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  1. So, that's your take on it? Hmm, interesting.
  2. That is an interesting historical tibit. The experiences in Christianity throughout history are good to know about. God Bless!
  3. How deep are we into the end times? Well how old is Francis? Babylon will fall during the second Woe of Rev.11:13-14 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. Jerusalem will fall as well at least the tenth part of it, mystically know as Sodom and Egypt, where our Lord was crucified and where the witnesses will be killed. The remnant is the remnant of Jacob, those who will be sealed out of every tribe of Israel, the 144, 000 of Rev.7. The beast system Babylon and its Harlot will kill the two Witnesses. When they are resurrected," FALLEN , FALLEN is Babylon the Great" (FALLEN , FALLEN two Woes= second Woe.) The first Woe is coming soon, I know what it entails and will happen when the Rachel portion of the Bride is complete and the Word, the Male Child of Rev.12 is properly established in her. The witnesses will come on the scene during this time. The first Woe is close at hand. God Bless!
  4. You have researched this? Questionable. Are you hearing what you are saying? Luke 1:28 28The angel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you. Highly favored, is full of grace, for it is by grace we are saved. Ephesians 2:8 Alive with Christ …7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast.… Now what is highly favored? high·ly ˈhīlē/ adverb adverb: highly to a high degree or level. "a highly dangerous substance" AND YOU ARE TRULY DEALING WITH A HIGHLY DANGEROUS SUBSTANCE CONCERNING MARY, WHOM GOD EXALTED ABOVE ALL> synonyms: very, extremely, exceedingly, particularly, most, really, thoroughly, decidedly, distinctly, exceptionally, immensely, greatly, inordinately, singularly, extraordinarily; More informalawfully, terribly, majorly, seriously, supremely, desperately, hugely, ultra, oh-so, damn, damned; AND MANY WILL BE DAMNED BECAUSE OF DISRESPECT TOWARD HER. real, mighty, awful; datedfrightfully "a highly dangerous substance" antonyms: slightly favorably. "he was highly regarded by his colleagues" synonyms: favorably, well, appreciatively, admiringly, approvingly, positively, glowingly, enthusiastically "he was highly regarded" antonyms: unfavorably Origin fa·vored ˈfāvərd/ adjective adjective: favoured; adjective: favored preferred or recommended. "she was his favored candidate" synonyms: preferred, favorite, recommended, chosen, choice I hate having to give ELA lessons but some leave me no choice. Now , with all that said , what is the GREATEST GIFT GIVEN TO MAN? YESHUA HAMASHIACH, this is a no-brainer. What is your point? It is obvious you hate the RCC but what is your beef with the Mother of our Lord? Not cool to attack a woman Highly favored and given the most High honor of receiving and raising God Incarnate. There is no greater GRACE given to woman or Man for that matter . As Christ said: No greater man was born of women than John the Baptist, but even THE LEAST shall be greater than he. Who is least? Well, Mary falls into this category simply because she is the weaker vessel. Matthew 11:11 Jesus Testifies about John …10This is the one about whom it is written: ‘Behold, I will send My messenger ahead of You, who will prepare Your way before You.’ 11Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has risen no one greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subject to violence, and the violent lay claim to it.… 1Peter 3:7 7Husbands, in the same way, treat your wives with consideration as a weaker vessel, and with honor as fellow heirs of the gracious gift of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered. So she is Blessed above even John the Baptist, and who has looked upon the LOWLY ESTATE of this handmaiden? Luke1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. And you are saying she is NOT FULL OF GRACE. Are you kidding me! In this GRACE all are saved but yet she who is highly favored was not extended the HIGHEST GRACE and is not full of Grace according to you? She conceived ( IMMACULATELY) The Saviour of man= clean, spotless conception, I will add, Isaiah 7:14 The Sign of Immanuel …13Then he said, "Listen now, O house of David! Is it too slight a thing for you to try the patience of men, that you will try the patience of my God as well? 14"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin shall conceive, be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. 15"He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good.… How was Christ conceived? Was it by the Holy Spirit? Would this then be a spotlessly clean conception? Yes, Yeshua is God Incarnate, the Incarnation is Jesus Christ come in the flesh, before this Incarnation, as with all pregnancies there is a conception, AND A VIRGIN SHALL CONCEIVE. Holy Spirit inception of her egg which becomes the Incarnate God. A LOWLY HANDMAIDEN, shown great mercy, in her is fulfilled -the promise to Abraham, BLESSED AMONG WOMEN, HIGHLY FAVORED , BLESSED IS THE FRUIT OF HER WOMB, JESUS! Though no one born of women is greater than John the Baptist yet the least , Mary a weaker vessel is greater than him. Her soul rejoices in God her Savior and at her yes she abides and can NOT sin. 1 John 3:4-12 King James Version (KJV) 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. 11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. 12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous. Why do you choose not to love Mary and the work God has done in her, why are you being like Cain when you ought to be like Abel? And since it was purposed for Christ and John to fulfill all righteousness, for the sake of all mankind, Mary too, was sanctified, and chosen to house and bring forth, and rear Christ, she least is greatest before all, and above all in the righteous providence of God. QUESTION: Was John HOLY and Righteous before or after Christ's crucifixion? When was John the Baptist Saved and made pure? It was in the sixth month of Elisabeth's pregnancy, when the Ark of the Covenant showed up at Elisabeth's home. Luke 1:39-45 Mary Visits Elizabeth 39 In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a city of Judah, 40 and she entered the house of Zechari′ah and greeted Elizabeth. 41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be[a] a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.” I will prove she is the Ark of the Covenant with scripture in another thread. Those who do the will of Christ's Father in heaven are too like an Ark of the Covenant, but through what was purposed for her first ,they can not be if they reject God's exalting of Mary, she is not exalted above Yeshua but because of Yeshua. Matthew 12:50 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” So, both Mary and John the Baptist are special cases in that they were sanctified and instantly BORN AGAIN by the Holy Spirit for the purpose of Christ to begin the laying of the foundation which is Himself. It is His story, His religion, His will. Mary was purposed for beauty not menial use. Romans 9:20 20But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to Him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21Does not the potter have the right to make from the same lump of clay one vessel for beauty and another for menial use?… It is no menial task she was given. Where is your love. In Mary Israel is exalted, this is the meaning of Jacobs ladder, Jacob is called Israel by God therefore is a symbol of Israel's exalting, that is for another post. All the generations of Abraham are numbered among the stars in her, through the generations who call her Blessed. And those who receive her are too highly favored. Luke1:42-44 Mary Visits Elizabeth …42In a loud voice she exclaimed, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 I too am favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44For as soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy.… Depending if these scriptural truths are permitted to be expressed here , will determine if I will address the Ark of the New and Everlasting Covenant. I will conclude the RCC is the harlot but the big picture you miss, for even God uses a Harlot for His desired end. The Aha GOTCHA! moment is for Satan.
  5. All the denominations are in for a rude awakening, not just the RCC either. The fall of many kings and their thrones will rest upon the Woman of Rev.12. Not all things are what they seem, all denominations today which follow or come after the Harlot are the result of the Harlot. They are the offspring of her adulteries. After the fall of Babylon( which the Harlot rides on the back of) all present day denominations will cease to be , the Hallelujah will commence, Rev.19. Blessed are those who are called to the Wedding feast of the Lamb! "Heaven and EARTH will pass away but MY Words shall always remain". As for purgatory if you are going to address it, address it with the knowledge of scripture. Why do some denominations believe in purgatory, and not just the RCC does either, that which predates the RCC do too, that which man calls Orthodox. Can you tell me why, and what scriptures they use to base their beliefs? I know the answer, but perhaps you can elaborate? All these denominations predate what you represent, you who has the reputation of being ALIVE but are dead, whose works are not complete before the Father of my Lord.HMM? Those denominations have become lazy or have stopped in their pursuit in Wisdom, they have in some cases removed their stand from upon the Word, they have many shortcomings, but so do those which have a reputation for being ALIVE but are dead. HMM? Those of the mind frame of "RED ONES" are missing a precious gem. If you know the name and remember, Yeshua will remember your name to His Father? Another words, you are hypocrites pointing your fingers at other denominations and not even hearing what the Spirit is saying to all churches. What is the Spirit saying to you and yours? Once everyone of this time gets it right, they are His Words, not a denomination but a member of the body of Christ, called out of denominations which all hold falsehoods. Think about it, if you stand solely upon the Word who can claim authority over you? Does your denomination or Christ? Are sure your denomination is 100% right? If proven it is 100% right , by all means cast out the beam from an other's eye. If Not the Word will condemn you. So, prove the lie of purgatory, remember research the scriptures which other denominations use to support this belief. Keep in mind, scripture will not implode on itself, for a house divided can not stand. Scripture against scripture makes no sense but true understanding of it does. The foundation has been laid. 1 CORINTHIANS 3:11-13 Christ Our Foundation …11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work.… 2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. The Word is profitable for doctrine, so is this doctrine of purgatory supported by scripture, when you answer, I will. If the doctrine of PURGATORY is gold, silver or precious stone it will stand if wood , hay or straw it will be revealed with fire, that fire the HOLY SPIRIT. Is this the DAY? One final note and reiteration: Yeshua can not be ensnared by a denomination, He is the foundation. I do not believe any one denomination holds all truth in regard to doctrines. But the Word, the foundation proves what is true in each of them. I am non denominational, I test all that which precedes me I do not believe in anything that can not be support by scripture. 1Corinthians3:10-13 10According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. I test ALL BUILT according to the foundation -scripture. It will determine what will and will not stand upon the foundation. AGAIN: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. AGAIN: Scripture is profitable for doctrine, doctrine is what man builds upon the foundation. Some doctrine is gold, silver and precious stone and will not burn, but the wood, hay and stubble will.
  6. LUKE1: 42And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, "Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb! "
  7. Is Christ the NEW AND EVERLASTING COVENANT? That is what we are discussing. And since you can not do the confessing of the faith then, I will not cast my pearls before swine!
  8. Now her womb is separated from her flesh. Give me a break! Thus is why the walls are going to fall down!
  9. Read what was placed before you. With the Holy Spirit we learn . Since this is the first confessing Luke1:28 by an angel and Luke1:42 by a person, then it is the "Confessing" also, it is the confessing that is the test, in 1John 4:1-6. For John said all spirits must confess this."2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confes- seth that JESUS CHRIST is come in the flesh is of God: That means all spirits! This in man and angels. John knows Christ is God that is why he says JESUS CHRIST is come in the flesh, for Jesus Christ is God Incarnate," The Incarnation", and whose flesh did Jesus Christ come in? John does not say , EVERY SPIRIT THAT CONFESSETH THAT GOD HAS COME IN THE FLESH OF JESUS CHRIST IS OF GOD. This is what False lying spirits in the guise of the word "Christians "who interpret 1John4:2 as saying. This is deception, and is because the devils can not and will not exalt Mary as God has. This false interpretation denies the Holy Spirit conception of Jesus Christ. God is begotten and not made. Devils, demons fallen angels, whatever, can not and will not do this, this is different than- them knowing who Christ is and was born of a Virgin. This is exaltation! The glorifying of the "Incarnation" which is not God en- tering into Jesus but God who is Jesus entering into a vessel of flesh. For Christ is truly God. He, becoming God in man happened in Mary and no other thing can come to be of the faith without this Incarnation. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The Holy Trinity. To deny the "Confessing" of the "Incarnation" is denial that Christ is God, begotten and not made. Devils get some to believe , God is made, when actually God was conceived and made a man, in Mary. Tricky! Satan is sly but God is WISE! And now brings us to more clearly understand Christ words:Matthew 7:21-23King James Version (KJV) 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. As I said: Many people think they are Christian and think they are doing mighty deeds in Christ' name. Christ is letting them know they only used His name. They where never in Him because they deny the "Incarnation". They do and say a lot of Jesus this and Jesus that, yet can not do and will not do the "Confessing". We are called to test all spirits as the Elect, by Luke1:28 and Luke1:42. It is putting the Ark of the New Covenant before entering into fellowship ,many will fall before it. It is the tool used for going into battle and coming out Victorious! If you go to many forums as lots of people seeking fellowship do and ask those there to confess Luke1:28 and Luke 1:42 many there will not. You will most likely be verbally attacked by most there. It is amazing the Power of the Word! God Bless! No , I think not , he says specifically 1John:2 " BY THIS YOU KNOW THE SPIRIT OF GOD: every spirit which confesses that Jesus has COME IN THE FLESH is of God. So what was Elisabeth's Holy Spirit greeting saying? Is it the confessing that Jesus came in the flesh, before all other people could say it? Yes or NO? Now again in whose flesh was the performance done in? From scripture , answer. Guess what , Elisabeth already did the work for you in this knowledge. You do not need to spell check either. Her words are self explanatory.
  10. And news flash, this confessing took place by an angel who needs not to be" Born Again" and Elisabeth who was the first BORN AGAIN outside of Mary who was Christ's first work of Christianity confessed this before you were even conceptualized . For both received the Holy Spirit before anyone, that includes me or anyone after them. So, you weren't even in that present type- equation, you are NOT the foundation, the first to know are. Again the PERFORMANCE was done in whose flesh or as you say , "JUST A VESSEL". Just a vessel would not be blessed or favored. You speak of her with disrespect, and common terms. But I guess this should be expected from a common vessel purposed for menial task. Romans 9:20-22King James Version (KJV) 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: She is the MOST HIGHLY HONOURED VESSLE among women and men, even Higher than Enoch, for most truly and LITERALLY SHE WALKED WITH GOD! If you will not, or cannot confess Luke1:28 and Luke1:42, then surely- you of this lot: Matthew 7:21-23King James Version (KJV) 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. For you do not do the will of Christ's Father if you reject the truths presented." Catch me the little foxes". The Lord always lets people know His verdict before it is executed! The Woman of REV.12 Marches ON!
  11. So what you are saying , if I understand correctly, is that this" The Incarnation" which makes her blessed , is Not what the confessing includes? So, you have rejected her willing participation as part of the 'Incarnation" and God's blessing on her? When Elisabeth clearly say: Luke 1:45King James Version (KJV) 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord. So, in whose flesh was the PERFORMANCE of the Lord done? Will you confess for me:Luke1:28 beginning after- he said, and also Luke1:42 after the words with a loud cry, Please type out as you confess the words of scripture.
  12. Lastly can you take Mary out of the Incarnation of Christ equation- the miracle took place in her ? Was the great work done unto to her? KJV For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. What great things, if she is NOT part of the INCARNATION OF CHRIST? Again you have not answered the question: do the Luke1 accounts fit the bill for confessing 1John4:1-6, yes or no?
  13. And you are right, He does know that which is His and they know Him. That is not the question. Mathew 7 is for those who think they are His, and think they know Him.
  14. So, are you saying this is not the confessing that Christ has come in the flesh, The Incarnation? Are the scriptural verses In Luke 1 a glorifying of the Incarnation, and do they fit the bill for 1John4:1-6, yes or no?
  15. It would seem the questions are simple enough.....the scriptural statements-self explanatory yet no response? Well, I guess silence speaks volumes.
  16. 1John4:1-6 1 John 4:1-6King James Version (KJV) 4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. With that said, my question is : Does Luke1:42 fit the bill and is this the confessing that John says must happen to know if the spirit is of God or not? Luke: and she exclaimed with a loud cry, "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb." Is this what all spirits- in man and from heaven must confess? And is this what Christ meant by this: Matthew 7:21-23New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) Concerning Self-Deception 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’ So, does this all tie in together- since it was by the Holy Spirit that Elisabeth said what she said? Because we learn she said this when she was immediately filled with the Holy Spirit with Christ presents in her house in Mary. Since Elisabeth was the first to make this confessing, is this the confessing in 1John 4:1-6 that he says is necessary as the authenticity of true followers of Christ? And is it what Christ was referring to concerning true Christians? Further, did Elisabeth do the will of Christ's Father in heaven in this confessing? Is this what Christ meant concerning this: Matthew 12:50New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
  17. Rev17-18 speaks to the sins and retribution which is coming for the Vatican. The Lord calls the true believers to come out of her my people Rev.18 :4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying "Come out of her, my people, lest you receive her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped up high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. So, obviously there are true believers in the RCC. For Christ calls them to come out of her. I believe the retribution that comes upon the Harlot will happen after the resurrection of the Two Witnesses. The Masonic Vatican and Government are who kill them. The Vatican is part of the punishment which comes as the second Woe. The first Woe Rev.12:12 is when they will begin their prophesy. And if you read Rev 11:11-14 this reveals the second woe. The second woe will be herald in by the second trumpet. Rev8:8. The first trumpet heralds in the the first woe of Rev.12:12. This is when satan is cast to earth by Our fellow servant and friend Micheal the Arch Angel. At this point satan will not be able to ascend to even the first heaven or what man calls space. We know at the fall of man he was cast out of the tenth heaven, which was the throne room of God which Lucifer served. Isaiah 14:12 The book of Enoch speaks to all the levels of heaven and now at this battle he will be relegated to only the earth. This is the blow to the head that I have spoken to in many of my post , which for the most part have been rejected. I will still continue to give a heads up as to what is coming. The Rev12 sign that appeared this past Sept. 2017 is the sign of what is shortly to follow in Rev12:12. When the fullness of the male child is delivered in the souls of man, He who was caught up to God and His throne. This means when the number of souls which are to be born again in the spirit is full and the true understanding of scripture and prophecy is made clear through the Bride, governed by Wisdom- satan's power is diminished. The beast out of the sea will receive a blow. I will not reveal the image of the beast in this forum yet. The sixth seal reveals what the kingdoms and the people of them will do Rev.6:12. This will primarily destroy Gentile nations. The witnesses will arrive on the seen after this. They are part of the nourishment time for the Bride. After their prophecy the beast out of the abyss which is the beast out of the earth Rev13:11, will kill them. Satan will have at this point entered a human vessel, this will happen when the beast that will retreat into the earth and under the mountains Rev6:12. Rises up. He will speak great blasphemies and wage war on the saints. This is when the mark of the beast will be instituted. I understand what the mark of the beast is and the number. I will not reveal that yet either until I see how some of my responses are received. There will be new kingdoms part of the beast system at this point. I understand who the beast kingdoms are now Rev13:1-4. The reason the revealing of prophecy is happening is because the birth of the true church has happened. The New wine the best wine is saved for last. The mystery of the Wedding Feast at Canaan. If you are familiar with any of my post you will understand. God Bless!
  18. I have no problem WITH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST. I didn't say you said all Catholics are heretics. I said I do not believe all RC's are heretics. And I have said in some of my post that SOME CATHOLICS ARE HERETICS. And I will say it once more here LOUD AND CLEAR! I DO NOT ASCRIBE TO THE HERETICAL TEACHINGS OF ANYONE! NOT PJP2, NOT RATZINGER , NOT POPE FRANCIS , or any other Pope in Roman Catholic history who does not stand on the INFALLIBLE DOCTRINE OF SCRIPTURE. PAPAL INFALLIBILITY SHOULD BE STATED AS FOLLOWS: A POPES INFALLIBILITY IS AS INFALLIBLE AS THE WORD HE KEEPS AND FOLLOWS. You are as infallible as the word you keep. THAT WORD SHOULD BE CHRIST'! It is the infallible doctrine of scripture which makes you infallible. No discord when scripture is obeyed! I do not ascribe to the heretical teachings of your protestant fathers either. And actually the gospel is not Protestant , it is non denominational and it is THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST! I will also add, my response is for all not just you. And fits into the narrative of many discussions concerning the RCC which everyone here addresses concerning me. I am NON DENOMINATIONAL. I do see truths though in denominations.
  19. You know not the meaning of being saved. Defend the gospel not mans errors. Christ forgave His enemies and His enemies were the Jews. One does not err, when in the fullness of salvation. When St. Peter fell he got back up and stayed up because he became born again of the spirit. Christ completed His growth and Peter was the rock, as Christ said he would be. Your John Calvin preached nothing but sin- original- the sins of Mary- man is nothing but a sinner. No wonder you defend the errors of men, you can not escape your own sin. John Calvin overlooked the Rite of baptism instituted through John the Baptist for the cleansing away of ORIGINAL SIN and Baptism of the Holy Spirit which Miriam Received to bring forth Christ. Your protestant fathers have warped your mind. John Calvin, over looks the payment on the cross. SIN- SIN-SIN!!!! Where is the act of Salvation? Where is salvation for MAN! Get a grip will you! Martin Luther tried to reach out in love? He failed! He resorted to antisemitism! DEFEND THE WORD NOT THE ERRORS OF MEN!
  20. Yeah, I guess you did butcher this up- like you Protestants butcher up the gospel. I love how you use scripture against scripture when you feel something does not fit your narrative. Do you think the scripture will implode on itself?Tell me what does this mean John 20:21 Jesus said to them again, " Peace be with you. As the Father sent me even so I send you." ( Before I go on with scripture what doe "AS" mean in this verse or "EVEN SO" mean?) And when He said this He breathed on them, and said to them , "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any they are retained." You say we are not mediators- and to support your claims you use this scripture against the one I placed 1Timothy 2: 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ,. I have not denied that truth. Yet you use this as an argument against what Christ says in John 20:21. Who are you protesting against? It is very simple . Who are we suppose to be like? Who is the example God gave to man? Obviously he is the only mediator between God and men. And the men he chooses are what?, between man and Himself (Christ)? If you preach the gospel and you believe you have a truth to speak in whose name do you speak it? On whose behalf do you come? What does the word Mediator mean? Both of us are right! Because both scriptural verse are right! My understanding is not wrong, I know we are to be as He is. This is attained only through Him though. As for what Protestant sect you are of, matters not, though you did have Martin Luther's picture up on one of your post. Still no difference to your confusion. I find it interesting how everyone here feels I am RC. I am moderated for responding to verbal attacks by others here? Curious? To have even mentioned Miriam mother of our Lord sent everyone into panic mode. Curious? As to confessing your sins- I believe what James 5:16 says: Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects. If you confess your sins to a righteous man of God that is no sin- if he forgives you in the name of Christ that is not a sin. Is a RIGHTEOUS man hard to come by these days? Absolutely. I believe then -that this is a personal choice to go to confession to a person who acts like a shepherd to a soul. There is certainly no sin in confessing. And I believe all desire to confess is a desire to be forgiven and seek out Christ. With that said; I look at the dialogue between Yeshua and Miriam, this account: Luke 2:48-51 , And when they saw Him they were astonished; and His mother said to Him, " Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been looking for you anxiously." And He said to them, " how is it that you sought me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?" And they did not understand the saying which He spoke to them. And He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and His Mother kept all these things in her heart. What does this dialogue reveal? Your John Calvin and many here who ascribe to the belief in the sins of Mary say she sinned. Is it a sin for a mother to care for her child? Is it a sin to be concerned, especially when people sought to KILL your child for who He is? NO! She was His mother. The dialogue between them was in WISDOM. It is for the BELIEVERS to understand its meaning. For Miriam and Joseph were and are believers. MEANING OF THIS DIALOGUE TO BELIEVERS: (They did not understand the meaning of the saying which He spoke) this means there is a meaning behind it- as with all dialogue between He and His Mother. It is a dialogue in WISDOM- Miriam says " Why have you treated us so" What did Yeshua do? He made them look everywhere for Him. That is what believers do. We seek Him everywhere in denominations and in other people. His response, " How is it that you sought Me?" he pointing out they sought for Him everywhere but where? He answers, "Did you not know I must be in My Fathers house?" This- though posed as a question- is an answer. What is His Father's House? What is the vessel of a man? it is the Temple of the Living God! We are to seek the male child within REV.12. How do we do this? Or rather who do we do this with? Who pondered all these things in her heart? Do you believe it was not for her to know? Or is it for her to reveal at the proper time? What did the Sept. 23rd sign mean? What does the Rev.12 prophecy mean? Dare I speak the name of Miriam to you? Trust me I speak not as the RCC speaks but as one given wisdom to understand. This has not been revealed by the RCC. It is for me to reveal to you and others. Do others have the understanding I do? I hope so because this is an awfully big responsibility for one soul. Continuing with meaning: Miriam, if she is the Mother of the Head she has to be the Mother of the Body? Do you get this? Think about it? does this mean we are to worship her? No! It does mean we are to venerate her though. What does veneration mean? Where is it in the scripture? It is revealed in Luke 1:39-56. Please have your bible on hand I do not want to do a data dump of so much of information on what is already written. It is in this encounter that Mary is venerated and praised. All should venerate her-Meaning of veneration: FROM A DICTIONARY-DEEP, RESPECTFUL LOVE, ADORATION. Miriam is in the woman's court of God. What is the women's court? Now if would read John10:22 It was the Feast of the Dedication at Jerusalem it was winter Yeshua (Jesus) was walking in the temple in the portico of Salomon, this is what was the women's portion of the court, better known as Solomon's porch on the east side of the temple. Feel free to look this up.In God's kingdom he has a place for Miriam which her purpose is to nurture the male child of the soul, till the male child reaches maturity and becomes independent of her. Without her nurturing the male child within is stunted in growth. Protestants say the Rosary is wrong due to the repetition of the words. Can you tell me what words are not biblical? And if you meditate on the scriptures suggested in the Rosary where is the sin? Is there sin in the number of times? I'm sure you have posted the same scripture thousands of times with you rebuttals. It is in the women's court that Christ is revealed as God, and we are to be like Him. The Jews wanted to stone Him for this. It is in the Woman, Miriam and the court assigned to Her that this is revealed. Those her reject her role are not obedient to God the Father. Matthew7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me 'Lord,Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but He who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord' did we not prophesy in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' and then will I declare to them ,'I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.' You do not properly understand Rev12. nor do you understand Rev. 22 The tree of Life is Wisdom and wisdom is a she . Read Proverbs 4. Now who is at God's side at creation and whom did he pour forth on all creation. I am not speaking about the Word , who is the beginning, who was with God and was God. I said beside- at His side. Read Sirach 1. Now you might be inclined to say:" Wisdom can not be embodied of a woman." I say why not? Who would have to be by the Lords side on earth as in heaven. Who is full of grace and BLESSED AMONG WOMEN? This means all women RIGHT? Who is the WOMAN of Genesis 3:15 and what is the enmity? The enmity is the HOLY SPIRIT in whom Wisdom dwells. And this , Miriam was filled with at the immaculate conception and Incarnation of Christ. Was the conception of Christ spotless and clean? Was Her flesh made Immaculate in order to carry and rear Christ? Would God the Father place The Messiah in a corrupt vessel? She was immaculately conceived herself when the Holy Spirit came and over shadowed her. She became the living vessel in flesh for Wisdom in full. Hence meaning of FULL OF GRACE. This had to be. For wisdom was at the side of the Word in heaven. Therefore had to be on earth. I can continue to explain- will you get it? Only God knows! Now, when given to John at the cross, she was given to the Churches care. John did not worship her but was to care for her and protect her. Not judge and condemn her as a sinner as John Calvin did and many Protestants do. The men of the church are to protect her dignity and respect the graces given to her by God the Father who made her full of grace, Luke 1: 26-38. This is to mans great reward. For Kings are made by her and receive kingdoms the reward of their wisdom, proportioned to them through whom all graces flow. Wisdom bears her fruit 12 months a year. Rev.22. And her leaves are for the healing of the nations. What do leaves reveal? What do leaves tell? Is this a physical tree? Or symbolic of something deeper? Is God placing a common tree above man? Do you talk to trees, do trees respond? NO! The symbolism of the leaves are messages. Leaves tell the changing and coming of a new season. They sing of birth, new life, death and regeneration. That is what Miriam's messages do for the body of Christ. She only Glorifies her son. The fruits she yields are children of Wisdom who reveal the will of Christ. Her role in the church is revealed in the Visitation to Elisabeth. She visits souls. How is it that we too should be highly favored that the Mother of our Lord should come to visit us. How could the child within us not leap for joy? She says of herself ," from generation to generation all people shall call me blessed. What generations? For their are many who do not call her blessed.Did God the Father fulfill His promise to Abraham in her? Did he not say your seed will number amongst the stars of heaven to Abraham? Was Miriam an ark of the covenant when carrying and caring for Christ? Is Christ the New and Everlasting Covenant? Is an Ark only as Holy as what it carries and presents? Its Holiness is reflective of what is inside. Is Miriam Holy? Is being in a state of sin a state of Holiness? So, how can she be holy according to your John Calvin's teachings? People should only follow scriptural based doctrines. The RCC church does not teach in this way. Yes Miriam appeared to people in this denomination, they are not of it. For many centuries the RCC was all western civilization had. I do not believe all Catholics were heretics and bad. That is foolishness. She preserved many souls from being corrupted by the false teachers of the Vatican whom she- in her messages always speaks out against. Do I believe all apparitions ascribed to her by every person who says Miriam (Mary) came to me? NO! I know which ones are true though. I test according to- 1 John 4. And I know the dragon is ever before Her to devour the male child whom she brings forth to our souls. He lies about her and her messages as the Vatican does, he rejects all teaching about her as the Protestants and all its sects do. He is ever present in this sinful world with its devices. Proverbs 8- please read. Satan is ever before Israel preventing the fullness of the Gospel from being brought forth, through false religions whom Israel follows and Israel has only given birth to air. Read now Isaiah chps.26-27. You will then understand the blow to the head which is revealed in Revelation 13. The Beast out of the sea. I know the image of the beast as well. That is for another time. But the blow to head of the beast out of the sea is coming. When this happens the New Church, the New and Best wine ,saved for Last- meaning: for the last days- will teach Israel. This is the mystery of the dialogue at the Wedding Feast at Canaan. Not a dialogue in sin but in Wisdom. I will end there. Praise be to the Lord God Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, of all things seen and unseen. I do not believe she is co- redemptrix either. Salvation only come through Christ whom she points us towards and nurtures in us and desires to bring forth. Miriam was part of the first church and she is part of the Last- in truth. I see you believe talking to Miriam and the apostles is like talking to the dead? Read Rev.5:6-9. heaven is a Kingdom in which God administers gifts and positions. Any one can see this who reads scripture guided by the Holy Spirit- and the Book of Revelation is full of this understanding. It is time for you to stop thinking with the mind of a child, I pray God gives you growth. NO ONE IN THE BODY CHRIST DIES. THE SOUL IS ETERNAL. The dead are in hell I do not speak to them.
  21. The Immaculate conception as you have conveyed it is not as I conveyed it. You are Lutheran from what I gather from your post. I agree with Martin Luther's stand against the RCC concerning indulgences. I do not agree on his works concerning Jews stating: Their homes and synagogues should be destroyed and their money confiscated and( liberty curtailed)-( SURPRISINGLY what I experience in this forum). I know many of his followers reject this antisemitism. But he still taught this and believed it. Which sounds a lot like the RCC and what it did in history when people disagree with its heads. And will do in the future. He is right that it is only through grace given by God that man is saved. Romans 11:6- all of Romans should be read. Some of what he believed is untrue though . And this speaks to the possible fallibility of his teaching's, therefore all of it should be sifted through and revisited by those who follow his denomination. I do not believe in the Infallibility of the Popes either. I also believe 1 Corinthians 7 concerning marriage and celibacy is very clear. It is a suggestion by St. Paul to remain as he (unmarried) not a command from God. But it is good to remain unmarried, if you desire and can. I do not disagree with Luther concerning clergy being married. Marriage in God and celibacy in God are both good! I am non denominational. I believe in the history of Christianity and I do not believe it is a denomination. The body of Christ is non denominational. I do not believe every Catholic is a liar and heretic. I believe there are people of faith in all denominations. Where did the concept of immaculate conception come from? And based on that we should start our debate and discussion to prove whether it is factual or not. It has to be looked at. As a non" denominational forum "( which I do not believe), we as seekers should be able to explore all denominational beliefs and test the spirits. 1 John 4. This means without bias and preconceived notions. Dare I say "HONEST JUDGEMENT". This forum censors what it does not understand, it hides true dialogue taking place and misinterprets my post. The song of Mary is very clear! She said her soul rejoices in GOD HER SAVIOUR. You are elaborating on what I said. So the argument which remains is- meaning of Immaculate Conception. If you wish to go there openly with me I would be delighted. And I, humbly before God will explain. For I am not indoctrinated. I would also, be happy to address John Calvin's lack of understanding of dialogue between Yeshua and Miriam -(this to the blessing of the end time church. ) Can sincere discussion and debate take place?, with the end goal being not a denomination prevailing but truth? For I believe there is truth in all christian denominations and fallibility. But the body of Christ is infallible, whose head is Christ.
  22. I understand what you are saying. I will propose some radical ideas, of a non denominational type. You may disagree. I have learned here- most will never move from more traditional teachings. They tend to stick with the obvious and basic. This is good for less evolved minded people who do not meditate on anything concerning the God head. You may say my views are from the RCC. That is fine. I just understand- truth is truth. And yes you may say it is only truth to me. I am still not sure why saying Miriam (Mary) is the Immaculate Conception because she immaculately conceived- is wrong? I have heard many say she sinned, I believe that is wrong. Being non denominational( as I am) I do not believe every single Catholic thought. Nor do I believe every single Catholic throughout history is a heretic. Also, I do not believe John Calvin spoke from the Holy Spirit concerning his views and personal interpretations of scripture . He saw dialogue with Miriam and Christ as a revealing of Miriam's (Mary's) sinful nature. I do not. Will I be allowed to share my views concerning the messaging to the Body of Christ that was actually taking place between them? You tell me? Or are you - as so many- so indoctrinated you will not see the messages in Wisdom that are actually being conveyed, to the Elect of the LAST HOUR? So where does that leave us. If you ascribe to a denomination it may be hard to let go of indoctrination. So, I propose- I will post a thesis concerning this topic: ( The Sins Of Mary)- for discussion. As seekers we must address all topics of all denominations- with one simple goal- uncovering the truth. I do not believe Christianity is a denomination. I believe it is a journey which speaks to the experiences of its chosen in the Judaeo Christian faith- from its inception. I sincerely desire without bias to understand all denominational view points. I do not seek to be attacked or to attack anyone. I believe people really desire to share what they know and believe without being label jezebel or heretic. I do believe some fall under these headings when the basis of you argument is proven, yet still rejected. If a truth is spoken and can not be dismantled then it should stand without bias or altering. I will be careful to post clearly, such as to say ( GOD INCARNATE) concerning Yeshua and not just refer to Him as God- which He is to me. I do not think in my post Immaculate Conception I spoke of Yeshua's mom as being present at Creation by God's side. Now that you bring this up, I will look into the RCC's and others teachings. I will look at what scripture says concerning Wisdom and what Solomon was saying. I will also go to books not submitted by RCC persons who considered them to not be God inspired, (not based on proof- but opinion). I will expect arguments against what I post, or if an argument can not be made against it- well I am sure you know it will not be posted. As have many of post not been. As I said I do not believe Christianity is a denomination. Denominations seek to dominate people and are always bias and only plead the case of its members. The Body Of Christ is non denominational I will plead its case.
  23. Blueyed: This is very true. I cannot argue with that. God IS. Know one gave birth to Him as far as the Father goes. I will remember to put God Incarnate. I automatically assume everyone knows what I mean. I have to realize- that for me it is simple, He who sees the Son sees the Father. The Father has given everything to the Son. The fullness of deity is in Christ. Know one has seen the Father except the Son. My existence of God post , I believe is very clear as to my understanding of God the Father and the Word. But I will be more exact for those who do not yet get where I am coming from. Thank you for pointing out the obvious to me though, on behalf of others. God Bless!
  24. So, the new doctrine you are trying to teach -( that is being placed before the woman who had brought forth the male child REV.12) Is the sins of Mary? Finding Jesus in the temple after three days she was wasn't concerned about him after all - I mean considering people sought to kill the child. She was sinning in Luke2:41-52 account. Your interpretation is the correct one? I have to tell you I never saw that dialogue in that way. And in the dialogue at the wedding feast your saying she sinned too- and lead her son into sin because He did what she requested?, kind of like the first Adam ,this is what you are saying? (WEDDING FEAST AT CANAAN JOHN1-12)? I have to say the sins of Mary is a new approach to the gospel. So , you are correcting my writing above and placing this doctrine before for it? This is definitely the Matrix. What else do you have to teach, you said there are other sins she committed that you can not think of here at the moment? Oh, another question-" THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" can you tell me what this means? Is it the Vatican that is Mother of them, and what are the abominations of the earth she has given birth to? Did she give birth to Buddhism? Hinduism? and all the other pagan faiths which existed before her? Are these what spawned up from her adulteries? Or is it something else?
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