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  1. Good stuff Episcoplus I have been sticking with the idea of the Messiah being cut off AFTER 69 weeks-in the midst of the 70th week.
  2. Hi Episcoplus You will soon see people posting a reference to Jesus reading in the synagogue and closing the scroll...for the rest of the passage regarding vengeance to be fulfilled prior to His second coming. To this I say let HIM be the one to make the "gap" and let not men impose one to fit a pet doctrine.
  3. Hi Joe Hope you don't mind me interjecting here. By strengthening "the covenant" it actually makes it new. Nowhere can you find that there is anything indicating that it is strengthened for only 7 yrs. It isn't strengthened for a week, it is saying its what He DOES for one week. Jer. 31:33- But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Heb. 10- 16- This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them And of course we know Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law, in which there is covenant. So the writer of Hebrews sees the law of sacrifices being done away with but not the law of righteousness. Instead there is a righteousness by faith instead of works, an everlasting righteousness as listed as one of the six components in Daniel. No nee for continual sacrifices, because of His atonement for iniquity. Ch 9
  4. There is also the alternate way to view these things. One that I think satisfies the the scriptural demands and eliminates the distortions that look like irreconcilable differences. I am glad this was brought up: The 42 months of the ministry of the two witnesses and the 42 months of the reign of the beast do not start at the same time. There is nowhere in scripture demanding/requiring that they do! IMO the witnesses will begin their ministry about 6 mo. before the beast comes into power. When they are slain, THEN the cataclysms of the trumpets and bowls begin-immediately. In approx. 6 mo. following that, the beast will be captured alive and destroyed. Consider this: (yet I don't like making a "time line")- Since the plagues in Rev. are SO like what was seen in Exodus, I would not be surprised if the witnesses meet their death at Passover in attempting to ascend the the Temple Mount, ostensibly to rid it of an "image" of the beast. This would bring the height of battle, think Armageddon, to somewhere around Tish b'Av, coinciding somewhat with the date the Temple was destroyed-TWICE! In the following Feast of tabernacles, New Jerusalem comes into view above.
  5. Gen. 17:4- As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. Dan. 9:27- And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:... Matt. 26:28- For this is my blood of the new (covenant) testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Mark 14:24- And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new (covenant) testament, which is shed for many.
  6. Hi Diaste The seventy weeks decreed for "your people" means simply that they must continue in that city (which must continue) for that length of time (at least). ONLY Jesus can do those other tasks BY His atonement for iniquity. "The covenant" in this passage would ONLY be understood by Daniel and all Jews to be THE convent which is the CONTEXT of what Daniel had just been praying about a few short sentences prior. This covenant is confirmed for ONE week, that one final week (in the midst of it, half way). If Jesus atoned for iniquity, it had to be WITHIN one of the weeks-the 70th! And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one final week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease
  7. Hi Michael37 In v. 6 above the word "he" is brought to attention-twice. A person can use the word "he" twice, like this, while referring to two separate individuals in the same sentence. That is what I think we are seeing here. He (God) is withholding until the time that he (the man of sin) is revealed. This provides further support for what you wrote.
  8. Nice! This is one of those areas identified that I show the same thing as you state but explain it in another way: And now ye know what withholdeth, its just so that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, things continue until the time he will be taken out of the way.. And so, then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming It is the way it is written in the KJV, and the ancient Greek that-in key places- throws us off a bit. All Paul was saying that TIME was holding things back, it was not TIME yet. So taking the method used by KJV translators to add italics to make things more readable, it now reveals the intent.
  9. Hi wingnut This has been proven wrong. Some use a "formula" to arrive at this date. It involves changing over to "prophetic years of only 30 days each-no "leap"months etc. as the Jewish practice includes. To verify this simply try using "prophetic" months to arrive at the end of the first 7 weeks as the angel laid out for Daniel. It won't work.
  10. Hi Last Daze Perfect! You nailed it, bro.
  11. Hi Dennis To me the whole nuclear grand finale is left over from the 1950's-the "terminator gospel." It doesn't work well when comparing other aspects to scripture. for example, Ezekiel 39:13 plainly says "Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD". No need for nukes.. God will get the glory, not man's puny power. Hiroshima was nuked, yet it was indeed rebuilt. However God made the Golan Heights a volcanic mountain range. When M. Pinatubo erupted it dropped a few feet of "ash" nearby and the U.S had to relocate its military base. That would collapse many roofs in Damascus. The debris is like very, very tiny shards of glass. Disturbing it will make it airbourne. Breathing it in causes permanent lung damage,it cannot be removed. Nukes aren't the only thing that cause an E.M.P. either. The cloud in space from the ejecta from the Rev. 8:8 asteroid impact (stoning) will become ionized and generate an intense magnetic field...which will put the lights out and when it discharges the charge will circle the planet and at Armageddon it will be attracted to the moist parts of the body (like charges do) burning out their eyes and tongues! (also stated in Ezekiel)
  12. Hi Joe, Man, that is an excellent point!
  13. Hi Dennis, I wouldn't say it is so obvious, but I will share my thoughts. Starting at the farthest point, -no- the Gog/Magog reference after 1,000 yrs is not the same people group from Ezekiel's prophecy. They are from the entire Earth. However the passage in Revelation about the birds feasting on the corpses is and accompanying verses support a connection to the pertinent Ezekiel chapter. I have identified key places in scripture where things are cleared up by following the methodology of certain translators, KJV for example. Because we are dealing with obsolete Greek translated into obsolete English in this instance it underscores my point. Translators used italics so it would more readable to the audience and not sound like broken English. And the wanted it to be known they were adding aids as non manuscript wording and not hiding anything. Therefore...Rev.20:8- And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, like Gog and Magog.....with italics, reveals the intended meaning. The original manuscripts have NO punctuation at all, so adding (in a minimal way) helps us get the gist. The scriptures point back to the previous time when massive armies came against God's people from the post millennial perspective. Moving on, author Grant Jeffrey found that by incorporating numbers for MANY surrounding Muslim nations, an army of 200 million could be raised. No need to import Chinese from half way around the planet. Indeed about half of the Russian/Soviet/Federation military are Muslims. There would have to be a time when the Islamic differences are cast aside and only the call for destroying Israel could do it. Of course this occurs at the battle of Armageddon (misnomer). This is at a time when God has already used HIS E.M.P. weapon, seen in Rev. 16:10- And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness...(plunged into darkness)...the grid goes down and mechanized battalions are useless. Yet Russia has more horses than any other country in the world. They will be put to use. Also, there at least 100 million AK-47's/AK-74's in circulation, many of which are in the middle eastern nations and surely there are many other rifles/shotguns with wooden stocks etc. These are what will be burned for 7 yrs. My assumption is people will grab any helmet, home made shield etc. like a Mad Max scenario as they are driven to join the fight. It may or not be "satisfactory" to you but to me it actually does keep it simple.
  14. Agreed, giving the benefit y the doubt, some may perchance struggle with kjv. However even some other version s don't show it well
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