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The challenges of evolving into technological dependence. There's a lesson behind all this. Years ago there was a movie I caught by chance. A blackout occurred in this neighborhood and spanned quite a ways but not the whole U.S.. The people in this one neighborhood panic and think the worst because the power doesn't come on right away. The blackout lasts something like the weekend. Meanwhile, we get to see just how dependent we are on one resource; electricity. They can't get fuel at the local stations. They can't get cash from the bank ATM. One man's son has asthma and they can't get his inhaler from the pharmacy because the computer doesn't bring up the boys account. Which is ridiculous in that case because the pharmacist knew the family so he could have just given the boy the ability to breathe. There are no lights. But there are phones, because electricity outage doesn't effect those. But what was weird in the movie plot is that wasn't brought up. It just showed how people panic when the power went out. Think about that. We're told our grid in the U.S. is very primitive compared to some countries. Imagine a hit on the electric grid in the U.S. . What that would do to America itself. This with the computers is one thing. But that? Yikes. Someone out there is showing us just how vulnerable we are. God help us.

I think the Christian charitable heart prays for those who suffer mentally. And especially for those who are considering taking their own life to alleviate the pain they feel. I can never second guess someone in such straits. And I don't think it fair to ostracize people from speaking openly about what they may know personally as pertains to the condition. And most certainly not appropriate is threatening them with report and banning by every expendable effort, just to get them to shut up. Brain chemistry is a fact of life and science that has been long known for generations. It is God's blessing that psychiatry is finding ways to identify what occurs in those chemical processes that make people feel as they do when they're mentally unwell. Being open to that understanding helps people. Threatening to shut it down when spoken of does not. Let's all remember we are one in Christ. And show compassion for one another. As we treat one another so too do we treat Christ. God be with those who struggle.

You're welcome to the support. Too often we gloss over someone's express question in order to reiterate our own point.

Of course that isn't true as one can discern when they read through the links. Claiming blanket statement doesn't offset the evidence that there are posts that say exactly that. Women can't be pastors. Which we all know of course is a service God calls people to.

I know of no scripture to that effect either. It really doesn't even make sense that the sole reason God created the world was so that humans, being the journey we have to travel from birth unto death, sin, sinners, redemption, rebirth, then allows us to judge angels that are not in sin? I think the proposal became insolvent when the justification for it was, "common sense".

Your blanket statement not withstanding? Scripture does speak for itself. And nowhere does God say women can't be pastors.

LOL Great words brother. I don't think we have to defend God's plan for women. I think those that argue God shows prejudice toward women should be ashamed. We are all one in Christ. Any other time that would settle it. God said it, I believe it, and that's it. That's typically how it goes with us bible believers. Except for this case of women pastors. It's nonsense. People don't agree with a woman being a pastor that's their fault letting their prejudice second guess God. God calls whom he will to serve. Do we really think God looks at the world and says, aw shucks, she can't spread the word of my son because I made her female! Next? That's man's thinking. Not God's. We can't know the mind of God. God says that in his word. And yet there are those of us who second guess God on the issue of women pastors.

That is correct. It is about misogyny. Which can be a factor in those strongly opposed to women being pastors.

Blanket statement? I refuted Running Gators claim on first page and his statement about women pastors. And from there as it progressed to that of women being called in service to God. Which includes women pastors. Therefore, you're wrong about the content of those posts in the link I afforded using the keyword search here to find threads wherein women pastors have been the topic, "women pastors". And those results show there is opposition to women being called in service as pastors by God.

"So?" Fascinating.

That which will answer to God. For arguing their prejudice knows the mind of the eternal through that lens.

For some reason the search page of over 1,100 results won't post the full link so that I can cut and paste. But if you search all forum for "women pastors" you'll find plenty of posts.I posted a copy of the first search page being the link to search results doesn't show in the browser window. misogyny Happinessity replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion ...Interesting that a topic of misogyny has a man introducing the topic ofwomen being unfit to pastor due to their gender. That's not misogyny necessarily though misogyny can be a component on an individual basis. It is however, a gender prejudice. Especially when neither Jesus nor God said that wome... 48 minutes ago 47 replies 1 Why I Do Not Believe in Any of Today's "End Times" Prophesy Badjao33 posted a topic in Eschatology I am new here and after reading through many threads, I know in advance that I am going to be in the minority with the following point of view. Of course I didn't read each and every thread, so maybe there are some others here that believe the same as I do. For a little back ground, I was once... May 4 74 replies 1 misogyny Wolf Bridges replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion ...People can say that claimingwomen aren't fit for thepastors seat, an example from this thread, is misogyny. When that can be the underlying motive in someone who says that, it isn't actually what the embodies the meaning of the word misogyny itself. 22 hours ago 47 replies 1 misogyny worthy replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion ...but why choosewomenpastors? We all know its a huge topic of debate. 23 hours ago 47 replies 1 Parasha "Emor" (say) LEV 21:1-24:23 Jacob Ben Avraham posted a topic in Understanding Hebrew Roots ...pastors, rabbis, evangelists, etc. The Sabbath day was NEVER changed to Sunday. Not that it was bad to come together on Sundays, any day of the week is a good time to come together. It just became customary for the believers in the first century to come together on the “first day of the week” like... Saturday at 06:17 PM 1 reply 1 holiness of the levitical priesthood Things only Christianwomen hear Davida replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion How many threads has this been debated in?? you know what I will say to you, we've done this dance before. Take it up with the Word of God if you disagree. I'm too tired to take time to type words that are just a repeat from other threads & it will just be ignored by those that will make excuses to... April 29 123 replies Things only Christianwomen hear Fidei Defensor replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion My thoughts onwomen's role in the Church, from my Blog: "WarriorWomen: The Role ofWomen in the Church There is a major move in Church, withwomen now leading and preaching. There are warriorwomen who want to pray and preach. There are some resisting this, taking Paul's words out... April 30 123 replies 2 Things only Christianwomen hear daughterofGrace replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...Since the subordination ofwomen was part of the curse, we no longer have to live with that set-up today. In fact, if we do, we are not honouring Christ and his work on the cross. So why is it that many churches persist in treatingwomen like second-class citizens? I think it has to do with... April 30 123 replies 3 Things only Christianwomen hear Davida replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion Ifwomen were to have the Exact same role as a men as far as Teaching , Pastoring then why then didn't Jesus pick 6women to be His disciples? Why not 2 or 1 even? The Jewish culture at the time would not have held Him back if that was HIS desire, for He is the Son of God, Jesus could have appointe... April 27 123 replies 3 ShouldWomen Be In Leadership Positions in Church? JohnD replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A In another thread I wrote in response to one who found themselves resentingpastors... ---------------------------------------- Well... You probably need to go into ministry. You see, Christianity has been hijacked by the Roman Empire (which morphed into Roman Catholicis... April 26 24 replies 3 ShouldWomen Be In Leadership Positions in Church? Willa replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A I agree thatwomen can teach young boys, girls andwomen. We have male leaders for middle and high school, and it is needed because middle school boys can be disruptive. The boys need a male example at this time, and many don't have one at home. I think a couple in leadership is optimal. S... April 26 24 replies 1 Things only Christianwomen hear lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...Women had a very subservient role in the time of Christ. Jesus flew in the face of that and hadwomen in his company of Apostles. Thewomen traveled with him , thewomen were at the foot of the cross when he died. Andwomen carried forth the ministry after he departed. Pastor doesn't appear i... April 27 123 replies 2 "Women"Pastors, .... you say? Behold posted a topic in General Discussion ...do you have your point of view about "womenPastors"? im aware of Paul's scriptures about "" teachers, bishops, and "silence in the church" just like you are, but, what is your POV about it, as everyone has one, ive noticed. MIne is......just as soon as a woman can become the "Husband of... August 25, 2016 531 replies 2 Things only Christianwomen hear lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...The argument that Paul is speaking of allwomen is a misunderstanding of scripture and culture of the time. Paul was speaking to one church, not the universal church. It doesn't follow that Paul would say that we are all one in Christ and there is no division. And then later create division b... April 30 123 replies 2 Why is speaking in tounges controversal? Spock replied to Heavenunlimited's topic in General Discussion ...but on another thread you basically said PAUL doesn't allow forwomen to bepastors (even though Jesus did not say they couldn't be), and then here you say Jesus never spoke in tongues, so why should we? Although Paul did speak in tongues, and even encouraged people to seek the gift. Correct... April 24 61 replies 2 Things only Christianwomen hear nebula replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...it could be argued that thewomen who followed Him were disciples as well. 2. Where does the Bible saywomen are not to be "pastors"? Put the word "pastor" in a Bible search, and let me know how many times you even see the word "pastor" and what these verses imply is the job of a pastor!... April 29 123 replies 2 Things only Christianwomen hear shiloh357 replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...In that sensewomen could be included as disciples. But Jesus chose 12 men to the leaders of the Church, to be Apostles. We have no record of the female disciples every starting churches or in any kind of leadership such as pastor. We have no records of sermons preached by female disciples of J... April 29 123 replies Why is speaking in tounges controversal? Riccardo replied to Heavenunlimited's topic in General Discussion ...As forwomenpastors once again don't read into something that Jesus did not say as an affirmative. How big would the Bible have to be if that were the case. God Bless brother May 4 61 replies 1 THE MODESTY DEBATE Neighbor replied to creativemechanic's topic in General Discussion ...I found one of thepastors who was in the church and asked him if it was appropriate for me to wear t shirt and shorts, like he was wearing. He confirmed that it was. I felt better about myself. Modesty, excessive concern about it only leads to individuals eventually wantingwomen conf... May 3 408 replies 2 What does the bible says aboutwomenpastors? Your Brother In Christ posted a question in Worthy Q & A What does the bible says aboutwomenpastors? February 1 21 replies women pastors (and 2 more) can women be pastors CanWomen BePastors? Your Brother In Christ posted a topic in Biblical Topics February 4 women pastors (and 2 more) ShouldWomen Be In Leadership Positions in Church? RustyAngeL replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A ...women are not to be over men in the church. There are many wonderful teachers that arewomen. I have no problem with that. However to be leaders, such aspastors, deacons.... NO. April 27 24 replies 2 ShouldWomen Be In Leadership Positions in Church? JohnD replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A ...I believe the Bible interprets it thatwomen can teach otherwomen and children of both genders (til the males reach adulthood). But that's when there is not a drastic shortage of malepastors / teachers. My point and premise is that we in the Body Christian are all priests of God but we:... April 26 24 replies Things only Christianwomen hear lemurchampagne replied to nebula's topic in General Discussion ...I would caution though that you not attempt to take your opinion that is against God's calling ofwomenpastors and make remarks that present your point of view as one of intolerance and entitlement to judge the whole of the faith and those in service to. Because they are female and in positions of... April 28 123 replies 1 ShouldWomen Be In Leadership Positions in Church? missmuffet replied to Annette's question in Worthy Q & A The Bible tells us thatwomen should not bePastors. Although they can take a teaching roll in the Church. 1 Timothy 2:11-14 April 26 24 replies 1

Good point. Interesting that a topic of misogyny has a man introducing the topic of women being unfit to pastor due to their gender. That's not misogyny necessarily though misogyny can be a component on an individual basis. It is however, a gender prejudice. Especially when neither Jesus nor God said that women would never be called by God to serve as pastors. The text that gender prejudice typically uses to defend itself is where Paul made remarks about women remaining quiet in church. That has nothing to do with pastoral duties. Further, it would be absurd to invoke Paul as articulating gender prejudice under guidance from God's holy spirit, when it is also believed under guidance from God's holy spirit Paul said there is no Greek, nor Jew, nor any other thing that separates us because we are all one in Christ Jesus. That declaration would be erroneous if it was to be inferred to sustain gender prejudice by saying instead, "there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. But you are segregated by gender if women think to preach because they can't. Because they're women!" Which is what gender prejudice attempts to promote of itself when making that stipulation against the oneness of all faithful in Christ. It just doesn't comport with the truth of Christ.

Interesting observation in the latter part of your post. That hearkens back to the thread here that asks is God responsible for Satan's actions. It seems there you're saying, yes. Because you believe the devil and his demons have permission to legally hurt the saints of Christ with disease, troubles, etc...

Yes, there is a difference between discernment and criticism. My observation encircled the latter.