat touches your heart on a deeper level". You are correct in asking if it is something that you may be missing. I agree with the answers others have given in this area. However, you may not have done anything wrong! This "sadness of heart" may be the Lord leading you into a deeper life of intercession for those who experience great sadness. God may be calling you into a prayer ministry of burden bearing. Let me explain. God chooses His burden bearers very carefully. Burden bearing is a special brand of praying where one person "takes on the burdens" of another person through prayer for the specific purpose of that person being able to hear from and receive Jesus. So person A, the burden bearer, prays for person B in such a way as to lift person B's burdens from them. This allows person B to focus soley upon Jesus. Person A, the burden bearer, then takes B's burdens to the cross and deposits them there. Often the burden bearer will feel person A's pain and suffering as a result. There is nothing wrong, the burden bearer is taking pain away from person B so they can concentrate on getting saved or hearing from God. This is very specialized intercession and it is very easy to mess up. As a burden bearer myself, sometimes I take on another persons burdens and then carry them too long or not long enough. This is where burden bearers learn by trial and error. The worst thing is for me to take on another's burdens and then get my own mixed up with them. If you are sure your relationship with Jesus is ok, then this deep sadness may be God calling you to intercede and burden bear for another person. Who do you know that is sad? Who do you know that is in deep trouble? Perhaps you are feeling some of their burden and God is calling you to help them through your deep intercession.
  5. How exactly does God discipline us?

    God, in His word, has laid out the standards for our behavior. In Deuteronomy 28, He laid out the blessings we would receive for obeying His Word. Then He laid out the curses if we did not obey His Word. A careful reading of Deut. 28 will give an individual a good idea of what to expect for obedience and disobedience. But we live after Christ died for us, so we are in the age of grace. However, sin is still sin, and God has NOT changed His stance on sin. So when one of His children disobeys, we activate the curses of the law. Since Jesus paid for those curses, we have grace made available to us, IF we repent of our sin. If we do not repent, then the curses of the law (laid out by God) are allowed to happen to us. While it is NOT God directly punishing us, it IS Him indirectly because we activated the disobedience clauses of the law. NOw, if we repent, Jesus' blood washes us and we are restored to righteousness (I John 1:9). But often sin has physical consequences. These consequences can be physical, mental, emotional, etc. Depending upon the sin, God allows the consequences of that sin to bring us pain. By this pain we learn obedience. God loves us, so He won't put trials on us that are too hard for us. Remember that discipline is not always as a result of mistakes. Paul talks about a runner training for a race. He disciplines himself in certain ways so that he may physically compete at a higher level. If we want to become more godly, our discipline may include hours of bible study and hours of prayer. As we become more knowledgeable of God, we become aware of the function of the Holy Spirit. When we connect with the Holy Spirit, there may be other disciplines we learn to become more like Christ. So, just as others have said, discipline depends upon the sin and sometimes upon the mission to which God has called us. When we are young in Christ, we learn more through the pain of our mistakes. As we learn and mature, God then disciplines us by teaching and training methods because we no longer need punishment type discipline. This discipline is highly individual. For you, He may have called you to a ministry that requires that you not drink alcohol in order to execute your calling. I might be called in a different area and be "disciplined" go give up television to achieve what God has for me.
  6. Many needs of people are not met in church

    Bride of Christ, You are exactly right. I have a lady in our church who has the exact same view. Unfortunately, depending upon the size of your body of believers, often there is not enough surplus to reach outside the doors of the church. After all, we are supposed to look after those "in" the Body of Christ first....and oftentimes there is not even enough to go around for them either. You are correct that judgment is building against churches who are not doing all that you said. But step back a moment and let me provide some perspective based upon what happens in my church. My church is less than 500 members, so it is not a large church. We are new there so I do not know all of their outreaches. Yet they just had a sort of service day where they gave away about 500 backpacks with school supplies. At the same time the did oil changes, haircuts, makeup and as many other things as they could on this day. They also preached the gospel while the people were there. About 25 souls were saved, yet the unmet needs in our local community still exist. We have a Christian school and I know we provide housing for a few needy people. Then the resources run out and the needs to do not....and THAT is the crux of your question. What do we do? First, we pray. We see the need, we are responsible to ask God to meet the need. And when I say pray, I mean deep intercession where we learn what the need is, why it is there and begin to pray against the roots of society that created the need. For example, we have people nearby our church that live in tents in forested lots. We do not have resources for them, but there IS a spiritual and physical root to that problem. We need to ask God to provide jobs and low cost living options. After prayer, if the burden is still on our hearts, we need to begin collecting information on city, county, state and federal programs that may be available for assistance to the needs we see. We must extend ourselves IF God has placed that burden on us. If God has not placed that burden on us, we pray for God to send those with finances, a calling and energy enough to take on that burden. Finally, if we find no help available, God may be calling us to be that divine representative. We may have to develop an outreach, a ministry. We may have to fill out the papers for federal or state help. We may be hearing God's voice for US to be the action leader. If this is the case, take your burden to your pastor and ask him to help you determine if you really are hearing God's call. Then begin to ask your friends to pray for your burden, for your guidance and for your prosperity as you take on this ministry. DO NOT do like the lady in my church with the same burden. She goes from one person to another in the congregation and makes the needs known, THEN she complains that nobody in leadership is listening or even desiring to help meet the needs she sees. She brings accusations against leadership of the church and does not seem to have any respect for any meeting or any group, only her own agenda. This sows discord in the church and it does not meet the needs. So she comes off looking like a false prophet/teacher/advocate and everybody ignores her (which they should do), but the sad thing is....the needs she advocates for are real and need to find an advocate within the church. What do I do? I pray the lord of the harvest to send workers into the field, for the fields are white unto harvest. What does this actually mean? It means that if you take up a ministry in the name of Jesus and glorify Him, your ministry WILL NOT fail!!! Praise Jesus!!! So, ask God to give you discernment....you may be receiving your Divine Call to service Blessings
  7. Agape Love

    This is a very interesting question. If we look at the example of Jesus during his trials before He was crucified, we find Him responding with Truth to their questions. They were so filled with hate and rage, yet He faced them and did not back down. But He did NOT "go off" on them, when He had every right to do so. At His trial with Pontius Pilate, a foreign (Roman) governor, Jesus kept speaking back to Pilate, giving answers that were designed to move Pilate in the direction of faith. Pilate's wife told him to have nothing to do with Jesus, and yet Pilate was intrigued by the innocence, purity and strength of Jesus. Even suffering beatings and torture did not change Jesus' attitude or focus. Later, on the cross, suffering crucifixion, He even spoke kindly to one of the thieves, despite the cost to speak in His own pain. On the cross, Jesus asked the Father to forgive them. In these instances we see Jesus so focused on His mission, His purpose that nothing, not even torture and torment could stop Him. Hebrews says He looked forward to the cross with joy. Since we are supposed to be like Jesus. Our focus is on our mission, to spread the Good News about Jesus. Yes, it is going to get us tortured, tormented and even killed, but why should we expect any treatment better than our Savior? So, when we look at believers or non-believers, our focus should be on discerning what we can say or do to move them closer to Jesus. Some days we will see non-believers saved. Other days, we will only plant a seed for God's Holy Spirit to nurture. When we look at others, we look at them, as much as we can as Jesus would. So color, creed, race or even religion should not even enter our minds. But I am an American Christian and I do not even have a clue about those who suffer persecution, trial, torture and death in Islamic countries and never deny Jesus. Their faith is going to be rewarded by God Himself. All around the world, the end time persecution of believers has already begun. Here in America, we are still safe, yet we need to make a specific determination now that we are NOT going to deny Jesus if and when persecution comes. Agape love is the God kind of love. It is not natural to us. We need to focus so much on God that our praise and worship draw His limitless Agape love all over us, almost as if we were being baptized and then marinated in His love. When we have this kind of a presence with us, we become unstoppable for Jesus. Blessings
  8. Hell

    One thing we must first recognize is that God never created Hell for human beings. He created Hell for the devil and all the rebellious angels. Jesus referred to hell indirectly as "outer darkness". Deuteronomy 32:22 indicates that there are levels of hell and that it is a place of fire. Psalm 9 says that the wicked will be sent there along with nations that forget God. Psalm 18 speaks of the sorrows of hell. Psalm 116 speaks of the pains of hell. Revelation speaks of a bottomless pit where there is lots of smoke and normal sun and light are blotted out. So if we take an overall look, we come away with a place where God is not. It is a dark and smoky place where there is pain and sorrow.
  9. Slavery in the bible

    There have been many good questions raised in this thread. I do not pretend to have all the answers, but perhaps my comments may provide some clarity. As one writer mentioned, we are all slaves to sin and the sin nature. Apart from Christ, we are bound for judgment. If you have problems with this, then you will have problems with pretty much everything God laid out in the Bible, so the real issue is not slavery but God's Sovereignty. That I leave to your own personal spirit and to God. We must also recognize that slavery is NOT a monolithic concept, meaning the same in every contextual use of the word. While slavery existed in all historical eras, we have different forms of it, as outlined in previous posts. In every case, slavery was basically a form of economic power. A slave, whether a Hebrew under Pharoah, or a Greek tutor under a Roman Senator, provided some form of economic benefit to the owner. In the case of Hebrew slaves under Pharoah, the entire thrust of the slavery was to control an entire group of people and to keep them for the economic benefit of the nation. History records that working conditions were very hard and sometimes lethal. In comparison, the Greek tutor has "sold" himself to a Roman family to provide education to the family of his master. The benefits are not strictly economic, but the treatment of the tutor is much different since a good tutor becomes "like" a part of the family. In this case, physical abuse is not typically called for. However, the ownership is just as sure. The argument that God regulated slavery, primarily applied to its use within the Hebrew nation. And, although it was an economic benefit, its primary function was that Hebrews would not sell themselves as slaves to people outside the Hebrew nation. One previous writer noted that those who had fallen into poverty could "obligate" themselves to a kinsman or relative. According to the law, every 50 years the slaves were to be released and their historic land holdings restored. There were specific rules for "buying out" the slave contract (bad term) and, if a person did not want to be free, it was "their" option to be bound forever as property. This is a key difference in "slavery" in Hebrew society. In fact most societies had their own rules for freeing slaves. IN THIS CONTEXT, God sanctioned slavery. And slavery, IN THIS CONTEXT, was sanctioned throughout the Old Testament. Beginning with Jesus and His teachings, the concept of true freedom came into existence. With His sacrificial death to set the "slaves of sin" free, a new era was born. Souls in Christ were truly free spiritually regardless of physical station in life. The actual practice of slavery was common (please note I did not say justified or right). As Paul returned a slave to his owner in the book of Philemon, the issue of slavery was discussed thoroughly, though not in secular terms. Paul, who claimed to be a slave (bondservant) himself, placed the physical state of slavery on an equal status with being free, because Paul saw the greater spiritual principle overrode the secular principle. God cares about the souls of men most of all. It is this perspective that provides us with a basis for faith...the fact that God has elevated the souls of man to the status of sending His Only Begotten Son to die for them to provide them eternal life. While the Bible does not specifically speak against slavery, it also does not speak against communism, socialism, capitalism or any other "-isms" you might care to name. Why? Because all of them are man-made systems that were created by men using their free will. God laid out His form of government in the Old Testament. He did not endorse any other form of government, yet the New Testament says to pray for our leaders in several places. Slavery, as we have come to know it, is horrible. It is condemned on its own lack of merit without Biblical standards being applied. When we apply Biblical standards to it, we find fault with those who use/d slavery with sin and malice in their heart. But let us consider the historical context for slavery. When Caesar was conquering France, he funded his campaigns, built his riches and paid his troops through the sale of millions of slaves. That is not approval, just historical fact. When Islam was born, it used its captives as slaves, again historical fact, not approval. The concept of slavery has been around almost since Adam and Eve. For that matter, so has money. Yet the root of all evil is the "love of money". Since God is sovereign, He is allowed to condone or not condone slavery. He intervened miraculously to indicate His divine displeasure with the Egyptians. We, as created beings, need to give Him glory for what He has provided us through Christ, and then pray for the end of such practices as slavery, trafficking, etc. Those things are not the result of God's inattention, they are the result of men giving into evil and disobedient ways. That's why He enlisted us as His arms, legs and voices, to preserve the world and to free the captive as He stated in Isaiah 61. Blessings
  10. Is Muhammad the Comforter (paraclete)

    Though this question has been answered to death, I have one perspective not yet covered: When Jesus arose from the dead and ascended to heaven, according to Acts 2, the Holy Spirit fell in miraculous signs and wonders. Today, when we visit the tomb of Jesus, it is an empty one. No one has ever found Jesus' body....which is appropriate since He physically resurrected. When Muslims make their annual pilgrimage to Mecca, they visit the tomb of the Prophet Mohammed; that tomb is NOT empty. How can Modammed be dead and yet serve as the Comforter to all believers? I suspect the book that was read WAS compelling, but it was not truth, nor was it based upon the Bible, the Word of God. While it is okay for a Christian to study topics like this, one must remember that each believer is first responsible to be secure in their own relationship to Jesus BEFORE looking at other doctrines and religious mumbo-jumbo. Blessings.
  11. I fear Transhumanism the Future!

    For all of its bravado and promises, technology has yet to devise a means to transfer the soul from one place to another, let alone from a human body to a robot. I agree that an eternity in a robot body would be like hell, because I would be separated from that which makes me...well me. My spirit and my soul would not transfer and thus be doomed to roam the universe in search of a body (oh, no...zombie apocalypse....LOL). Seriously, we are supposed to "be careful for nothing". All of this science fiction and science fact and science promises is good to think about and even debate. But at the end of the day, Jesus is still Lord AND He is still coming again. For me, He can't come to soon...if only to take me out of all of this madness.
  12. Agree to disagree - is wrong.

    On the salvation issues, I agree with Cobalt1959 and OneLight. However, Marilyn C was speaking of our dealings with atheists and other non-believers. Romans 12:18 says, " If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. " Since "all men" most likely includes atheists, non-believers and other assorted miscreants, I believe "agree to disagree" would be appropriate. Our agreement extends only to the topic we disagree about and in no way obligates us to any worldly doctrine or heresy. At least by being agreeable, we sow the seed for future discussions at which time we plant another seed for Jesus. While man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, we have been given dominion over words, so we should be able to use them however we see fit to give glory to God and promote the Kingdom.
  13. No one is hardwired to sin

    I think the term "hardwired" represents some semantics. According to Romans, "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". All means all. That means new-born babies have sinned. As it says elsewhere, we are born into sin. While there is grace for those too young to understand their sin, nevertheless all have sinned. That means that none of us get a pass. As we grow older, we become aware that our choices can be obedience or disobedience. Disobedience leads us into sin. Obedience leads us away from sin and toward Jesus. However, we can become so practiced at sin that it becomes a stream of iniquity that we no longer have to "choose" to do...we have developed a propensity to sin. Further sin in this area leads to the development of a curse, most likely a generational one where we pass our sin nature in specific areas down to our children (Deut.5:9,10). If I find someone that appears "hardwired" for sin, I assume I am dealing with a generational curse that the individual may not even be aware of.
  14. What is Prophecy?

    In my experience, New Testament prophecies and prophets are given for the edification and encouragement of the body. At times, under the direction of the Holy Spirit, this may include predictive statements. But, in general, a New Testament prophet is one who encourages and builds up.
  15. What is free will really, what does it mean to have free will?

    While it is true that God created Lucifer, it does NOT follow that God created sin. Lucifer appropriated for himself, that which belonged to God and it was his pride that led to his downfall. At that time, apparently, angels had some form of choice or free will because 1/3 of the entire universe of angels chose to follow Satan. God cast them out of heaven and prepared the Lake of Fire for them to reside during eternity. Now, I am not theologian enough to argue the fine points of God creating sin, but I agree with those who indicate that there is NO sin in God. Man, having been given free will, does have the authority to either agree with God's plan or disagree with it and disobey it. It is wrong to assume that God already knows what we will do, so we don't really have any choices. We can continually choose wrong and God's grace has still provided a way back through Christ....until the fullness of time when He closes the door on the Age of grace, then the Blood of Christ will have had its full effectiveness. At that time, there will only be judgment left to those who have not believed. Since God has given man free will, to me that means each day I have a choice to obey God or disobey God. My choices are based upon what God is doing in my heart. If I am growing in faith, then my choices will agree with His Word and His Will and I reap the benefits of obedience. If not, I reap the consequences of disobedience. God's grace and foreknowledge allow me the freedom to make those choices (or not) so that from my perspective, each day is a new experience. If I become to dogmatic about predestination, then I become the opposite of joyous because I have begun to believe that no matter what I do, God has it under control and that is lazy thinking. It presumes upon God to keep me straight and it also presumes to give Him my free will decisions and become nothing more than an automaton....who has no choice. That is not the position of dominion that God decreed when He created man in His image. If I come into the presence of God with sin, I will either bow my knee and repent or I will be judged and expelled. But the choice of condition is mine alone. Thank God for Jesus, who redeemed me.
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