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  1. 20 hours ago, Mr. M said:

    Matthew 11:

    9 But what did you go out to see? A prophet?

    Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. 

    10 For this is he of whom it is written:

    ‘Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
    Who will prepare Your way before You.’

    11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women

    there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist;

    but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 

    12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now

    the kingdom of heaven suffers violence,

    and the violent take it by force. 

    13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

    Name one more?

    Jesus.

  2. 12 hours ago, Jayne said:

    You ARE aware that just as many prophecies in the Bible are dual - the term, "the day of the LORD" has both near and distant fulfillments.

     

    Day of the Lord

     

    I've heard people say there are many days of the Lord but they have to change the spelling and meaning weof the word to fit their agenda.

     

  3. 12 hours ago, abcdef said:

    Look at the Middle east.

    Iran is attacking Jerusalem, they are not quite there yet, but they will take Jerusalem.

    Whenever that happens, 3 1/2 days later is the resur/rapt (the 2nd resurrection) when Jesus comes for the kingdom and this material world ends.

    --

    The timelines in the Rev are parallel. They are centered on the flesh children of Israel both believing and unbelieving, and the beast nation. (The gentile side of the kingdom/church is hardly mentioned, but is mentioned in Rev 12:17 as the remnant of her seed.)

    The 7th trumpet shows the same event as the 7th vial/bowl, and they both show the same events as Rev 20, basically.

    What happens just before those events is shown in the 6th trumpet, the 6th vial, and when Magog surrounds Jerusalem in Rev 20. 

    They all show the same thing.

     Armies from Iran, the kings of the east across the Euphrates River from Jerusalem, crossing the River, with the armies of the earth Magog, surrounding Jerusalem, and Jerusalem falls.

    They all show the same thing, and we are here, watching it happen, just before the 7th trumpet,the 7th vial, and the fire from heaven.

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    You say 4 years? Could be, I don't know. Maybe more, but maybe less, maybe a lot less, maybe only months, could be 9 or 10 months possibly, maybe a few years, but I don't think it will be long, because the call is made that the Bridegroom is coming for the kingdom at the 7th trumpet.

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    Will the American government send aid? Who is stopping the Aid? It could be too late already. What if they NEVER send aid and the powers against Israel grow?

    Israel is half the size of the Netherlands, half the size of Belgium, how long do you think that they can stand against Russia, Iran, and the powers of the Middle East?

    Look, I'm not saying that things can't change and get better, I hope that happens. 

    I know the prophecies must come true. God/ Jesus gave us these things to know when He is coming.

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    The beast is Rome and can ONLY be Rome.

     

    Iran doesn't take Jerusalem till 3.5 years after the United states has given Israel an army to defend it.The army will occupy Jerusalem for 42 months.

  4. 36 minutes ago, other one said:

     I don't know where you get this idea, for I don't know any real christian who doesn't understand that Israel concerning the Gospel is still in a fallen state. However as Romans says we owe them a debt of gratitude.

     

    It's in the gospel.

  5. 9 minutes ago, Jayne said:

    I read your first two posts and said to myself -  {He's going to post a third time accusing us of being too dumb to answer]

    You don't disappoint.

    I'd like to know why YOU believe that these are the same events. And note, I already know why you think these are the same event.  I'd just like to hear you admit it.

     

    Why do I believe the nations ransacking houses and raping women on the day of the Lord are the same events as the nations  ransacking houses and raping women on the day of the Lord?

    Now that's a difficult question.I need to give that some thought .

    I will have to get back to you on that one.

  6. 9 minutes ago, other one said:

    None of us are going to agree with you, so I would suggest you just let it go.

    I understand. There's not many people who believe a christian could be beaten in the synagogues in Israel.

    They believe they will be beaten in the synagogues in the USA or China,but never Israel.Some feel that Israel is just to peaceful a people to persecute a follower of Christ.

     

     

    Mark 13

    But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

    10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

    11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

    12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

    13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

     

     

     

  7. Must be a really difficult question for some people.I tried to make it a simple question.

     

    How you going to explain away how the nations in Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women are going to.be in any other city on the same day doing the exact same thing?

     

  8. Well,im not shy.I will give Jesus an Amen.

     

    Mathew 23

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

     

     

     

    Amen

  9. 11 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

    Amen.

    Note the word ALL in Jesus's words . 

    Mathew 23

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

     

     

    You going to give Jesus an amen?

    No?

     

     

     

  10.  

    After the nations have attacked Jerusalem on the day of the Lord,the Lord fights against those nations.

     

    Zechariah 14

    Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

    And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

     

     

    After the ten kings have attacked the prostitute Babylon, the  Lord overcomes those kings.

     

    Revelation 17

    12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

    13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

    14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

    15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

    16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

  11. The day of the Lord.

    On the day of the Lord when all the nations come against Jerusalem ,Babylon is attacked .Their houses are ransacked and their wives raped.

     

    Now ,here is a simple question.

    If all nations have come against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ,ransacking the houses and raping the women as in zech 14:1-2,then how could they be anywhere else on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women in Isaiah 13:16?

    Pay attention to scripture.

     

    Zech 14

    14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

    For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

     

     

     

    Isaiah 13

    13 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see.

    Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.

     

    I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

    The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.

    They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

    Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

    Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:

    And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

     

    Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

    10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

    11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

    12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir.

    13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the Lord of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

    14 And it shall be as the chased roe, and as a sheep that no man taketh up: they shall every man turn to his own people, and flee every one into his own land.

     

    15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

    16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

     

  12. 1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

    No biblical mention at all for Egypt ever making such an attack in the End Times. Please avoid making such claims without biblical evidence to back them up.

    That's why the United states nukes Egypt at the time of the end.They should have known better but you know how Muslims are.

     

    Daniel 11:42

    He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape.
     

    They are going to burn real quick like.

     

    Zechariah 14:12

    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

  13. 1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

    No biblical mention at all for Egypt ever making such an attack in the End Times. Please avoid making such claims without biblical evidence to back them up.

    I've read of two mentions of Egypt making such an attack at end times.One of which is in zechariah and the other in psalms .

    According to the word of God as written by Zechariah ,the Lord sends a plague upon the nations that come against Jerusalem at the time of he end.

    This is the plague.

    Zechariah 14:12

    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

     

    According to the word of God,Egypt recieves this plague which the Lord  brings upon the people who have fought against Jerusalem.

     

    Zech 14:18-19

    18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

    19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

     

    The other metion of Egypt taking part in the war of armegeddon. When the Lord fights against the nations that have attacked Israel is in Psalms.83.

     

    Psalms 83

     

    See how your enemies growl,
        how your foes rear their heads.
    With cunning they conspire against your people;
        they plot against those you cherish.
    “Come,” they say, “let us destroy them as a nation,
        so that Israel’s name is remembered no more.”

    With one mind they plot together;
        they form an alliance against you—
    the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
        of Moab and the Hagrites,
    Byblos, Ammon and Amalek,
        Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
    Even Assyria has joined them
        to reinforce Lot’s descendants.[b]

    Do to them as you did to Midian,
        as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon,
    10 who perished at Endor
        and became like dung on the ground.
    11 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb,
        all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
    12 who said, “Let us take possession
        of the pasturelands of God.”

     

     

     

     

  14. 2 hours ago, other one said:

    I think Mr. M has the same rights to his thoughts as you do yours.  I don't agree with either of you, but I'm not going to make an issue of it.

    True.Hes not forced to believe Jesus prophecy.

     

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

  15. 2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

    Bring it on!

    Isaiah 31:4 For thus the Lord has spoken to me:

    “As a lion roars,
    And a young lion over his prey
    (When a multitude of shepherds is summoned against him,
    He will not be afraid of their voice
    Nor be disturbed by their noise),
    So the Lord of hosts will come down
    To fight for Mount Zion and for its hill.
    5 Like birds flying about,
    So will the Lord of hosts defend Jerusalem.
    Defending, He will also deliver it;
    Passing over, He will preserve it.”

    6 Return to Him against whom the children of Israel have deeply revolted. 7 For in that day every man shall throw away his idols of silver and his idols of gold—sin, which your own hands have made for yourselves.

    8 “Then Assyria shall fall by a sword not of man,
    And a sword not of mankind shall devour him.
    But he shall flee from the sword,
    And his young men shall become forced labor.
    9 He shall cross over to his stronghold for fear,
    And his princes shall be afraid of the banner,”
    Says the Lord,
    Whose fire is in Zion
    And whose furnace is in Jerusalem.

    The Banner is already raised.

    nec [H5251] =ensign, standard, banner

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/h5251/kjv/wlc/23-1/#lexResults

    Ok,144000 out of ten million will recieve the mark of God in their foreheads.Look.at what happens to the rest.

    Ezekiel 9

    He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand.

    And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar.

    And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side;

    And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

    And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

     

    Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

    And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

    And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

    Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The Lord hath forsaken the earth, and the Lord seeth not.

    10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

    11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me.

  16. 2 hours ago, other one said:

    You're getting pretty personal there. Not everyone is going to agree with you, and they are allowed to disagree.

    Mr M says Jesus is speaking of the past when he prophecied that he will send prophets and apostles to Jerusalem to testify to them.

     

    Mathew 23

     

    34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

    38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

    39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

     

     

     

     

     

    Doesnt sound like the past to me.

  17. 36 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

    Romans 11:

    25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

    26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

    27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

    28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sake: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sake.

    29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

    30 For as ye in times past have not believed God,

    yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

    31 Even so have these also now not believed, that

    through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

    Isaiah 40:

    1 Comfort, yes, comfort My people!
    Says your God.
    2 Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
    That her warfare is ended,
    That her iniquity is pardoned;
    For she has received from the Lord’s hand
    Double for all her sins
    .

    Jerusalems warfare has not even started.lol

  18. 2 hours ago, other one said:

    You're getting pretty personal there. Not everyone is going to agree with you, and they are allowed to disagree.

    Jesus was very clear about who would kill his disciples .He didn't say anything about New York or Hong Kong.

    He said Jerusalem .The city  where he was crucified.The city who's leaders judged him and condemned him to death.

     

     

    Mathew 26:66

    What do you think?” “He is worthy of death,” they answered.

     

     

    People can argue all they want about who is responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon earth.They can blame Rome, Quebec,or Roanoke VA.

    Jesus blamed Jerusalem.Capital city of the beast from the sea.

     

     

     

     

     

  19. The little horn is the Israeli government and it's little kingdom.It came up last among the ten horns in 1948.It subdued three kings representing the governments of Syria,Jordan and Egypt in 1967 to take control of the seven hilled city of Jerusalem.

    It is not the same as the king of the north who gives the Israeli government a host to abolish the daily sacrifice.

     

    The little horn is the same as the first beast in revelation 13 and the host given to the little horn by the king of the north is the second beast in revelation 13.

     

    Daniel 8:12

    And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

  20. 9 hours ago, Mr. M said:

    Jesus most certainly does not say Jerusalem is responsible

    for all righteous blood shed upon earth!

    35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, 

    from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah,

    whom you murdered between the temple and the altar

    36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

    First, He defines precisely whom they are responsible for,

    "from righteous Abel to Zechariah, son of Berechiah",

    Second, He places the accountability directly on the shoulders of that generation.

    "all these things will come upon this generation".

    Since the destruction of Jerusalem and the second temple,

    countless saints have been murdered and martyred.

    Are you trying to place all that blood on Jerusalem?

    How did you arrive at that conclusion?

    There have been two temples and two judgments.

    Jerusalem has received double for all her sins.

    The word of the Lord for Jerusalem and by 

    the hand of the saints is Comfort.

    Isaiah 40:

    1 Comfort, yes, comfort My people!”
    Says your God.
    2 “Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
    That her warfare is ended,
    That her iniquity is pardoned;
    For she has received from the Lord’s hand
    Double for all her sins.”

    3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
    “Prepare the way of the Lord;
    Make straight in the desert
    A highway for our God.

    Romans 11:

    30 For as you were once disobedient to God,

    yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 

    31 even so these also have now been disobedient,

    that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy

    32 For God has committed them all to disobedience,

    that He might have mercy on all.

    Mark 1:

    1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 

    2 As it is written in the Prophets:

    “Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
    Who will prepare Your way before You.”
    3 “The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
    ‘Prepare the way of the Lord;
    Make His paths straight.’ ”

    No,Jesus does not say that generation.

    He says this generation.

     

    Do you know what the word generation can mean?It means any of these these things.

     

    Word: genea

    Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah'

    Strongs Number: G1074

    Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085

    Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine

    Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029

    1. 1) fathered, birth, nativity
      2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
      2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
      2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
      2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
      3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time
      4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied by each successive

     

     

     

    This generation has not come to its full end.There are many christians yet to die in the cities of Israel .They will be beaten in the synagogues ,put into prison ,and murdered right up to the time of the end.Their tribulation begins 3.5 years before the time of the end.

     

    Daniel 11:33-35

    Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

    During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

    And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

     

     

     

     

  21. Jerusalem is responsible for the deaths of all these Israeli Christians who die during the tribulation in Israel.

     

    Revelation 20

    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

  22. 6 hours ago, Mr. M said:

    Jesus most certainly does not say Jerusalem is responsible

    for all righteous blood shed upon earth!

    35 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, 

    from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah,

    whom you murdered between the temple and the altar

    36 Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.

    First, He defines precisely whom they are responsible for,

    "from righteous Abel to Zechariah, son of Berechiah",

    Second, He places the accountability directly on the shoulders of that generation.

    "all these things will come upon this generation".

    Since the destruction of Jerusalem and the second temple,

    countless saints have been murdered and martyred.

    Are you trying to place all that blood on Jerusalem?

    How did you arrive at that conclusion?

    There have been two temples and two judgments.

    Jerusalem has received double for all her sins.

    The word of the Lord for Jerusalem and by 

    the hand of the saints is Comfort.

    Isaiah 40:

    1 Comfort, yes, comfort My people!”
    Says your God.
    2 “Speak comfort to Jerusalem, and cry out to her,
    That her warfare is ended,
    That her iniquity is pardoned;
    For she has received from the Lord’s hand
    Double for all her sins.”

    3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
    “Prepare the way of the Lord;
    Make straight in the desert
    A highway for our God.

    Romans 11:

    30 For as you were once disobedient to God,

    yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 

    31 even so these also have now been disobedient,

    that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy

    32 For God has committed them all to disobedience,

    that He might have mercy on all.

    Mark 1:

    1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. 

    2 As it is written in the Prophets:

    “Behold, I send My messenger before Your face,
    Who will prepare Your way before You.”
    3 “The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
    ‘Prepare the way of the Lord;
    Make His paths straight.’ ”

    Read it again and try to pay attention to Jesus this time.

    Jesus said ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth.Not some.Not most.He said ALL.

     

    ALL

     

     

     

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

     

     

     

    Let us notice Jesus said Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth.Not China.Not Russia.Not Brazil,Not America.

     

    He said Jerusalem.Stop ignoring Jesus for goodness sakes.

  23. 1 minute ago, BlindSeeker said:

    As far as Israel being Babylon, I see no scriptural basis for it, especially in the usage of “Babylon” in the latter half of Revelation. Clearly, Jerusalem by God Himself is referred to as "the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."  But just because it is called "the great city" in Rev. 11:8, doesn't mean it is “that great city Babylon” mentioned in chapters 14-18, for the phrase “that great city” is used again, being mentioned in  Rev. 21:10 of the “New Jerusalem – “And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.”

    Babylon, strictly speaking, was but the capital of Chaldea, it too being “a great city,” and therefore the usage of “Babylon” is synonymous with the Chaldean empire. But Nineveh also was called “a great city,” as well as the cities Gideon and Ai, though Ai was admittedly not “as great” of a city.

    Furthermore, Jerusalem is not a port city, so why would “the merchants of the earth weep over her burning?” And wherein have they been “made rich, all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness?” 

    I certainly feel it takes considerably more squinting of the eye to see Israel as this prophetic “Babylon” than America which fits the description comfortably.

    BTW, a fun fact, there is a Babylon, New York, on the water just 20 miles from New York City. Also, New York City was the original capital of the USA, where George Washington was sworn in back in 1789.

     

    Good post. Thanks.

     

    Technically. But I hear Trump wants to change that, and sorry, I have no source for that. 
    But I would respond that it is impossible to separate it from the nation in reference to the wrath of God.
     

    You see no scriptural basis for Jerusalem to be Babylon?You must not be paying attention to the Lord.

     

    Mathew 23

     

    35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

    36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

    37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

     

     

    If Jesus is correct and Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth then what city is responsible for all the slain upon earth?

     

     

    Revelation 18:24

    And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth

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