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  1. I use sweet baby rays. The flavor is exactly the way I like it with chicken.
  2. So, instead of the official ordination papers being "in black and white" they are "in chocolate and vanilla". But, I guess that coincidence is just the way the cookie crumbles.
  3. I agree. The Judeo-Christian faith and the Bible from which is such faith, is the incorruptible living and abiding Word (1 Pet.1:23) of God Jehovah Elohim. All other faiths are the wisdom of men that is the corruptible seed that doesn't produce the Life of God in man. (1 Thes.2:13; 1 Cor.2:5) Jesus said in Jn.6:63 "The words I speak are Spirit and Life, the flesh profits nothing." The apostle Paul said to those who have believed (the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation (Rms.1:16). "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." (Rms.8:9)
  4. In Rom.13:8-10.. God is saying "Don't do anything that I wouldn't do." "Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. In the Law there are many commands, such as, "Be faithful in marriage. Do not murder. Do not steal. Do not want what belongs to others." But all of these are summed up in the command that says, "Love others as much as you love yourself." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."
  5. I've used Y-H-V-H many times in discussion. But I likely would not if I didn't understand what it meant.. for how could a person worship God by letters that don't indicate the meaning? The word "Jehovah" would suffice as well as the word "God" as far as any understanding of either word goes. The word "Father" is befitting for a more personal reference. They each have their place. I appreciate that God does not require a precise name, after all He is willing to be addressed by such a generic word as "God".
  6. Jesus said that he is gentle and humble of heart in teaching us his way that is light and easy. And James said that we can ask God for his wisdom and will not upbraid us. Yes, God speaks to us in a gentle whisper, a still small voice.
  7. I simply replied with the information that I have found out by research. I would think that anyone would be having the same security in the knowledge that they have. And yet still be aware that they don't yet know as much as they'd like to. It seems that you must think that I should have instead said something like "lets debate this topic". But that was not my intention, just look and the other posters. I didn't disagree with them. No, it's only your doctrine that I've disagreed with. As is the privilege for anyone to do. Even though you by what you stated, classify it as "ranting". Or in my case "correcting". I do not apologize for putting forth my own position regarding yours. And I do not apologize for saying no thank you to your particular doctrine. Well thank you for giving me permission to do so on my own thread. Thank you again for pointing that out. You have apparently misjudged concerning your posting on my thread. In that case, I only apologize that I didn't use a stipulation on anyone posting such as "any doctrine posted that is not in keeping with orthodox theology will be subject to disagreement." I suggest that all you need to so is start your own thread and there use your privilege to disagree with anyone who counters your doctrine.
  8. I did take the time to look that up on Bible Tools places. God is the English of Elohim. LORD is the English of Y-H-V-H. In some places god(s) is also Elohim. It's not necessarily the original language of the names of God that I'm looking for. It's the limiting English word for God that I'm somewhat frustrated about. So in the O.P. I'm expressing my desire to expand on it. And therefore requesting from Christians on this forum any input that they would have. Thanks for your comment.
  9. I know what you mean. I do the same. Thank you for your comment.
  10. I'm aware of the name "Yahweh" .. it's not correct in that it has the letter "w" in it, which the Hebrew language doesn't have. So that name isn't authorized by God who spoke first in the Hebrew language. Personally a more correct version would be yahveh. The first part "yah" is in keeping with the biblical use, but the letter "e" is a guess rather than a certainty. As for the name "Yehovah", it is derived from the letters y-h-v-h and the vowels e-o-a interwoven.. based on the later added vowel points that were independent of the original Hebrew language. "The vowel points were added around A.D. 700-1000 because biblical Hebrew was becoming a completely dead language, even among the Hebrew Masoretes who were copying it. So they developed a vowel point system to know how to pronounce it." Also, the letter j is derived from the German language that was adapted into the English language. I have on occasion used "Jehovah" but not regularly. I'm not aware of "Yahuah". I suspect that it is less authorized than the first two suggested ways. As I understand it .. it is derived from substituting a "u" for the distinct Hebrew letter "v". So Y-H-V-H is made into y-h-u-h. Unfortunately the Hebrew language doesn't use a "u" in the tetragrammaton. So, I don't doubt that Yahuah's origin comes from whatever particular group within those of "the sacred name" sect. The problem with their pronunciation is that every different group has a different pronunciation that they alone came up with. I could come up with a name for God too by using the word "yahavah" which is a combination of the biblical word "yah" that refers to one portion of the tetragramaton.. and the word "havah" which is the Hebrew word translated in English to be love. So as a bible name though not likely grammatically or linguistically correct, nor do I suggest it to be biblically proper to adopt.. but just as an illustration of what the sacred name people do.. I, by my own invention, have come up with a "hebrew word, name for God" that is connectable to the biblical phrase "God is love". I'd assume that is loosely how Yahuah and all other pronunciations of the sacred name sects occurred. ... Obviously the English folk are trying to make the Y-H-V-H into something pronounceable. I'd rather follow the example of the Jews who did not give the pronunciation of the name given in Exod.3:14 of "Y-H-V-H". The High Priest had been given the pronunciation, to only use once per year when it was the turn of each chosen High Priest to perform their duties in the Temple. But that pronunciation was lost at the destruction of the Temple and the collapse of the priesthood knowledge. The Jews state that Y-H-V-H is an ineffable name.. so any pronunciation that we Christians come up with is incorrect. And concerning the Most High God, I would not want to be incorrectly speaking His name. Neither do the Jews. They refer to Y-H-V-H as Ha Shem which means "The Name". In doing honor to His Name, as well as in reverential fear, that is as close as they dare get. I would not recommend that to anyone. But to rather do a proper research on the sacred name sects themselves. What you find out should properly and wisely put you off of it. I must disagree, the name Y-H-V-H is not a replacement of the word Elohim. But rather the Hebrew words "Elohim" and "Y-H-V-H" both describe a different aspect of God. Elohim refers to His creativity and His power, His wonder-workings. While Y-H-V-H refers to His loving-kindness to mankind, His desire to get close to His crowning achievement of creation. [Anyone can look that up based on the words and phrases I've used since I'm not sure if my putting the actual link might be removed because I haven't first sought permission to use it here]. I agree that the English word "God" leaves a lot to be discovered about the nature and character of God. But, that doesn't mean that the deeper information isn't available from many Biblically reputable sources. And yet one needs to do research as to what each name means. However one born into the Hebrew language would learn it all at an early age. Actually the word "God" is not a proper title name in that it is so generic. It's meaning would have to rely on whatever connecting phrases and words that would surround it. Would each of us be even using the English language in heaven? I hope not because it's so limited in conveying the vast knowledge and understanding of God. For all we know the language in heaven is Hebrew, so in that case, I'd rather get used to saying "HaShem". And in heaven I'll immediately know for sure, for sure the correct pronunciation of it. The sources of translations are a plethora of information that awaits those who desire to know. There are many biblically inspired teachers who teach it. But none of those that I've consulted are from the sacred name sect... what they know is not correct. Regardless if it is expected for me to stop reading here I have the same intention as at the beginning of reading this post that I continue to it's end. Using God's name in emptiness or worthlessness would be to state that God is not capable of doing things today as He did in the Bible.. such as answering prayers, etc. Another way of making God / His name empty.. is to use in vernacular the name "God" as the unbelievers do, though they don't believe that God exists. For instance, to say "thank god!" as merely an exclamation and not to actually speak thanksgiving to God for something He's actually done and giving praise in acknowledgment. However, to say that the church practices using God's name in emptiness or worthlessness is simply not true. The bible uses the word Baal where indicated that the Isaelites were not worshiping the Lord God. That pretty well clears up that. Therefore the implication that any Christian who worships the Lord, might be worshiping Baal is totally inaccurate. The translators used the word Lord and LORD to refer to God. The translators of the writers of the new testament used Lord when speaking of Jesus Christ. There is nothing to fear in using what titles the Bible uses when speaking of or to the Godhead. The implication that there is something for Christians to shun is a strawman set up in order to make way for an unauthorized substitute. In the old testament God spoke through the prophets, in these last days God speaks through His Son. So in regard to prophesying it is correct to say "thus says the Lord".. as written in the new testament concerning Jesus Christ our Lord. So your point is in error. The way to test a prophecy is by comparing it with what the Word of God says. If the prophecy doesn't line up then it need not be regarded as inspired of God for prophecy is to edify, exhort, or comfort, and speaks to the heart of the hearer, or exposes a secret of someone's heart. Whether the substitutionary word for Lord .. Yahweh, Yahveh, or Jehovah, or other, is not the way to judge the authority of a prophecy. There's nothing in scripture that states the use of the correctly pronounced name is the way to judge prophecy. According to Joel, at the outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all flesh (which occurred on the day of Pentecost Acts 2) Joel said that ".. old men would dream dreams and young men would see visions." Both are valid and therefore are not those of Jer.23:27. In the case of that Bible reference.. it speaks of those ungodly dreamers.. pagans, who prophecy falsehood and delusion (Jer.23:26).. such are they who make God's people forget His character and nature. That God is Truth and Righteous. Again, the use of that scripture cannot be applied concerning Christians who use God and Lord, and don't use "Yahweh", "Jehovah", or other. The biblical word Lord, or LORD, or the Jewish word HaShem.. or even to use Jehovah as some bibles have, is of great peace and protection for any Christian. The continuation of your strawman implication that all Christians who don't use Yahuah are, as you imply unknowingly worshiping Baal.. is ludicrous. There is no scripture gives that indication at all, the original language has been translated correctly. When it says that the people rightly and fearfully worship God, or LORD, or Lord.. the text does not indicate that it's Baal. I'd say that you were in right worship of God but now in using Yahuah, there is an uncertainty there that you have accepted as right because you believed the strawman that was presented to you. They said to you "believe what we tell is right because what you believe isn't right." That is what you are saying now.. but it's not right as I have shown. And as any reputable studious Christian of the Bible or Hebrew Bible scholar, etymologist, linguist will show. The word "halleluyah" is a transliteration made up of "hallelu" which means praise, and "yah" which means LORD. Writing it as a translation "halleluLord" is incorrect. So your rendition is not valid. The linguists wouldn't do what you did because it wouldn't be linguistically correct. Thanks but it wouldn't be wise to accept your help.
  11. Thank you for commenting. Yes we are to worship God in spirit and in truth, we love God and are dependent upon Him. And likewise of Jesus. But there is my point.. we address God by that generic word, yet we know of the personal name of our Savior. .. well, the name Jesus does mean Savior. But I hope that you understand what I mean. The word "God" in the English language doesn't mean anything but to refer to the Creator, when compared to the Hebrew word Elohim which more directly means the Creator, or the Hebrew word Y-H-V-H that is translated LORD. It's not that I am confused on how to address God .. it's that I'm in a quandary to have a better word than what we all use. I suppose that it would be comparative to a good friend of mine calling me "human" instead of my personal name. We do however have the example in the personal name that Jesus used in speaking of God, which is "Father". It seems that there is no other name to use.. we all are to address God according to his nature, who He is. Creator, Redeemer, God of peace, God of righteousness, the everlasting Father, etc.
  12. To me the word "God" is a generic replacement word as a way to address the Creator of the heavens and the earth.. the entire universe and all that it consists of. In some bibles the word "God" is sometimes substituted for the Hebrew word Y-H-V-H. Which is said to be unpronounceable. In some bibles the word LORD is used in replacement of the tetragrammaton. Research says that the Hebrew gematria of Y-H-V-H has the number value of #26.. which is also the same number value of the Hebrew word havah.. which translates to love. I do wonder if the apostle John intended to convey that when he wrote "God is love". I've researched and discovered that the word "God" has it's origins in Germany. The word "good" is by the Germans pronounced "gauht", or was it goht"..? So, if I was to say "grace" as I'd been taught, before we eat, I'd say "God is good.." But to the German I might as well be saying "gauht is goht". Anyway I'm looking for a way to address the significant God in significance. Like maybe "God- the Source of all blessings." ------- What are your thoughts?
  13. I looked up on a website what those Hebrew words mean. what-does-baruch-shem-kvod-malchuso-lolam-vaed-mean "And be a witness to the world that God’s honorable kingdom is blessed." I think that phrase would be a good way to end one's prayer request for a particular promise of blessing to be in one's life. That the answering of the prayer in that person's life would result in that person to be a witness to the world that God’s honorable kingdom is blessed. "A King’s Kingdom consists of 2 things, His lands and His people. In this case we are referring to his “honorable” kingdom. Land cannot be honorable only people can be honorable. Therefore God’s honorable kingdom means God’s people." Also, concerning the wearing of "the box" on one's head".. is explained this way. "By Putting the tefillan (the bible uses the word "phylacteries") on the forehead and between the eyes we reinforce the concept that we are witnesses." John 3:21 "We do (practice) the truth and come to the light that it may be manifest that our deeds are wrought in God."
  14. The temptations are such that are common to man.. the unsaved as well as the saved. In my mind that indicates that what Paul said is not necessarily including those who are martyred in regard to the "escape" part. That is not to say that God abandons the martyred to their fate. I believe that the words "that it will not be above what you be able to bear" is for them. And in the daily trials, the promise of escape is to all believers .. the word "escape" would to me mean "escape the snare of the devil".. but that they may be able to bear it, some bible versions use the word "endure". The idea is to endure against the trial of adversity, the accompanying verse would be "submit yourselves to God, resist the devil and he will flee from you." I think of the devil testing Jesus in the wilderness. For Jesus the way of escaping the temptations was to know and quote the scriptures. Either way, the words assure the believer that God will because of our faith in Him, provide His grace which strengthens the believer so that they won't faint or yield to the test and thereby miss the opportunity to overcome.
  15. This is good news. My concern that I had for you when I read your first post is now relieved in reading this post. Like the apostle Paul wrote there are circumstances that arise when the difficulty causes upset, times when I'm shoved out of my comfort zone and I don't feel happy about the situation, but like Paul said I don't get into despair (2 Cor.4:8-9), although I do think that those times would be the excellent occasion for the rapture to happen. It's the Christian version of the advertisement slogan "[product name], take me away!" Thank God, He is a present help in time of trouble.. He is a refuge for all of us to run to and under His wings we do trust.
  16. Thank you for sharing. Thank God for comforting those who are cast down.. to lift them up.. and deliver them from the valley of the shadow of death.
  17. Loving one's life has the connotation of selfishly endeavoring to have the comfort things of this world by using the methods of this world to get them. If a person will seek to hang on to those things by selfishness, then the person will loose them. If believers will volunteer to lose all .. like Jesus offered the rich young ruler.. then a believer will gain the higher life. As the apostle Paul stated that he counted all things that he'd gotten .. the perks of righteousness through the law.. to be "gar-bahj" in light of the astounding exceeding gain of knowing Christ. In my study on righteousness through the law I found out that "the filthy rags" are non other than what is called today "female menstrual pads". That brings to mind when Rachel was in her "monthly curse" so she stayed seated and excused herself not to get up and there be found the fertility idols. It also brings to mind the stain of the woman's clothing due to a dysfunction of the issue of blood, that sickness was by God's law a curse. But, we have been redeemed from the curse. As it says "Though our sins be as scarlet.. they shall be made whiter than snow. Not knowing about that historical part that you bring up.. I had thought that they followed Jesus because they knew Him to be a Rabbi, as was the custom in those days. Who wouldn't say "yes" when the man of God would call? Even so one of them was convinced that Jesus was THE MAN OF GOD. Thank you for providing your input.
  18. Are you comparing yourself with God who has capacity to decide regarding a situation? Don't you remember what I posted ..do not avenge but remember to leave such things with God... "vengeance is Mine, I will repay says the Lord." Does that mean we are to be like the sons of thunder who said with enthusiasm that the fire of judgement fall upon someone they deemed needed it? We are not to do that according to Jesus who said "You don't know what spirit you're of." Meaning.. their thoughts came not from God. I see that you want to live in the old testament like the sons of thunder did. But we are living in this age of grace. The same grace that we enjoy from the Father is also given unto the worst of sinners. As Jesus said "God makes the sun to shine and the rain to fall on both the good and the evil." Do you really expect them to act like loving Christians to you? That's just ridiculous. But anyway, have you read the beatitudes of Jesus lately? He states in so many words that the Christian life is not a bowl full of cherries, it's not sitting in the recliner and being waited on hand and foot. It's not sinners automatically being nice, thoughtful and kind to Christians.. but it's the favor of God when any of them are. But we are no matter the mistreatment, supposed to be loving, and kind to them. Jesus always loved the pharisees who sought to shove Him off the nearest cliff. And some of us think that they are the exception? That sinners won't be hostile towards them? What do you suppose the apostle Paul thought about it when he was a multiplied times mistreated by those of many walks of life? Did he think so much about how those bad people showed no remorse whatsoever for their crimes.. did he think about how happy they were at hurting him? Did he use any of that as an excuse not to forgive and love them? I'll answer my own questions. No he didn't make excuses, he forgave them for the sake of the anointing to continue to work in his life because he knew that if he didn't forgive then God would not forgive him. If he didn't forgive then he couldn't operate in the love of God and therefore his ministry effectiveness was down the tubes. His speaking in tongues would amount to nothing. His faith to move mountains would amount to nothing. If he was martyred it would amount to nothing. All of this Christian life is by faith and faith works by love. God has demonstrated His love in forgiving our transgressions and also those of the worst of sinners. Of which Paul called himself when he'd dedicated himself to hunting down and putting them in a prison that would result in the same that the apostle Paul experienced.. no hope of release, no hope of life. And the apostle Peter too who the next day was to be martyred except that the saints prayed for his release and an angel opened the jail cell door and the exit door out of that prison. If the apostle Paul and Sylus had been angry at those who put them in jail just because they'd been preaching the gospel.. they'd both of rotted and died, but instead they worshiped God.. can't do that without forgiving others.. the praise was heard from God and the miraculous happened. We Christians are to imitate God in loving and forgiving. That is the only way that we'll be able to accomplish our good works in this life and receive rewards from Jesus at the Bema Seat. I thank God for the right examples in the Bible of how we are supposed to be in regards of what pleases God. I never said that we're supposed to be grateful to those who persecute us. But Jesus said to pray for such people. And we're not supposed to pray that the suns of thunder fire of God comes on them and reduces them to a greasy spot on the ground. I'm not saying that at all. I took my case to court when I got hit by a semi truck and injured in such a way that I'm still physically debilitated today. I couldn't hold a job, I didn't get disability compensation. The court settlement compensation ran out in just a few months time. So there's been just one wage earner in our household for these many years. The injuries I sustained back then are taking their toll even more so now that I'm older, those injuries contributing to my general health and ability to function in top condition for my age. But.. all the while I prayed God's best concerning them. I prayed and still pray earnestly for their salvation. I did the same when I was burgled, more than once over the years. Because the Bible says, Jesus said "If you have ought against any, forgive." Now you are quoting what Jesus taught the Christian to do. Ask Him your question. Do you think that is what Paul told Christians to do? The apostle Paul defined what God's law is that we are supposed to keep. In Rom.13:8-10 "Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not covet," and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." Yes, the decision is up to Him. We are not to be like the suns of thunder to ever think that God gives us the right to avenge ourselves, or to make our list of bad people and call upon God to wipe them out. That is spoken to those under the old covenant. On the basis of that verse the widow woman during Jesus ministry went before the unjust judge and demanded that righteousness be done by him on her behalf. On the basis of that scripture Jesus ministered to all who were oppressed.. those who'd been robbed of health, and the sick. Jesus did no wrong to the Syro-Phoenician woman but rather delivered her daughter from the demon. Jesus did no wrong to the Roman soldier who asked that his servant be healed. Jesus called for mercy to prevail concerning the woman caught in adultery .. that her blood not be shed.. for who among those Pharasees were innocent to throw any stones? Jeremiah 9:23-24 "Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches, but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the Lord.” God puts first that He practices steadfast love. And because of that, justice, and righteousness. God's grace to the sinner is God's justice (fairness) and righteousness (right-doing). "He who knew no sin was made to be sin for us that we be made the righteousness of God in Him." That is to whosoever believes. Be it the worst of sinners, or the minor sinner. God doesn't really make any such distinction but I make it because you see a distinction. The writer of Hebrews 10:32-35 said "32 Don’t you remember those days right after the Light shined in your hearts? You endured a great marathon season of suffering hardships, yet you stood your ground. 33 And at times you were publicly and shamefully mis-treated, being persecuted for your faith; then at others times you stood side by side with those who preach the message of hope. 34 You sympathized with those in prison[d] and when all your belongings were confiscated you accepted that violation with joy; convinced that you possess a treasure growing in heaven that could never be taken from you. 35 So don’t lose your bold, courageous faith, for you are destined for a great reward!" Your using "Because we love our enemies" seems to be said like anyone would enjoy getting teeth pulled without novocaine. My scripture references shows what it has to do with Jesus, the law of Moses and Biblical teaching. But the way you've been going.. you'll probably find a way to ignore or call them invalid in some way. Directing anyone to God's will to love sinners does not put anyone in danger. However, you're one-sided postulations will by your own prediction put people who accept your stance on the matter in the same danger that you are in. To live in continuous hostility toward those whom God has already demonstrated His love toward them, through the voluntary sacrifice of Jesus through crucifixion. On the basis of all of the scriptures and comments I've given throughout this discussion, I say that those who do not honor the gospel message, to count all to be redeemable, are in danger of being incapable of effectively evangelizing ordinary sinners, much less the worst of sinners.
  19. I'm not qualified by ordination to encourage you, but I'm qualified by my own experiences of difficulties in life to encourage you. You have done well in holding fast unto our Savior even through all the problems, troubles and difficulties you've had. But we are not meant to endure in our own power. In your own power you'd just as soon not have been born. But because of God's love, you were born, because of Jesus crucifixion and because you heard the gospel, you got saved. So go from there and don't wish for what didn't happen (you're not having existed). What is the difference between you wishing for that, and a mother telling their child that she preferred that the child not have existed? There isn't much difference. You are not loving yourself in the same way that that mother didn't love her child. Because you initially accepted God's love for you. Stay in that love. That is loving yourself as much as He loves you. And He loves you more than you could ever love yourself. Let what the apostle John wrote be yours "We have known and believed God's love for us." 1 John.4:16. And this one "How great a love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called His children and so we are." 1 John 3:1. When we pray to God, we need not tell Him our troubles because He already knows about them. Talking about them during our prayer time will not make them go away, but instead keep things at status quo.. or even intensify our troubles. Saying them however much that you do is planting another row in the garden. They'll sprout and grow and more troubles will be happening to you. A rule of thumb. Don't talk about what you don't want to happen, but talk about what you do want to happen (within God's will and promises to us that He delights to cause them to happen) because God watches over His word to perform it. Jeremiah 1:12. So we are to instead return to Him His word that He sent to us. Isaiah 55:11. His word sent is like seeds for us to sow in our own garden of faith. His will is that we say what He already said about us. What He spoke is His will for us. So when praying, pray according to God's will. According to the apostle John in 1 John 5:13-15 that's when God hears us.. not that he doesn't hear us when we fellowship with Him, telling Him what troubling thing happened each day.. but God is waiting to hear us speak His will.. concerning His comfort to us, to encourage us, to bring His favor into our lives. And therefore we can know that He will answer us, and we shall receive from Him what we asked for or requested. As long as we stay in faith and doubt not. When your circumstances are not pleasant or anything to be cheerful about, then begin to quote scripture verses concerning gladness and joy and peace to prevail in spite of circumstances. Psalm 42:5 says "Why are you downcast, O my soul? Why the unease within me? Put your hope in God, for I shall yet praise Him for the salvation of His presence." Psalm 94:19 "When anxiety abounds within me, Your comforts delight my soul." Jeremiah 15:16 "When your words came, I ate them (that is comparing eating natural food that satisfies the body with speaking God's word and one's heart being satisfied by it) .. "..and they (God's words) were (are) my joy and my heart's delight, for I bear your name, LORD God Almighty." ... When you get up each morning quote the scripture "This is the day that the Lord has made, I will rejoice and be glad in Him." Psalm 118:24. It doesn't matter if you don't feel joyful at the time. When you speak these often, your feelings will eventually comply. Remember that before you confessed Jesus unto salvation you were a sinner, and so you became born again. Before Abraham was a father he spoke what God said about him, that he was the father of many nations. And so he became one. When you speak your list of troubles, they act as magnates to cause more troubles and problems in your life to happen. So instead say what the Psalmist said in Psalm 5:11-12. "Let all who take refuge in You rejoice; let them ever shout for joy. May You shelter them, that those who love Your name may rejoice in You. For surely You, O LORD, bless the righteous; You surround them with the shield of your favor." Being righteous is who you are in Christ Jesus. So acknowledge boldly what Jesus has made you. Honor Him in accepting His work done for you. As 2 Cor.5:21 said "For He who knew no sin was made to be sin for us, that we become the righteousness of God in Him." And Eph.4:24 said "Put off the old self and put on the new self that is created after God in righteousness and holiness." ... Here are some other scriptures to rehearse.. Psalm 91:1 "I dwell in the secret place of the Most High God and abide under the shadow of the Almighty whose power no foe can withstand." (amplified version of the Bible) Psalm 8:1 "From the lips of children and infants You have ordained praise on account of Your adversaries, to silence the enemy and avenger." When you are praising God .. it's like the devil gets a duct tape slapped over his mouth. Isaiah 54:17 "No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the LORD’s servants, and their vindication is from Me,” declares the LORD." Psalm 23:6 "Mercy and goodness shall follow me all the days of my life, and when my life is ended I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever." And lastly, concerning those who've spoken unkindly to you.. we are to do God's will and forgive. This is not an area of consulting one's feelings to see if forgiveness is possible. This is an area of the loved child of God telling those feelings to humble themselves to God's will. Jesus taught that when we pray asking God for anything.. we are to forgive those who've persecuted or offended us. In Mrk.11:25 Jesus said "Forgive if you have ought against any." Eph.4:32 said "Forgive as God in Christ has forgiven you." And Eph.5:1 says "Imitate your heavenly Father as children imitate their parents. Again, don't let feelings keep you from saying the words. "I forgive that person. In the name of Jesus I forgive." Or words along those lines. Then you could quote "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name, Your kingdom come. Your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation (troubles, trials, adversities).. but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom, the power, the glory for ever and ever. Amen." The phrase, "our daily bread" is referring to daily Bible devotional reading.. which is our study time with the Lord, as we take His yoke upon us and learn from Him. I do hope that these will give you encouragement concerning your life. I'm praying for you.
  20. A person sharing their own personal experiences concerning the matter goes a long way in relating with others who've also experienced it.. either directly or indirectly.. it's far better than using the experiences of others as any example. I suggest that next time... you start with your personal experiences. And if you use the examples elsewhere that you did here.. use a warning alert first so the person will be able to prepare him or herself and decide if they want to read such potentially disturbing examples. Thank you for your consideration.
  21. That is a narrow view of why people commit suicide. Speaking only of that reason is disrespectful. I'm assuming that you are distant from anyone you know or care about that has actually done it. The portion I've snipped out was expressed in my opinion a distant, and clinical manner. For anyone of sensitivity it would frankly be disturbing and difficult to read.. I had to skip through much of it. Please be mindful that you're posting to someone who's family member was in such deep despair that he went through with such a violent act against himself. More was snipped. When those of the old testament ask that God remove them from their mortal coil, they aren't metaphorically holding a blade to their necks that sort of image is too comparative to what an enemy would do; which is violent and accompanied with fear. What they speak of is something far different than that. They are speaking of God giving them "the kiss of death".. which means that God "takes away" their breath. Which means that that they just simply stop breathing.
  22. Paul was teaching the believers what to do concerning unbelievers. 19 "Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but leave room for God’s wrath. For it is written: “Vengeance is Mine; I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 On the contrary, “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink. For in so doing, you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." That is along the lines of what Jesus said in Mat.5:43-44 (posted below). It still remains that Paul and Jesus are saying the same thing.. whether the other person be "enemy" or "combatant". Jesus said in Mat.5:43-44 "You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute or mistreat you." Those verses have to do with war.. God was telling the Jews to fight in battle against an enemy in warfare. Which is entirely different than your list that you argue we are not required to extend God's love to.. telling them that God loves them and offers redemption and salvation to them. And so Jesus said in Mat.7 concerning the lawless man, "Depart from Me, I never knew you." Why? Because of all the things he boasted that he did in the name of Jesus, he did not say that he was redeemed by the name of Jesus. But John said in 1:12 "But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God." And so for them it is said in 2 Tm.2:19 "Nevertheless, God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord must turn away from iniquity.” John also said in Jn.6:37, "to anyone who comes to Him in repentance.. He will in no wise cast out." How is "the list" going to know that there is a place for repentance unless a Christian operating the ministry of reconciliation tells them? that God is not holding any sin against them. (it doesn't add there "except for rapists, murderers and villains") Why are they told? Because it says in 1 Tm.2:4 that "it's God's will that all be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." (it doesn't add there "except for rapists, murderers and villains") We are not to make a list of certain sinners and declare them to be unredeemable. They by their will of choice have to be permanently hostile to redemption when they hear it for those verses to apply. We are not supposed to put a certain list of sinners in that category. We are by the scriptures directed as ambassadors of Christ and the ministry of reconciliation to offer redemption to all. Because God so loved the world, all, that He demonstrated His love to all sinners in giving His beloved Son for all, that all may be saved. (Jn.3:16; 2 Cor.5:18; Rm.5:8) They have to reject.. we are not to single out a list and say that God automatically rejects those on that list and refuses for His grace to abound toward them. You are cherry picking in order to make a case that God does that. Yet the scriptures speak of God's mercy and grace toward all. They.. according to you, are those on your list. But God doesn't make such a list. Whenever the wrath of God came upon sinners in the old testament, that was back then, before Jesus, when none could be saved, none could get born again. The gentiles could only have a measure of inclusion into the covenant of God through the Jews. However, it's not the same for sinners during this age of God's grace. And yet to happen in future, during the Tribulation, the wrath of God will be upon the unrepentant sinner (even those who are not on your list). We Christians during this age of grace should not be so quick to consign the wrath of God upon sinners before they've heard the gospel and repented. David was a Jew wasn't he? Are you? We are Christians - gentiles living under a different and better covenant aren't we? David didn't use your list did he? David didn't live during this God ordained and appointed age of grace, did he? God does not abhor nor hate anyone. God loves the world. In the old testament times the hearts of sinners were hard, yet there were a few gentiles mentioned in the Bible who got on the family list and line of David, and Jesus. So, God didn't abhor and hate all gentiles in the old testament. The word "hate" used concerning sinners is the same word used when it says that God hated Esau but loved Jacob. It's the same word used when it says that Jacob loved Rachel but hated Leah. The word "hate" in those cases is not referring to hostility, but to love in a greater and lesser degree. I don't say so, the Bible says it. The Word of reconciliation to all sinners be the judge. If a Christian is not thinking in line with the ministry of reconciliation unto all, then that Christian isn't following God's or Jesus' example.
  23. In God creating in the beginning, there was discrimination against darkness, and against dysfunction. Historical wealth distribution occurred mostly by one army going to war against another army. Wars caused geographical positioning, sickness, suffering. Why have all these things been happening since the garden of Eden? Because that's when sin came into the world. According to the apostle Paul, this world has satan as it's god. Jesus said of him that "he comes to steal, kill and destroy." So, if you're looking to pin the tail on the donkey, the devil is your target.
  24. You see what they did as a civic duty. I get that. I'm saying otherwise. You don't get that. Concerning the purpose of God's plan of salvation, to provide redemption for every sinner.. God makes no difference in sinners by measure of sin. I see though that you make a difference. But you haven't yet given a scripture to support your opinion. This is not an opinion but a record of events that occurred in the old testament. The situation where God said he'd kill (wipe out, consume, destroy.. whatever thesaurus synonym would be appropriate) all the sinners who made a golden calf and worshiped it while dancing in merriment. But then He did the complete opposite in letting them live. Why? Because God is big on love. God is big on grace. God is big on goodness. God is big on mercy. God told us to love God and love our neighbor as ourselves. God so loved the world and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, we are to plead in Christ's stead to the sinners, no matter what measure of sin they've done.. that God is not counting against them their trespasses / sin. Because where sin abounds (I'd say that's talking about the witches, murderers, burglars, rapists and all other villains).. God's grace does much more abound. The pharisees taught the law that would say "death to all witches, murderers, burglars, rapists and all other villains".. but Jesus taught mercy. Jesus said to them ".. he that is without sin cast the first stone." They in the righteousness according to keeping the law realized that they were not without sin, "for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." All sinners are in the same boat, there is no first class, second, third, ...... rock bottom unredeemable class. The apostle John wrote ".. to anyone who comes unto Him, He will in nowise cast out." Praise the Lord for God is good and His mercy endures forever.
  25. With what you've said here it puts me in a position to defend myself.. perhaps somewhere in the O.P my words or manner of expression was unclear enough that you misunderstood what I was saying. Or perhaps I misunderstand you, but if it's the former.. The O.P. is not "a teaching".. there is no intention of it being a teaching.. it never entered my mind for it to be one. I presented it merely to examine what the collected verses are saying when put together. With the addition of a secular example (unfortunately it's an extreme one). But, if I understand what you're saying, there is nothing in the verses or the secular example(s) that is "putting on people the fear of death". What is "the fear of death"..? Does it mean to be afraid of death? Or, does it mean to seek the option of suicide..? The latter is a great concern for me. Frankly it surprised me when I read that godly people in the old testament expressed death as a possible option. My thoughts are that I will not even allow for that option in my own life. Why give the devil an opportunity to commence to talking me into considering it as an option for the situation? By contrast we have the apostle Paul who'd experienced a lot of difficult situations yet he called it all "light and momentary". I just can't see him requesting God to end the pain of life by compassionately snuffing out his life prematurely. I don't see that Paul was afraid of death. Frankly for my part when anyone under pressure even expresses something like "I'll just shoot myself then, this situation is unchangeable so I just don't want to live anymore." And due to the fact I mentioned that my relative committed suicide.. I am in a continuing process to work out my own anxieties that anyone else would even say such things, or even as the verse in Revelation says.. that they pursue to die with a passionate gusto. I marvel in surprise at that, as well as it troubling my mind. So you see, if I'm understanding your words, I want to assure you that I am as far away as anyone can be to even hint at putting on people the option of death. Heb.2: 14-15 "Now since the children have flesh and blood, He too shared in their humanity, so that by His death He might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is, the devil, and free those who all their lives were held in bondage by their fear of death." ------- Rom.8: 2-3 "For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man, as an offering for sin. He thus condemned sin in the flesh." Rom.8:1 "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." Gal.5:1 "It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not be encumbered once more by a yoke of bondage." Rom.8:15 "For you did not receive a spirit of bondage that returns you to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship, by whom we cry, "Abba! Father!" 2 Cor.3:17 "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Tm.1:7 "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind."
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