Jump to content

Hidden In Him

Advanced Member
  • Content Count

    361
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    1

Hidden In Him last won the day on May 15 2018

Hidden In Him had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

404 Excellent

About Hidden In Him

  • Rank
    Advanced Member
  • Birthday 07/16/1964

Profile Information

  • Gender
    Male
  • Location
    Lafayette, LA
  • Interests
    Scripture, Spiritual Gifts, Visions and Dreams, Prophecy.

Recent Profile Visitors

1,130 profile views
  1. Alright, thanks to everyone who responded. I appreciate it. Let me see if I can't knock this out, and see what everyone thinks. For starters, what Jesus was doing here was preparing the disciples for the time when they would take over leadership of the church. This is important to understand. As scripture records elsewhere: 28 Then Peter began to say unto him, "Behold, we have left all, and have followed thee." 29 And Jesus answered and said, "Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life." (Mark 10:28-30) Who would the disciples receive these "lands, brethren, and houses" from? The prosperity people say that "God" will give them to you personally in exchange for giving to His work, but this is entirely foreign to the context. He was talking here about inheriting a new spiritual family of "brothers, sisters, mothers, children etc" when they became the heads of the church after His ascension into Heaven. As such, they would also inherit their lands and houses as well, not personally, mind you, but these would become the property of the entire family of God once many started coming into the fold. This would be fulfilled in the following verses: 32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. 33 With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all 34 that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35 and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. (Acts 4:32-35) This is what Jesus was preparing the disciples for. They would soon be reliant upon the support of a different "master," so to speak. The minute they began preaching Christ was raised from the dead the Jewish leadership would no longer support them, but rather decry them as heretics and liars. So they needed to wisely prepare in advance to be welcomed into the homes of those who would believe by giving to them now of their earthly substance - more specifically those who were likewise believing in Jesus but not on as close to Jesus as the disciples were - to make themselves trustworthy in their eyes when the time came for them to become the leaders of the church. This is thus the meaning of the parable. Let me quote it in full: The Parable of the Unjust Steward 16 He also said to His disciples: “There was a certain rich man who had a steward, and an accusation was brought to him that this man was wasting his goods. 2 So he called him and said to him, ‘What is this I hear about you? Give an account of your stewardship, for you can no longer be steward.’ 3 “Then the steward said within himself, ‘What shall I do? For my master is taking the stewardship away from me. I cannot dig; I am ashamed to beg. 4 I have resolved what to do, that when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses.’ 5 “So he called every one of his master’s debtors to him, and said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ 6 And he said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ So he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ 7 Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ So he said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ And he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’ 8 So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light. 9 “And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. 10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11 Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own? 13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” (Luke 16:1-13) The translation here is actually a little off. The phrase is actually, "that when you fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations (plural)". In other words, that "when you no longer have the support of the Jewish community, the faithful will receive you into their homes (plural), and take care of you like family." By giving to believers when they still had "little," they would prove themselves worthy of handing the "much" when they took over leadership. The confusing part for many is where it says, So the master "praised" or "commended" the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. The Greek word used here is ἐπῄνεσεν, which can also be translated as "complimented," or "congratulated," and does not necessarily carry a positive sense. Sort of a "well-done" in the sense of "Touche'. You might have been out on the street, but you managed to find yourself new people to welcome you in by cheating me one last time." It must be kept in mind that the phrase was a reference to the Pharisees and Jewish leadership, and how they would react to what the disciples did in earning the trust of the faithful in advance, and it is likely the Pharisees weren't too happy about it. But they would have to come to terms with the fact that the disciples were not at their mercy after they were denounced as heretics. Very quickly they were being supported by an entire family of believers in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and there was nothing the Jewish leadership could do about it. Well, that's my interpretation. For anyone interested, tell me what you think, and blessings in Christ. Hidden In Him
  2. That's a different take. I'll take a look, and thanks for the link. My interpretation differs from this one, so give me your opinion of mine in comparison after I post it. Blessings in Christ!
  3. I was planning on waiting till the weekend to post my interpretation, so tell me what you think when you get a chance. I respect your input : )
  4. I had to largely separate myself from family after I first got born again to keep from them derailing my faith. Things got better over time, but even then we never developed the closeness we had before I Got saved. I think the Principle that "He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me" can apply here somewhat. You have to make a choice as to whether you are going to go full on with God or not.
  5. Yes. Jesus was making sure they did not think the prophecy of Daniel had already happened, so He was telling them that when they read the Book of Daniel to understand it was still yet future tense. If you take the verse as written for us alone, you have Jesus talking right past His listeners to us today, saying, "2,000 years later, those of you who read this book understand..." I don't think Jesus talked past His immediate audience like that. Those He was addressing directly at the time were important to Him as well. Anyway, just placing the prophecy in its proper context for you. Blessings in Christ.
  6. Greetings, Kenny. I think when He said "readeth," He was telling His audience at the time that when they read the Book of Daniel on this verse to understand that it referred to a future event, and not the rise of Antiochus Epiphanes IV, who some might have thought was a fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy some 190 years earlier. But verses 15-35 definitely do apply to our future. The entire chapter does, in fact. Blessings in Christ, and carry on. Just thought I'd share that with you.
  7. Edited. Thanks for the heads up : )
  8. Here's a secondary question: What specifically did Jesus mean by telling them, "For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light"? (Luke 16:8)
  9. Greetings all, and blessings in Christ! Wanted to throw a parable out there and ask what others thought the meaning of it was, and what Christ was trying to communicate to His disciples. I believe I know the answer here, but I will withhold my responses to give those who wish to an opportunity to answer. Blessings in advance to those who respond! ___________________________________ The Parable of the Unjust Steward 16 He also said to His disciples: “There was a certain rich man who had a steward, and an accusation was brought to him that this man was [a]wasting his goods. 2 So he called him and said to him, ‘What is this I hear about you? Give an account of your stewardship, for you can no longer be steward.’ 3 “Then the steward said within himself, ‘What shall I do? For my master is taking the stewardship away from me. I cannot dig; I am ashamed to beg. 4 I have resolved what to do, that when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses.’ 5 “So he called every one of his master’s debtors to him, and said to the first, ‘How much do you owe my master?’ 6 And he said, ‘A hundred measures of oil.’ So he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and sit down quickly and write fifty.’ 7 Then he said to another, ‘And how much do you owe?’ So he said, ‘A hundred measures of wheat.’ And he said to him, ‘Take your bill, and write eighty.’ 8 So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light. 9 “And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. 10 He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11 Therefore if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own? 13 “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”
  10. Somebody would post a dream the minute I show up, LoL. Nightfire, I have experience in this area, and it could be anything; from the Lord trying to warn you about something to demons trying to torment you and cause you unfounded fears and anxieties to some physical imbalance like lack of sleep or too much caffeine or medications, which is effecting your body negatively and inciting you to dwell on troublesome matters. If you want to send it to me in detail or just post it here publicly, we could discuss it. But to know if it has any substance to it, you would need to tell me what's going on in your spiritual life in some detail. Should it prove to be confirmed by circumstances going on in your life, there would still be the matter of determining if it his coming from God or the enemy. Just thought I'd offer, since you started the thread by asking for help. First time I've been at this forum in more than a year, so maybe it's not a coincidence. We'd have to talk to find out. Blessings in Christ Jesus.
  11. Wonderful words! I'm curious, what genre of Christian worship do you enjoy that is "Full of the word of God"? Musically I have always inclined towards Chris Tomlin/Watermark type stuff, but what excels at sincerity and devotion also often lacks in scripture-heavy content, and this is what true New Testament worship songs contained (Colossians 3:16). I know the hymns still contain fairly scripture-heavy content, only I've just never been much for the music. I'm guessing by your site name that you may have posted some of the stuff you worship to already. Maybe you can provide a link? Just curious as to what you were referring to by "songs that are full of the word of God." Blessings in Christ, and enjoyed your post.
  12. Greetings, Waiting. I was recently putting notes together for a video on this passage, and actually citing it as a reason to believe we still have a ways to go yet. I believe v.9-10 refer to what the apostle Paul warned the Thessalonians about in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4. And if anything, I think we see the opposite just yet: Most believers suffering persecution in other countries and dying for their faith (such as those being beheaded by Muslims), appear to be showing great resilience in the face of martyrdom, and refusing to deny Christ or deliver their fellow Christians up to the authorities. But I'm not up on everything going on with the persecuted church these days, so maybe looks can be deceiving. Do you keep up with the persecuted church? It seems like something worth looking into. Blessings in Christ, and good thread. Hidden In Him
  13. I've been away from Worthy since 2018, so maybe if I get back involved we can have some good discussions again in the future. I presented it at my home forum after posting you, and one reply I got suggested the "years" represented millennia in Israel's history. My response was that the context seemed a little more immediate than that, since He referenced things like the tower of Siloam falling, which was a recent event. So turning around and giving a parable that widened the scope to the last 3,970 years of Israel's history would make references to such recent (and relatively minor) tragedies in Israel seem... under-pronounced at best. He would be leaving far too much out. But impending doom over the next forty years falls in line with citing recent events in Israel's history. Anyway, it came to me when I was reading through the thread, and I was wondering how you were so I thought I would post you on it. @naominash: Good thread! Out of curiosity, what caused you to be interested in it?
  14. Greetings, Gandolf old friend. I know this thread is more than a month old now, but I was just passing by Worthy to see what everyone was up to and noticed it. I thought I would run something by you and see what you thought. About Jesus' words possibly relating what was going on in previous Chapters, there is a break at the beginning of Chapter 13, which seems to make what is mentioned in Ch.11 and Ch.12 too distant from the present context to be of much relevance. But here is what I think it means. I will quote the context again first: 13 Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. 2 Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. 4 Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” (Luke 13:1-5 NIV) 6 Then he told this parable: “A man had a fig tree growing in his vineyard, and he went to look for fruit on it but did not find any. 7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, ‘For three years now I’ve been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven’t found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil?’ 8 “‘Sir,’ the man replied, ‘leave it alone for one more year, and I’ll dig around it and fertilize it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, fine! If not, then cut it down.’” (Luke 13:6-8 NIV) Notice how He said, "But unless you repent, you too will all perish." He says this not once, but twice, making this is the thrust of what He is apparently warning them about; the point being that unless the entire nation repented, they would all likewise perish. The parable He gives then explains why they were all going to perish. It is essentially a prophecy of Israel's destruction, that will come in forty years. For the next thirty years (three in the parable), the gospel would be preached to the nation yet it would bear no fruit. Their destruction from God would be at hand because of it. But the Lord in His patience would give them ten more years (one in the parable) before finally making the determination to cut them down. This prophecy went forth around 30 A.D. and Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D, making three decades plus a final decade before Jerusalem was destroyed. Just thought I would see what you thought, and God bless. Great to see you are still around. Hidden In Him
  15. And this is why most tend to just spot check only certain parts of a dream. They "think" they know what "this" means, so they throw that out there, but rarely try addressing the rest. And it's only when you can put the whole package together into a coherent interpretation that you have something worth presenting. Some will argue, of course, that the whole thing is just nonsense, but that's usually coming from the lazy types, who don't have the wherewithal to even attempt to interpret them at all.
×
×
  • Create New...