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  1. Scripture means something and revelation of the spiritual Word should change our understanding of in what God's Word is trying to say. Yes we have a natural body but there is also a spiritual body and our natural body is a dust body and has only connection to our spirtual body on this realm of earth we cherish so much. 1 Corinthians 15: 44 It is sown a soulish body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a soulish body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living soul”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the soulish, and then the spiritual. 47The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.
  2. There is always a spirit. Ecclesiastes 12: 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. No there are not a combination of the two??? Chapter and verse please??? Believers worship the Father in spirit and truth. Deep within every man there is a secret sanctum where dwells the mysterious essence of his being. This inmost reality is that part of a man which separates him from every other living creature and makes him uniquely mankind. This deep hidden power is what it is of itself independent of any other part of the man’s complex nature. The deep-in human entity of which we speak is called in the scriptures the spirit of man. “For what man knoweth the things of man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God” (I Cor. 2:11). As This truth denies that man is an earthly, physical being having a spirit and declares, rather, that he is a spirit having a physical body. That which makes a man a human being is not his body but his spirit, in which the image of God originally lay. Most people on earth have forgotten their beginning. But the scripture is clear. “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness…and the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created He him” (Gen. 1:26; 2:7; 1:28). What God actually did was that He imaged Himself in man. God imaged Himself in man by forming Himself in a man of earth. Thus man was created as a visible expression of the invisible God. Now that hasn’t changed! What has changed is our perception of ourselves because of the fall. But before we discuss that, let us see just how it was that God imaged Himself in man, and how it is that man is a spiritual being having an earthly experience, instead of a physical being having a spiritual experience. Wonderful words were spoken at the very dawn of civilization, recorded in the oldest book of the Bible, which state simply and powerfully the reality of man. “There is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding” (Job 32:8).
  3. You seem to be totally ignoring a few things first thing is Genesis where God created Adam on the 6th day and yes you did mentioned the part on the seventh day Adam was became a dirt man a soul man but that fell under the seventh day. Formed/created sixth/seventh days these words were written in context for a purpose. I see Adam first being made in the image of God which is spirit. Than God set Adam up for the fall and made him a soul man a dirt man as you say. Second point the second death is good and so is judgement. God's seconds are always God's seconds are always better than His firsts which He gives to mankind. The second death is the death of death, spiritual death or death to the realm of Adam's death which is the first death . The New Testament also calls the first death as dead in trust passes and sins. The last point carnal man cannot choose nature to to reject Christ for he is not a spiritual man. God needs to call him first. 1 Corinthians 2: 14But the natural, nonspiritual man does not accept or welcome or admit into his heart the gifts and teachings and revelations of the Spirit of God, for they are folly (meaningless nonsense) to him; and he is incapable of knowing them [of progressively recognizing, understanding, and becoming better acquainted with them] because they are spiritually discerned and estimated and appreciated. No one has freewill to choose God. It was God will; not little Adams that Adam fell. Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Romans 3:11 (AMP) No one understands [no one intelligently discerns or comprehends]; no one seeks out God. Romans 3:11 (NCV) 11 There is no one who understands. There is no one who looks to God for help. Romans 3:9 (MSG) So where does that put us? Do we Jews get a better break than the others? Not really. Basically, all of us, whether insiders or outsiders, start out in identical conditions, which is to say that we all start out as sinners. Scripture leaves no doubt about it: There's nobody living right, not even one, nobody who knows the score, nobody alert for God. They've all taken the wrong turn; they've all wandered down blind alleys. No one's living right; I can't find a single one. Their throats are gaping graves,
  4. I see the Spirit was created on the sixth day where the soul and the body were formed on the seventh day if you literally look at Genesis is this how it is posted in context. Obviously there is a difference between creating and forming or it would of not been worded in context this way. I see the breath as God giving life to the soul man or flesh of man setting Adam up for the fall.
  5. If the Spirit leaves the body it returns to God who gave it. It is the soul that needs saving not the Spirit. Have you ever seen a spirit being saved in scripture. Jesus Preached to the Spirits in hell 1 Corinthians 15: 44 It is sown a soulish body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a soulish body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living soul”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the soulish, and then the spiritual. 47The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. Ecclesiastes 12: 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. 1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. “There is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding” (Job 32:8).
  6. Jesus went and preached to the Spirits in hell (grave/pit) "Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and “preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient”, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is eight souls were saved by water." (I Pet.3:18-20).
  7. I see the body and soul interconnected for was Adam was formed from the dust of the earth he became a living soul. Where the spirit is that part of God within us and was created not formed. Notice that there is a separation in Genesis of the created and the formed. Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Then we get to the next chapter and who how short or long this period is: Seventh Day: Genesis 2: 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Notice this is a totally new day, seventh day. Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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