ForHisGlory37

Hi Justpassingthru, God will not punish the righteous, He will protect us supernaturally just like He did for the Israelites in Goshen. Revelation 15 talks about the plagues being poured out and it will be effecting those who took the MOB and worshipped the anti-christ. Revelation 16 is God's wrath being poured out but if you read Revelation 16:15 Context 12And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. Did you see verse 15? Behold, I come as a thief in the night! That is also the same text in 1 Thessalonians 1 Thessalonians 5:2 Context 1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. We are here during the outpouring of the wrath of God upon the UNRIGHTEOUS. He protects His Saints, those that have not been killed. (probably not very many because most will have been martyred for the sake of Jesus' Name) this is also probably why we Christians will be so hated because while the unrighteous are suffering the plagues and wrath of God, we the Saints are untouched.

Yes, Frienduff, I had to ask the Lord to help me understand and to show me! He answers! I wanted the Holy Spirit to show me and God's Word says, that the Holy Spirit reveals all Truth. We just simply have to humble ourselves and ASK. Ask, Seek, and Knock. Matt 7:7. The Holy Spirit is my Teacher not any man.

Hi Montana Marv, I just thought maybe you forgot about this verse? Revelation 13:7 | And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Who are the Saints? We are the Saints.......

Hi Jostler, God's perfect love casts out all fear. We know that He is who He says He is. He always keeps His promises. We know that we will be supernaturally protected like the Israelites in Goshen when the plagues were being poured out upon Pharoah and Egypt. How about this verse: Revelation 6:6 “And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.” God said, "Hurt not the oil and the wine," which sybolize the Holy Spirit (Zechariah 4:3,6)and the blood of Jesus (Matt 26:26-29. Even though the Church was in darkness, God preserved His true Gospel of salvation. All true believers have the Holy Spirit and have been washed and cleansed by the Blood of Jesus.

foolish virgins will probably take the MOB, they could not "overcome" or "endure to the end" So Jesus will say, Depart from me, I never knew you.

It will most likely be the antichrist they will be looking for and not even know it. They will believe that the antichrist is their Messiah. How sad....

I think it all ties in together. Our spirits are feeling what is coming. These are the last days.

Nice to meet you too Jostler! I saw that we had written the same thing. I don't believe in coincidence either! Nice to meet you too Heleadethme!

Romans 5:20-21 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord. You are so right Heleadethme! I believe as sin abounds in the wicked, the Grace of God through the Power of the Holy Spirit will abound to the believers to stand firm to the end! We will be walking in great power of the Holy Spirit! Many will come to Christ as the church truly will be the purified and spotless bride through the Great Tribulation. And we will truly see all the gifts of the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ our Lord be made manifest like the early church in Acts. These signs, and wonders will help to draw the unbelievers (Mark 16:17-18). But of course the ac and the false prophet will also be showing their counterfeit lying signs and wonders. But we will also have the Two Witnesses proclaiming the Kingdom of God! Read Mathew 13:38-43 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. We believers will suffer persecution and tribulation but will not be affected when God is pouring out the plagues and bowls of wrath upon the wicked. Revelation 16:15 Behold I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. blessings,

But if you are sober and watching, you will notice that we are very close to those times. We are the last generation. Israel exists. The temple is about to be built. God has been gathering the Jews from all over. Knowledge is abounding. Look at all the earthquakes that have been happening more and more frequently. Redeem the time. I say BE READY, not get ready. God is going to shake everything.... the testing of our faith is coming. Are you going to be one of the wise virgins or like the foolish virgins? Jesus is coming soon! Repent! Purify yourselves and proclaim the Gospel of the Kingdom!

This is just me, but I believe that you are grieving for the wickedness going on, the apostasy that is present, and it says in Scripture that the whole earth is groaning .... Romans 8:22-25 22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. We are in the last days, get your house in order, seek the Father while there is still time, redeem your time, fill your time with things that will have eternal value. Be ready, judgment is coming.

Just because you don't see it occurring in your assemblies doesn't mean it's not happening around other parts of the world. It is because of the lack of faith. We believe in the supernatural power of God raising Jesus from the dead. We believe in the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit yet you cannot believe that He can operate today and by the Name of Jesus heal, raise people from the dead. These manifestations of the Glory and Power of God is happening in places where the Gospel is being preached for the first time. Maybe you need to examine why you don't see these miracles and healings displayed in your church enoob?

This is not gonna fly either because Jesus said, "MY SHEEP KNOW MY VOICE" Those who know the real Jesus is not going to be deceived by the father of lies. God ALWAYS GIVES US A WAY OUT, He always gives us free will, He is not going to allow us to be deceived into taking the MOB. We will definitely know what taking the MOB entails so your feeling that this is something that you can be deceived into taking and repenting of it, totally GOES AGAINST SCRIPTURE.

I don't think that you feeling that this is harsh or distasteful will make any difference when you are standing before GOD and having to explain yourself to HIM that you took the MOB (EVEN though it says in Revelation 14: 9-11 not to take the MOB) and thought you could repent from it. IT AINT GONNA FLY.... WE CANNOT GO ON FEELINGS BUT STAND ON THE WORD OF GOD.

Hi Evanna! Welcome to Worthy! I too walked away from the Lord a long time ago, in my early 20's but the Lord always was waiting right there for me to come back to Him. Read the story of the prodigal son.... That is like how Jesus is always waiting for us, looking for us and runs to meet us when we are ready to come home. He doesn't condemn us, He just is joyful at our return and loves us oh so very much! I am sure that that is how Jesus sees you, wanting to come home and He is waiting to take you in His arms and celebrate with the Host of heaven at your return! If you need a friend, you may pm and I would love to chat! :) Note that it said the father RAN to meet his son, in the Jewish custom, men just don't do that, culturally it was not appropriate but God shows us that is how full of love He has for us and is overjoyed for us when we come back to Him. Jesus is calling you.....you've taken the first step. Keep going forward. ❤️ Luke 15:11 - 15:32 Now viewing scripture range from the book of Luke chapter 15:11 through chapter 15:32... Luke Chapter 15 11 And he said, A certain man had two sons: 12 And the younger of them said to [his] father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth [to me]. And he divided unto them [his] living. 13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. 14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want. 15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him. 17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, 19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants. 20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. 21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. 22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put [it] on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on [his] feet: 23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill [it]; and let us eat, and be merry: 24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry. 25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing. 26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant. 27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound. 28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him. 29 And he answering said to [his] father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: 30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf. 31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine. 32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

When one takes the MOB, they are renouncing the Name of Jesus and not trusting in Him. Also, when you take the mark, you are forfeiting your soul and the deed to your eternal security. Just like Esau who forfeited his birthright for a bowl of soup. Once he lost the blessing, Isaac could not give him the blessing even though he wanted too. Taking the MOB is saying you trust in the devil and not Jesus. Once you take the MOB, One cannot and will not worship Jesus anymore. You won't be able to repent from it either. That is where God draws the line. If one takes the MOB, one cannot help but worship the beast. That is what I think you don't seem to understand. Once one takes the MOB, there is no turning back.....

I'm not sure if I understood you correctly, are you saying we are not here for "the hour of trial"? I believe that the fire is going to purify the Church, the bride. That is why when Jesus comes for the Bride, we will be so white, so pure, and without blemish!!! :D Our faith will be put through the fire and purified. It won't be pleasant but Oh, we must think of our reward in heaven! And the people who still haven't taken the MOB will see the glory and power and beauty of Jesus and there will be a great end time harvest when many come to faith in Jesus!!! Praise The Lord!

Thanks Wing-nut....I guess I should have said in the "middle of chapter 16 which is about the wrath of God being poured out" :) .... I will try and edit that part. But, most definitely we will be here and I believe we will be bold, on fire for the Lord, not scared, and definitely hated by the rest of the world!

This is because there will still be many who are sitting on the fence. Trying to decide,that's why we have the two witnesses proclaiming truth. That's why the Saints, the elect are still here to proclaim the Gospel for the end time harvest.

One cannot repent from taking the Mark of the beast. period.

Hi George, I'm not saying that your statistics are wrong, but I'm not sure I agree with three in ten South Koreans are Christian.... I am Korean. I came to the US when I was 4 ....but I still have many relatives living there. My parents had many sibling and almost all of them are NOT Christian. I watch a lot of the culture stuff that comes out of S. Korea and it seems that they are sadly following after the post -Christian lifestyles and thinking like the US. I also was disillusioned about the Koreans who called themselves Christian because they were so materialistic and fake in their walk. I saw that in my own church when I was growing up. The Korean churches here in the US would set up elders as a prestige and they were not godly people! I don't know a whole lot of the churches in Korea but the culture and thinking there is more Westernized. There are many who live in sin now, abortions, lots of adultery. Before, if one committed adultery there, you could get arrested. Not anymore.... so I hope that I am wrong and those statistics are correct.

Hello everyone, I went along and believed in the Pre-Trib rapture because I just went along with what the preachers said. I was guilty of not studying the Word and asking the Lord for His wisdom. Well, a few years ago, I heard someone on youtube talk about the post-trib rapture. So of course I had to do some investigating and the Scriptures that she gave were Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. I also asked the Holy Spirit, to show me truth. One night I just could not sleep so I went into a room and opened the Scriptures. I was studying all night and the Lord showed me that we were going to be here. We needed to go through the tribulation and that it would purify His Church, the Bride of Christ. I believe we will be here to the end. There are many verses that exhort , "He who endures to the end". I believe a little differently than most Post-Tribbers. I believe that we will actually be here while the plagues and bowls of God's wrath are being poured out. But we will be supernaturally protected while the plagues and wrath are being poured out, we will be raptured, while the wicked are facing judgment. Everything, the rapture, the judgment of the wicked will be happening simultaneously….So bear with me, while I present my case. Matthew 13:37-43 King James Version (KJV) 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of Man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the Kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of Man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Matthew 24:31 King James Version (KJV) 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds(should say from the four corners of the earth…mandela effect), from one end of heaven to the other. Revelation 14:15-20 King James Version (KJV) 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 King James Version (KJV) 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. So we are told that we will the know the times and the seasons but not the day or the hour. We are told that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night BUT YE, BRETHREN, ARE NOT IN DARKNESS, THAT THAT DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF. We who are awake and sober, will be ready. Revelation 15 is about the Seven Plagues Revelation 16 is the Vials of God's Wrath being poured out….. Revelation 16:1-16 King James Version (KJV) Vials of God's Wrath being poured out….. 16 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image. 3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea. 4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments. 8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory. 10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain, 11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds. 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. 16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. Right in the middle of the vials of wrath being poured out of this chapter, Jesus comes like a thief!!! But we will be supernaturally protected like the Israelites in Goshen during the plagues in Egypt. Or Like Noah and his family on the ark. Revelation 6:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. The Holy Spirit is the oil and the wine. We have the Holy Spirit as believers in Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit was not taken out of the way by leaving, He merely stepped aside to let the ac come into power, to allow God's Will to be done. He is still present because God said do not hurt the oil and the wine, aka Holy Spirit. (I will provide that Matthew 25-The Parable of the 10 Virgins as a reference of the oil being the Holy Spirit) Revelation 16:15 is a good indicator that Jesus is coming to get us at the very end. We will be caught up in the twinkling of the eye while judgment is being poured out on the wicked. I have more…but this will have to do for now…. I welcome your thoughts! But I just have one thing more to say. I still love all my brothers and sisters in Christ who believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture. If Christ does come to get us before, then HALLELUJAH!!! PRAISE GOD!!! BUT IF NOT, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR THE WORST. SO THAT WE WILL BE A TESTIMONY UNTO JESUS!

I saw that site too...I guess that word was used back in the day but we modern folks just made it a "vulgar" word. :P

Thanks for answering that for me George, but then why not just say "male"? instead of using the word pisseth? or the phrase "pisseth against the wall"? it just seems....sooo....vulgar?

Can someone please help me with the statement from the KJV him that pisseth against the wall means? I just don't believe that God would be using that particular word and just doesn't flow with the KJV writing style.... There are at least 6 passages with this statement, that I don't find in other translations. 1 Samuel 25:22 So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall. (KJV) 1 Samuel 25:34 For in very deed, as the LORD God of Israel liveth, which hath kept me back from hurting thee, except thou hadst hasted and come to meet me, surely there had not been left unto Nabal by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall. (KJV) 1 Kings 14:10 Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone. (KJV) 1 Kings 16:11 And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolk, nor of his friends. (KJV) 1 Kings 21:21 Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, (KJV) 2 Kings 9:8 For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: and I will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel: (KJV)