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  1. Exactly! And we cannot conveniently leave out other context where it says this is the first RESURRECTION. ä-nä'-stä-sēs, those who were DEAD live again.
  2. I agree, but they aren't in disorder either, where we have a license to shuffle them around any we want to, either. With what you have below and above, a confusing way to sort of say the same thing as I do but you have to call a short period a thousand years for some reason. By the way no scripture says Satan is bound except the one in Rev. 20 So is this a second Great tribulation? How about those that cannot be numbered that came out of the tribulation and resisted the mark etc. So if the Great Tribulation is AFTER the 1,000 yrs., how do they get to reign for a thousand yrs.
  3. 1 Cor 2:12- What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is a metaphor for the thousand years? This verse gives you "special knowledge" perhaps. I will say it again, bible prophecies come to pass LITERALLY. Do you the passage in Rev. 20 is a PROPHECY...foretelling the future?
  4. Where do you find proof of the thousand years being a metaphor? Rev. 20:4 says people reign with Him when they rise from the dead as the verse you quote from 2Tim. is speaking of future tense, "shall reign". Consider that Rev. 20 shows those who resisted the mark of the beast are raised to life as well, so nobody is reigning before then. Again, those who are raised to life were in the Great Tribulation. I think it would be helpful if you read verse 7 after verse 3. you can see that Satan is loosed a little season and then in verse 7 he's loosed out of his of his prison... it's the same event. what you describe is called the "ongoing resurrection" which makes the teachings of scripture meaningless. THIS is the first resurrection turns into a lie!
  5. Hi Walt, You are right! For the FIRST resurrection. But we cannot ignore the passage about "the rest of the dead" after the thousand years Which is what the bible actually calls it. No multiple resurrections as needed by the pre trib position. But I don't know anyone who doesn't think that there is a scenario described where Satan is loosed after being confined and not very long after, those who die in defiance t God will be resurrected to face their final judgment. So, YES, at the end of this world there is ONE.
  6. You're welcome, check your P M
  7. Are you evading my point? Let me try one simple question that needs no long winded answer of things not asked: Do you consider the pre trib rapture/resurrection to be the same FIRST RESURRECTION to be the same as the one needed for the great multitude of Rev.7 who were in the tribulatio? AFTER the pre trib scenario. These "trib saints" will be alive and remain until the END, while some are martyred. This also requires a rapture/resurrection.
  8. Walt, If my website was still up I could show you another take regarding these things. Suffice it to say the scriptures say the Earth remains forever. There will be many fires. There will be seismic activity, to the point where the lava flows will be seen as Peter also refers to-elements melted with intense heat. If I can upload some stuff to the cloud (Drop Box?) this weekend I'll put a link up here. All prophecies we have seen fulfilled so far have been literally fulfilled. If that were not the case they would be no prophecy at all. I'll get back here shortly.
  9. I see you put out many words about things I didn't refer to or ask. Let me make plain ONE more time: Your position includes a rapture and resurrection BEFORE the tribulation Then of course there has to be a rapture and resurrection AFTER the tribulation to account for the "trib saints" who die and the ones who are alive and remain. Then there is ANOTHER resurrection at the end of the thousand years. Let's see if you can stay on topic.
  10. Ok, and what becomes of Earth?
  11. Hi Walt, What is your take on biblical prophecy? What happens at the second coming of Jesus?
  12. Yeah, some people don't get it the first time or second etc. Why not just show me where it is wrong? How many resurrections do you say? And does your count require "special" understanding, like redefining things, contradictions and colliding scriptures? C'mon Coot, I showed Jesus gathering the saints, the dead in Christ rising at virtually the same time, Jesus declaring that NO MAN KNOWS the day or hour, the bride getting her attire at the END, then they are in the air as Jesus comes....what mero do you want? Show me the Gobbels factor here. Which one of these things that I said is "a falsehood"? I showed that the number of resurrections required by the pre trib scenario doesn't match scripture. Is THAT false?
  13. Let's look at it in context: Mat 24:3-1And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matt 24:32-Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh Mat 24:33-So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Mat 24:34-Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Mat 24:35-Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away Mat 24:36-But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Your above statement is in error 1 Thes 4:14- For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. It is the dead in Christ who are brought back with Jesus. This is when they come out of the graves. If not you would need ANOTHER rapture and resurrection at the END of the tribulation because those who resisted the mark are seen in Rev. 20 and are going to reign with Him for 1,000 yrs! And there will be martyrs through that period as well. Then the there is a resurrection AFTER the thousand years. So as I have been saying-too many resurrections (and raptures too) In Rev 19 the bride is given her new attire, NOT 7 yrs earlier! We ALL get new bodies at the same time-read Heb. 11:40. A multitude of people in that chapter can be seen in the air shouting for joy as Jesus arrives on the white horse! THAT is the rapture!!!
  14. There are many more that contain "symbolism". (especially in Revelation) If you would like we can discuss them.
  15. I have heard the many arguments of the pre trib teachings. Many pre trib teachers and proponents are forced to interpret/define selectively and invariably make the scriptures collide into each other with contradictions.
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