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  1. infidels

    Your prayer has been answered Davida. Not because what I say is untrue or half truth, but rather because I sense a lot of anger and hate from many who post here. Not just in this thread, but in many others. Anyone can use the search feature and find many threads on the subject of Muslims and Islam for examples of this. For a Christian forum it is not very welcoming to people of other faiths, and even some denominations of Christianity which I find to be very sad. I don't see a topic headline anywhere on this forum for goodbyes, so I will just say them here. I have been called a liar, worker of the devil, condemned to hell and have had many other false accusations directed towards me in this thread. I have disused this topic with Christians both online and in person for many years and no such accusations were ever made despite many who disagreed with me. Being insulted by Christians is something new for me and I to be honest I am tired. I think I have said all that needs to be said and I thank God for giving me the strength and the patience to say what I have said here on this forum despite the opposition from some. A special thank you to those who showed love and patience towards me in the short time I was here. I have no need to name them as they will know who they are. Their fruit is good. While it is time for me to move on, I will leave everyone with some advice Paul gave to the Church at Philippi in his letter to them. "Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus," (Philippians 2:3-5) Stay blessed in Christ...
  2. infidels

    That interpretation is wrong and wnd is not a reliable source for anything, much less anything to do with Islam. That hadith is a prediction of something that will happen in the future. It is NOT an instruction of something to be desired or to be carried out by Muslims. It's talking about a major war between the Muslims and the Jews, which the hadiths predict is one of the Signs that will occur just before the coming of the Resurrection. 99.9999% of Muslims are not killing anyone because of their faith. If that hadith actually taught that then there would be more attacks against Jews than we are seeing today.
  3. infidels

    I was equating what happened then to Christians is happening again. They are being deceived to hate a certain group of people. Just like during the turn of the last century Christians are being fed lies about a faith other than their own through propaganda. Christians at that time actually believed that Jews were killing Christian children for their blood, were violent and were the propagators of war in an effort to achieve world domination. They believed that they were evil and that their religion was from Satan. They believed it because it was in the newspapers, taught in churches, and advertised that way. The Christians were clearly wrong in their belief back then about Jews, so how can you be certain you are not in error today?
  4. infidels

    The Gatestone Institute has been labeled as an anti-Islamic think tank. I would like to remind everyone of a period in our history not so long ago where Christians were deceived into supporting an evil agenda. There was a major push in Europe to paint Jews in a negative light at the turn of the last century. The anti-Jewish propaganda machine took over from there and Christians were deceived into believing all kinds of false claims about Jews. Wild stories about Jews drinking the blood of Christian children, that they were at war with Christians and their goal was world domination. That they were devils in disguise and that Satan was their father and their religion was evil. Below is a brief description about Antisemitism from the US Holocaust Museum. Below are some propaganda posters and cartoons from that period that I found through Google. Antisemitism and the Holocaust of the last century was one of the ugliest periods of modern times. Unfortunately we seem to be repeating it in this century. How were Christians so easily deceived to the point that they too started pushing anti-Jewish propaganda? How were the Christians deceived so easily into hating a group of people so much that they looked the other way when Hitler came to power in the 1930's and later began rounding up these so called evil people? They did nothing to stop the killing of millions of Jews and many even aided Hitler in his conquest to rid Germany of these so called "evil" followers of Judaism. How will history judge the Christians today that are pushing the anti-Islamic propaganda and supporting discrimination and wars against people that they have been taught by a multi-million dollar industry of hate into fearing? How do you not know if you are being deceived today? Is it possible that history is just repeating its self, only instead of Jews, the victims are Muslims this time around? In the images above, can you see the similarities to what we are witnessing today towards Islam?
  5. infidels

    Not at all. There are no instructions by Muhammad to attack or kill innocent people whether they are Christians, Jews, or any other faith. There are also no instructions to convert the world to Islam or overthrow governments. Muslims are required to follow the laws of the country they live in just like anyone else. Do you believe our own Supreme Court would recognize Muhammad as one of the greatest lawgivers in history along with Moses and Solomon if he taught evil and hate? We both know that the Qur'an and Muhammad are not from God. But when you put the Qur'an into historical context, it is clear that Islam does not promote violence or war towards other people or nations. This is complete nonsense. This site alone lists several thousand examples with sources and it does not include them all. https://muslimscondemn.com/ I am an American by birth and since being baptized by the Holy Spirit, a citizen of Heaven. My allegiance today is with God and to God only. I am only living in a country that currently has Sharia written into its constitution at this time. It is not my country or constitution, but regardless of where I travel or live in this world, I will submit to the governing authorities and respect their laws. So are you aligned with the terrorism taking place in India where Christian terrorists are trying to establish a Christian state in the name of Christ? Did you speak out during the Bosnian Genocide? Have you spoken out against Joseph Kony and his army of Christian soldiers trying to establish a Christian state based on the Ten Commandments in Uganda? The man who recently drove a van into a group of Muslims in London or the man who attacked the mosque in Canada? These people below? Maybe you have, but I haven't seen any widespread condemnation for these acts from the "Christian" community have you?
  6. infidels

    I am glad you brought this up as it shows how easy it is to judge others unjustly. Unfortunately this group, while not at the same capacity as in the past, still exists today. Below are excerpts of what is written on the front page of the Loyal White Knights of the KKK based in my home county back in the US. I will not link to the site here because I consider it a hate site, but anyone is free to google it. I pray that no one on this forum holds the same views as the KKK, but just as the above does not represent us as followers of Christ and the Church in America, those preaching hate and committing acts of evil in the name of Islam do not represent Muslims.
  7. infidels

    How do those documents prove in any way that Muslims are at war with us? How many of "their" documents have you seen that claim this? How many people claiming to be Muslims wrote these documents? 1? 10? 100? 1,000? Even if there were as many as 10,000 documents written by 10,000 people that say Muslims are at war with us, that would only represent 0.0001% of all the Muslims in the world. How can the opinions of just 0.0001% represent that of all the 1.6 billion followers of Islam? But lets go even further and say by the off chance that each of those 10,000 writers had 10,000 people that believed as they do. That would come to an astonishing 100,000,000 people that claim they are at war with us. But even then, those 100 million misguided people would only be representing 0.06% of Muslims. To claim that Muslims are at war with based on a few documents is irrational. In addition to the fact that 1.6 billion Muslims are living peacefully among their neighbors throughout the world including the more than 3 million living in the United States, math also proves without doubt that those pushing anti-Islamic propaganda are liars. Moses and Joshua were commanded to kill non-believers including women and children. Why are the Jews not at war with non-believers today? It's because they understand the historical context of the Torah. Muslims are not at war with non-believers today for the same reason. They also understand the historical context in which their scriptures were written. You have overlooked the most obvious possibility. As a follower of Jesus I love my neighbors, even my Muslim neighbors, as I love myself.
  8. infidels

    For those who are interested, below is the link to that topic (Just click on the title). There were some great posts made by other members in that thread supporting their side on the subject and regardless of which side of the issue one stands, there's a lot of good discussion and scripture to be found there supporting each.
  9. infidels

    I can assure you that Muslims are not at war with anyone, and your fears would subside if you took the time to interact more with Muslims in your area. I don't know how far you are from Oklahoma City, but looking at google there are several mosques there. You should take the time to visit one and discuss these issues with some of the Muslims there. Who knows, the Holy Spirit might work through you to lead some of them to Christ in the process.
  10. infidels

    Considering the current state of the world, I think it's important than ever for us as Christians to come to know Muslim people better. I don't expect you or anyone else to change their mind on this issue based on the posts I have made in this forum. I don't have a multi-million dollar budget like the anti-Islamic groups do to push their hatred, so my reach is very limited. But there is no substitute to personal relationships with real Muslims when it comes to learning about their religion and what they actually believe. I suggest everyone go into their community and start interacting more with the Muslim community. That's when you will find what I have said here to be true. That's also what Jesus would like us all to do as well. What good are we to the gospel if we choose to only socialize and share our love and compassion with other believers?
  11. infidels

    Do you have evidence of this outside of the groups and individuals who are being accused of spreading anti-Islamic propaganda in those reports? I acknowledge that it's a liberal organization behind that research, but if you study the subject you will find that what they say is true. In addition to my education on Islam, I know it's true because I have been contacted by one of the more well known organizations mentioned in that report fishing for Christian persecution stories to add to their anti-Islamic website last year. When I told them the situation here was not related to religion, they asked if I could refer him to some Catholic priests. They too declined to share any stories about Christian persecution to this anti-Islamic organization despite being offered support from them. Below is a portion of that conversation. The consensus is pretty much across the board that religion is not the problem here in Mindanao. Marawi war nothing to do with religion — President Duterte http://politics.com.ph/marawi-war-nothing-religion-duterte/ Filipino Bishops: ‘Marawi war is not a religious conflict’ https://www.worldwatchmonitor.org/2017/07/filipino-bishops-marawi-war-not-religious-conflict/ Armed Forces of the Philippines: This is not a religious war; this is a terror attack on the city of Marawi http://www.interaksyon.com/military-appeals-to-netizens-stop-sharing-fake-news-about-marawi-extremists/ Marawi crisis is not about religion, says wife of Mindanao Development Authority (MinDA) Secretary Datu Abul Khayr Alonto http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2017/07/13/marawi-crisis-not-about-religion-says-execs-wife-552651 Anyone with an understanding of the history of Mindanao and the Moro people knows the battles and conflicts here are not about religion, but people separated from the conflict by thousands of miles don't. This would also be true in many other parts of the world as well such as the Middle East and Africa. People in western countries are so far removed by what is going on in those parts of the world that they lack a proper understanding of what is actually taking place on the ground. Religion is easy to blame, but without fully understanding the cultures, history, and past injustices done in those parts of the world, it is impossible to properly understand what drives the conflicts and wars in those regions. Prior to 1990 Islamic related extremism was relatively rare. In fact, Between 1970 and 1985 less than 10% of all terrorist attacks in the world were carried out Islamist. You just have to look at what changed between the 1980's and today to find out what is driving this chaos. You can begin your search in Saudi Arabia and go from there. Here in Mindanao its about land rights, drugs, and Money. Philippine ISIS Allies Aren't Motivated By Islamic Religion, Just Cash & Drugs https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphjennings/2017/06/14/philippine-isis-allies-mindanao-maute/#2b1053b222a1 Much the same, in the Middle East, its about land rights, oil, and money. As for the leaders of these groups it's no different, money greed, and power are their motivation. Religion is only used by terrorist groups like the Abu Sayyaf, Boco Haram, and ISIS to divide and conquer the masses. If they can create division and conflict between ordinary Christians and Muslims, they will win. If you believe it is about religion, the terrorists have achieved their goal. Unfortunately those pushing the anti-Islamic propaganda are aiding the terrorists in accomplishing that goal. People like John Guandolo, Daniel Pipes, Bridget Gabrial, Walid Shoebat and their organizations are all enemies of peace. If that university was trying to appeal to non-Muslims, it probably wouldn't teach things like this. I assure you that the courses offered by this school do not sugar coat anything about Islam to appeal to followers of other religions. It is based in Africa and primarily targets students in that region as well as the Middle east and SE Asia. I only found out about it when the founder of the school came here a few years ago and was mentioned in the news. He has since opened a campus in Marawi, here in Mindanao which has a population that is over 95% Muslim. If they were trying to appeal to non-Muslims, the campus would have been opened in a more religiously diverse city.
  12. infidels

    How so? We both know that Jesus and God are one, but Muslims don't. It's just a misunderstanding on their part. Are they worshiping the same God? How can they not be when the Qur'an tells them to worship the same God as Abraham, the God of Israel. It instructs them to worship the same God as the Jews and the Christians. This is who they worship in their heart, just the same as the Jews. There is no other God but the one true God who can be called the God of Israel. Arab Muslims, Jews, and Christians all call God "Allah". Are the Jews and Christians committing a sin by using that name for God? As for the sin part, there are non of us who are free from sin. Do you think you know everything there is to know about God? I certainly don't. He is way beyond our comprehension and understanding. Doctrine is another issue, look at how many denominations we have within the Church. There are errors to be found in all of them, not one has it all correct. As for my position on the same God issue, the Church is about evenly split on the issue. You will find Baptist, Pentecostals, Methodists, etc. who believe just as I do. many with much more education than I do in theology. In America the polling shows around a 60/35 split with a few who don't know one way or another. So when you go to church on Sunday around a third of the people in the building may actually believe as I do statistically. That will vary from church to church of course and to be honest I doubt many people every even think about this issue. The point is, we have our own opinions on certain issues, but it does not affect our ability to share the gospel. Varying ideas on doctrine and theology have no effect on our salvation or our ability to lead others towards Christ. In fact, it wasn't growing up in a Christian home or going to church every Sunday listening to preachers that lead me to Christ, God instead used three pagan girls who had never read a single verse of scripture in their life to lead me to the Truth. The Lord works in mysterious ways. It is the Holy Spirit that leads people to Christ not me. I leave that up to Him as I am the first to admit I am not perfect and may not have everything exactly right. I can only try to lead people towards Him, but not to Him. You may feel that my way of thinking about God is false, but the gospel I share is not. There is but one gospel and that is found in Jesus Christ. I have posted it before, but this is the gospel I share just to be sure there is no confusion. Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; that he was buried; and that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures. I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: ‘The righteous will live by faith.' This righteousness of God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement through faith in his blood. For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly… But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us… For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled we shall be saved by His life. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace. Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. Since, then, you have been raised up with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you have died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.” Amen. Source: (1 Corinthians 15:3,4)(Romans 1:16-17)(Romans 3:22-25)(Romans 5:6, 8, 10)(Ephesians 1:7)(Romans 7:4)(Colossians 3:1-4) I started fresh the moment I was baptized by the Holy Spirit, there is no stepping back for me. This is who I believe God is. ...there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form. (Colossians 2:9)(1 Corinthians 8:6)
  13. infidels

    No, in addition to education, it comes from more than three decades of experience and interacting with real Muslims. Maybe you should step back and take the plank out of your own eye sister. have you not noticed how you and others have been addressing me throughout this thread? I can't recall saying anyone here doesn't know anything, but I can tell by the posts here that many have a lot to learn about their Muslim neighbors. As for the countries you listed, I have visited two on that list, but it has been more than 30 years. I have Filipino Christian friends that live in Saudi Arabia and they seem to like it. But any modern country would be an improvement to some of the places here in the Philippines.
  14. infidels

    At least you are willing to admit it Where have I done this? The following are things I have said about Islam in this thread. Islam does not lead to salvation, Islam is anti-Christ, Muhammad was a false prophet, and Muslims will perish without Christ. How is that equating Christianity to Islam? Source? Maybe it hasn't been discussed because no body brought it up until now? This is also included in those inscriptions: The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is the Messenger of God, and His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say, “Three.” Refrain—it is better for you. God is only one God. Glory be to Him—that He should have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth, and God is a sufficient Protector. And peace be upon him the day he was born, and the day he dies, and the Day he is raised alive. That is Jesus son of Mary—the Word of truth about which they doubt. Source - Classical Islam: A Sourcebook of Religious Literature. Norman Calder You are correct, this is anti-Christ as I have been saying throughout this thread. These inscriptions are just verses out of the Qur' an. Source? Around, 2,000 women who claim to be Christians sacrifice their children before they are even born every day in America on average. Both are forms of evil. http://www.christianpost.com/news/70-of-women-who-get-abortions-identify-as-christians-survey-finds-150937/ Maybe you should start at the beginning of the thread and see what has been covered already. Not buying it, Source? I really need a source for this one. Most of the conflict in Sudan has been political and tribal unrelated to religion. The LRA was however driven by religion and wanted to overthrow the Ugandan government to great a Christian state. Rwanda was different because that country is more than 90% Christian and church leaders were involved in the many of the massacres. While it was also tribal, Islam had little to do with what happened there. ISIS doesn't have anything on what happened in Rwanda. On average 8,000 people were being killed every day for almost four months. Estimates ranged from 500,000 to 1,000,000. I went somewhere in the middle. This is also what drives much of the killing in the Middle East and Asia. religion is often not a factor. I'm not sure, but the Catholics in Mexico seem to be pretty violent. From a report yesterday. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-staggering-death-toll-of-mexicos-drug-war/The above was the period from 2007-14 The above was from 2007-14 They seem to behead a lot of people too. http://nationalpost.com/news/graphics/mexican-drug-cartels-spreading-influence-graphic/wcm/9170f5b1-bf2b-438d-8ba9-96c78ee0af2b I know what you are going to say, those are not related to their religion, but if these people were following their religion, which I believe Catholics and their religion are peaceful, then the murders and the atrocities would not be occurring at such a high rate. Try telling that to the people in Tripura and Nagaland where Baptist churches supported by Christians in the United States and new Zealand have been sending money, missionaries, and arms purchased locally by the Baptist church to support terrorist organizations that are fighting to establish a Christian state and to expand the kingdom of God in India. In the process they have forced thousands to convert, captured sex slaves, and those who refuse to convert have been killed. Basically the same thing ISIS was doing in Iraq and Syria.
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