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  1. Badjao33

    Is there a better way to 'do Church'?

    You're welcome, and I'm glad you created this thread. Many will likely have an issue with this topic, but I hope it will make a lot of Christians rethink the way we are currently doing "church".
  2. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Those are criminal activities and they should be charged for such when they are caught. If you know of anyone doing this I hope you will report them.
  3. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    I didn't know the President, churches, and mission agencies were above reproach. Is that what you believe? I haven't singled out the president in this debate by the way. I am criticizing our current administrations policy. The Church does have the ability and the resources to solve the problems of poverty and homelessness in America, so I was only pointing out the obvious in my last post. The average Evangelical Christian in America only gives about 4% of their income to the church they attend, and 97% of that money stays inside the church. That deserves criticism. I gave an expanded response on the subject in this thread
  4. Badjao33

    Is there a better way to 'do Church'?

    I originally wrote this in 2014 so a few of the figures may be a little off, but not enough to change the point of the message. Being part of the Church is walking with Jesus and setting an example for the rest of the world where so many are not fulfilled because they do not know or love Him. We as believers do not need a building or "professional" preachers to worship God. Imagine what the true Church could do with all the money that is currently being spent on un-biblical buildings and salaries if it went directly to the needy both spiritually and physically as Jesus commanded. Why it is so important for you to stop "Going" to church and instead "Be" the Church? In the Bible, the "Church" is always a reference to people, not a place or a building. Putting people in costly buildings and building more and bigger buildings to house Christians in every Sunday is a big stumbling block for the spread of God's love as well as the gospel. The best thing that could possibly happen is if starting today there would be no more "professional" preachers, every church building would lock its doors, and instead every person in the world that claims to be born again and in a covenant with Jesus would instead witness to one other person in their own neighborhood and share their testimony concerning their encounter with Jesus Christ and how He is changing their life. If this were to occur it would be the be the beginning of a revolution that would change the world! Imagine then what the true church could do with all the money that is currently being spent on unbiblical buildings and salaries if it went directly to the needy both spiritually and physically as Jesus commanded. When Jesus said, "... I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it" (Matthew:16:18), He was saying the Church (His people) would never die. The Church would be alive. A caring body of believers striving to serve God, do His work, and support each other. How can this be done if everyone is gathered together in a building every Sunday? It would be better to go out in small groups throughout the community and meet the needs of the people outside of the church. The overhead of "church" buildings makes them impractical to be useful tool for reaching the lost. Also expecting the lost to come to them or to use them goes against what Jesus told us (The Church) to do. He commanded us to go into all the world and preach the gospel. The key word is “GO.” Most Christian institutions don't "GO" as Jesus commands, but rather they sit idle and expect people to come to them. Christian institutions today are the same as the unfaithful servants in Matthew 20:6 of which Jesus said, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?' “Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." ( Ephesians 2:19–22) (1 Peter 2:5) This is "The Church Jesus Built", of which Jesus spoke when He said "I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." (Matthew 16:18) So based on the Bible's definition of the Church, we being the living stones and Jesus being the cornerstone ("A spiritual house"), and further teachings found in the New Testament, there is no doubt that the main and enduring purpose for the Church is to proclaim the Gospel to the unbelieving world and to build up future disciples in sound doctrine. Not buildings. Jesus said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” (Matthew 28:16-20) Unfortunately since the days of the early Church man in his "worldly views" falls into the trap of thinking that he alone owns the "Church", and says, "I'm going to 'do church' my way." instead of following the simple instructions given to him. Paul warned the Church of Cornith of this "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." (2 Corinthians 11:3) The model given to us by Jesus was a simple one and the results of straying from that can be seen in almost every church today. In the days of the early Church people gave up their lives to go out and reach their communities and the world with the gospel. Today's churches, instead of going out and reaching the lost, are planting themselves in a nice building and expect the lost to come to them. Unfortunately today's churches have become nothing more than institutions, businesses, and sideshows designed to attract "members". It's God's money and too much of His money is being wasted on buildings, salaries, sound systems, light systems, and promotion to name a few. Just something to think about before you place the envelope that contains the money God blessed you with in the plate next time you visit the building you chose to worship in. "Woe to the shepherds of Israel who feed themselves! Should not the shepherds feed the flock? You eat the fat and clothe yourselves with the wool; you slaughter the fatlings, but you do not feed the flock. The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them. My people have been lost sheep. Their shepherds have led them astray; they have turned them away on the mountains. They have gone from mountain to hill. They have forgotten their resting place. All who found them have devoured them." (Ezekiel 34:2-4)(Jeremiah 50:6-7) So called "churches" are spending more on themselves rather than on the needs of those outside the church. On average 82 cents for every dollar given to a church goes to the building, utilities, and staff salaries. After everything else, only 3 cents on the dollar on average goes to actually reaching the lost and helping people. Below are the most recent statistics I could find. The average church member in the US gives $800 on average to their church each year. All in all, Americans give more than $50 billion annually directly to churches. (I found one source that said 93 Billion, but I will go with the more conservative number) So what could 50 Billion dollars do if we stopped spending a majority of our money on religious institutions and the "Church" instead started to follow the teachings of Jesus? The American church alone could fully fund every single humanitarian crisis in the world today! (Requirements: $25.39 billion) http://fts.unocha.org/ The overall national average cost of a meal in the US is $2.52. At that rate 19,841,269,841 meals could be purchased each year by the church! That would end the hunger problem in the US without any problem, so just imagine what it could do in the developing world where a meal can be had for less than a dollar in in most cases. With approximately 600,000 homeless people in the US it would only take $657,000,000 to feed every homeless person in America three meals a day for an entire year! In 2012, 6 percent of households in the US (7.0 million households) experienced very low food security. The Church could buy each one of these households $137 in groceries every week and that problem would be eliminated. $25 billion could relieve hunger, starvation and deaths from preventable diseases worldwide in just five years. The Church could build an $83,000 house for every homeless person in the country! The Church could send 3.3 million kids to college at a tuition of $15k per year. $12 billion could eliminate illiteracy worldwide in five years. $1 billion could fully fund all overseas mission work. So in any given year the Church could feed every homeless person in America, respond to every humanitarian problem in the world, build 100,000 houses, send 500,000 kids to college, fund every missionary currently in the field, and have change left over! The word "Church" comes from the Greek word "ecclesia" and literally means the "called out ones", or the "separate ones/set apart ones". Set apart from man's ways, logic, and especially the world. The word "ecclesia" in the Bible is never used to describe a place or a building. It's time for Christians to rethink Church.
  5. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal public benefit programs. Then why aren't we (The Church) helping them? This doesn't sound like a problem the government should be fixing, but rather us. Have you ever stopped to think what the Church could actually do in the world if members would stop "going" to church and actually started being the CHURCH that Jesus intended it to be. Being part of the Church is walking with Jesus and setting an example for the rest of the world where so many are not fulfilled because they do not know or love Him. We as believers do not need a building or "professional" preachers to worship God. Imagine what the true Church could do with all the money that is currently being spent on un-biblical buildings and salaries if it went directly to the needy both spiritually and physically as Jesus commanded. I originally wrote about this in 2014, so a few of the figures may be a little off, but not enough to change the point. The average church member gives an average of $800 to their church each year. All in all, Americans give more than $50 billion annually directly to churches. (I found one source that said 93 Billion, but I will go with the more conservative number) So what could 50 Billion dollars do if we stopped spending a majority of our money on religious institutions and the "Church" instead started to follow the teachings of Jesus? The American church alone could fully fund every single humanitarian crisis in the world today! (Requirements: $25.39 billion) http://fts.unocha.org/ The overall national average cost of a meal in the US is $2.52. At that rate 19,841,269,841 meals could be purchased each year by the church! That would end the hunger problem in the US without any problem, so just imagine what it could do in the developing world where a meal can be had for less than a dollar in in most cases. With approximately 600,000 homeless people in the US it would only take $657,000,000 to feed every homeless person in America three meals a day for an entire year! In 2012, 6 percent of households in the US (7.0 million households) experienced very low food security. The Church could buy each one of these households $137 in groceries every week and that problem would be eliminated. $25 billion could relieve hunger, starvation and deaths from preventable diseases worldwide in just five years. The Church could build an $83,000 house for every homeless person in the country! The Church could send 3.3 million kids to college at a tuition of $15k per year. $12 billion could eliminate illiteracy worldwide in five years. $1 billion could fully fund all overseas mission work. So in any given year the Church could feed every homeless person in America, respond to every humanitarian problem in the world, build a 100,000 houses, send 500,000 kids to college, fund every missionary currently in the field, and have change left over! Unfortunately today's churches have become nothing more than institutions, businesses, and sideshows designed to attract "members" while totally disregarding the needs of its neighbors. We are called out from the world as members of the Church, and we need to address the needs of our neighbors based on the teachings of Jesus. Too many people in the US and around the world are suffering today because too many Christians are waiting and relying on worldly governments to address their problems.
  6. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    A beacon of truth? That site makes false claims and false reports on a regular basis. It's easy to prove.
  7. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    How can the numbers be increasing when the the number of undocumented residents from Mexico entering the country has fallen by almost one million and the number of illegals entering is at historic lows? Percentage wise the number of apprehensions are at the highest, deportations are higher percentage wise, and most are attending their hearings?
  8. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Can you please let me know which link this was? Thanks.
  9. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Frontpagemag is a site know for bearing false witness and is not a good source for Christians to get information. They once claimed on their site that 60,000 Christians were ethnically cleansed from a community I serve in here in the Philippines which was a lie. I can say with certainty that this site can't be trusted for true reporting. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/frontpage-magazine/
  10. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    The current situation is not a liberal or conservative political issue, but a moral issue. Most people in America are appalled at what is taking place at our border including many conservative Evangelicals. Below are a few examples. "It's disgraceful. It's terrible to see families ripped apart and I don't support that one bit," Franklin Graham “These children and their parents need our prayers, This is a frightening time for them, because they have been separated in a strange land. Children and families hold special places in our hearts because of the teachings of Scripture. Scripture instructs us to respect the laws of nations, but the Bible also indicates Christ followers are to honor a higher authority, We obey the laws of governments unless they call on us to violate the instructions of God, then we seek to change the laws. God is sovereign over nations, and in a democracy Christians have a special responsibility to bring godly influence to government policies. Living in a democracy, Christians have a responsibility to seek to influence government in the direction of care and justice for all people, especially the ‘least of these,’ as noted by Jesus in Matthew 25.” Gus Reyes, director of the Texas Baptist Christian Life Commission A coalition of Evangelicals endorsed the following letter:
  11. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Yes it is. These are just ones recently sent to New York. Hundreds of others have been sent to other states. The US is a member of the 1951 Refugee Convention, so under international law people seeking refugee have a right to be here. Once here they are protected under our constitution. Also Public Law 96-212 of 1980 gives immigrants the right to enter the US. 1951 Refugee Convention http://www.unhcr.org/uk/1951-refugee-convention.html Public law 96-212 of 1980 https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-94/pdf/STATUTE-94-Pg102.pdf No, I am presenting hard facts, just because you don't accept them doesn't mean I am spewing a liberal narrative. When I read the news and something is questionable, I take the time to go directly to the sources and find the truth. Unfortunately, most people, especially in the US, whether liberal or conservative, don't go far beyond the headlines of their favorite news source to see where the truth lies. As long as it agrees with their point of view, they don't even question it. They're not being ignored. If you were pulled over at a traffic stop and your child was removed from you without you knowing it was going to happen to your child and not having the opportunity to tell your child what was going on or even to give a proper good bye, and then your child was put into another car, taken to a processing center, put on a plane, and then housed in a top notch facility a thousand miles away, how do you thing you and your child would feel? Would it matter how well your child was being treated or how nice a bed they were sleeping in? Would it matter if they bought her new clothes and fed her the best foods? Now imagine if you and your child had no way of communicating for weeks or even months without ever knowing the fate of the other. It would be traumatic for both of you, and especially the child. That is abuse by definition.
  12. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Which is exactly why children shouldn't be separated from their parents at the border and sent to institutions for weeks and months at a time. In almost every case, the trafficking of children occurs either before or after the children arrive at the border. Not when they are crossing.
  13. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Yes, I am talking about asylum seekers which make up about 1/3 of those crossing the southwest border. Not 10%. You say "less than 10% of illegals are asylum seekers", which implies that they are breaking the law. Asylum seekers are not breaking the law. As can be seen in the chart below, the number of asylum seekers has increased dramatically in recent years. The increase at the southwest border is a direct result of what is taking place in central America. Those showing up at our borders today from these countries need our help. They are not criminals and are instead desperate people seeking refuge. Turning them away at our border and deporting these people equals a death sentence for many. That's not hype, that's the truth based on facts on the ground. Then they are criminals. Families and asylum seekers who come with children have an almost 100% rate of showing up for their hearings and of all people apprehended at the border, since 2012, between 75 and 89 percent show up for their hearings. https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2016 On average, 80% of those 1 million have lived there for over 5 years, with 66% living there 10 or more years. Also, many of those are illegal because they overstayed their visas which they legally obtained at some point in time. Every Filipino illegal would probably fall into that category. Not all of those who are illegal in LA came across the southwest border. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/27/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/ Border crossings are at historic lows, so it's not like we are facing the same crisis we were in the past. There is no need to separate a child for more than a few hours to one day at most. It doesn't take long for professionals to determine if that child belongs to the adult they are in the company of. Separating children from their parents and shipping them across the country alone is child abuse and causes irreversible psychological trauma. It also puts them at a higher risk of being trafficked. In order to find out that 99% of the families were legitimate, then the 1% that weren't had to also be screened which means they were probably didn't get away with anything. No child is expendable. Since there is a problem with gun violence in the US, if the government started a policy that all gun owners must surrender their guns until they can sort it all out, would you support such a move? Not one of these links proved that most illegals crossing the border do not show up for their hearings. DHS and the US Department of Justice puts the percentage of no shows at less than 25% on average since 2012. I'm going to go with that number. I'm not spewing a liberal narrative. I am producing facts many of which come directly from the US government. It does matter and I don't want it happening at all either. In 2017 there were 46 cases of fraudulent family claims of those crossing the border, and in the first five months of the 2018 fiscal year, there were 191 cases. Since the government had to process these fraudulent cases, that would mean they were caught if they were found to be traffickers.
  14. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    The courts that made those decisions are ran by the Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) which operates under the US Department of Justice. It is relevant because you don't punish 99% of a group because of the actions of 1%. While it happens, human traffickers are not bringing a significant number of children across the border. Remember, we are talking about people who are being caught at the border. How many traffickers do you think are actually getting away with bringing a child into the country successfully? Border agents know what to look out for, and a majority are being detained. My compassion has no limits. Supporting a policy that treats everyone as a criminal and taking their children away while they await a hearing shows a lack of compassion the way I see it. According to the Department of Justice most do show up for their hearings. https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/fysb16/download What is your source that shows American lawyers are telling drug cartels to pose as parents? If it is happening, it is not a widespread problem. It has already been shown in another thread that 99.4% of the families arriving at the border in 2017-18 are legitimate. Once again, treating 99.4% of a group as criminals for the actions of 0.06% is wrong. No, that is according to the Department of Homeland Security. As for those seeking asylum, a fairly large percentage are from central America (Around 2,010 approvals in 2016). Those who aren't approved are of course deported, but that still doesn't make them a criminal. https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/fysb16/download I'm only trying to bring some facts to the table.
  15. Badjao33

    Immigrating to The Philippines

    Women and children from central America have been recognized by the US courts to be a persecuted group. Less than 1% fall into that category. Most undocumented people entering the country do show up for for their hearings and just last year Trump ended the Family Case Management Program (FCMP) in which 99.6 percent of ankle monitored families and 100 percent of families who were paired with caseworkers along with ankle monitors showed up for their court hearings. Most asylum seekers are law abiding. That was a better and cheaper plan than anything we have going on now. I don't think anyone is advocating ignoring the law. Seeking asylum is legal even for people without any documentation or papers, and by law if someone arrives at the border asking for asylum or expressing fear of returning to their own country whether its at a checkpoint or not, border agents are required to refer the person to an asylum officer who then decides their eligibility for protection. So in the case of all of those coming from places like Guatemala, El-Salvador, and Honduras crossing the border seeking asylum, they are not breaking any laws even if they are breaching the border at a point far from a checkpoint. They don't become illegal until they miss a hearing or fail to follow instructions.
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