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  1. Actually, Who me, I checked a little bit into the churches in the area - a very, very large area, I might add...but we only had three weeks from the time my husband was hired for the job we moved for, and the time we landed - a couple of states away from where we were living - to where we are now, lol. So things were on a pretty tight timeline, and there wasn't a whole lot of time to do everything that needed to be done~ I have to say, though- we loved the church we were at in the place we lived before, and we're lucky enough that they put their sermons on youtube so we can watch them- and I honestly feel that it's almost the same as when we were there- we didn't really have a 'social' type situation with the people at the church we were at, in all honesty we were there for the sermons, lol- now, had we been in our 20s or 30s, which we aren't, with the whole family structure/kids (ours are grown), then a 'home church' would probably hold a whole different meaning for us- but like I said, until we find somewhere else, I'm thankful for the videos online that we have. God bless the advent of the internet, lol~
  2. Everyone in here has already shown their thoughts and ideas on this, so I won't even go there, lol- truth be told, there are so many different ways things can be construed, depending on who is using what to decipher the various ways this scenario could play out- each giving compelling evidence for things to happen a certain way, at a certain time-and for the most part, each determining that the way they have explained it is 'the way' it will happen, and each person is completely sincere, and, obviously, well-studied with their findings. But everyone can't be right, lol. So, I guess the question I would ask would be...what, exactly, is important here, and why is it important? We all agree that Jesus is going to come back to earth, and the 'end will come'. The antichrist/Satan will be bound and cast into hell, and the rest of it that everyone seems to agree on. The 'question' seems to be 'when' will all of these things take place, what is the timeline, etc.- I'm just as curious as everyone else, I would love to know just when things are supposed to happen, what will happen first, second, etc.- but I have to admit, reading about bible prophecy like this for many, many years, one thing I've discovered is that...it can cause a great deal of confusion. Is it this? Is it that? But there is 'this' verse for 'that' scenario, yet there is 'that' verse for 'this' scenario- and some will say, 'Well, yes, but you have to take that verse in conjunction with this, that, or the other because this is the way it was meant to be understood', or 'the bible does not contradict itself', which I believe, as well- and on it goes. It's disheartening, especially when everyone truly does want to understand what's going to happen, exactly, and when to expect it. Me too- So where does that leave things? I know some of you may think I'm somewhat of a simpleton, lol- and I come at things in a ....well, a simplistic way, and in that sense you would probably be right- but that's because at the end of the day, the one thing I know? Is....I know that I don't know, lol. I was raised to believe in a pre-trib rapture, never questioned it until I was in my 20s, probably- I won't go into detail except to say that I felt it would be more along the lines of somewhere mid-trib, pre-wrath, and that's pretty much where I sit today- I don't trust my own...knowledge, or even insight, to attempt a shot at trying to figure out where everything sits between the bowls and the trumpets, etc., insofar as when Jesus will come back- at this point in my life, I find it interesting to sort of watch what unfolds in the world, the way things are changing, what's changing, who's doing what, what the ramifications of things are, etc.- and see how it could possibly relate to end-time prophecy- The one thing that I can say about it all, and be completely, 100% sure about, is this: If Jesus comes back pre-trib, that would be awesome- none of that other, nasty business to have to worry about or go through- no 'mark', no 'antichrist', you all get what I mean- but if it's mid-trib that it happens, that is going to unhinge a lot of people who don't believe we are going to have to go through any of that- and my own opinion on that is....forewarned is forearmed- so in the end, what would be the most important thing? Being ready...having a close walk with the Lord, being dug down into the Word, instead of getting caught up in minute details about it all-that way, we're ready for whatever way it goes down. Of course, there are those men and women who were called to do exactly what those in here are doing, which is to study these things and to teach- in which case, teach on, my friends-lol. If the Lord has called you to it, well...you have to answer and say, "Here am I, Lord!"~ Myself, I'm an observer of a different type, I think- we each have the way the Lord wants us to approach things. What's important, is that we are all part of the same Body, and called to do the things that we do, some are Marys', some are Marthas', others are Peters', Pauls', Johns, but it all pulls together and is cohesive- and there we have it, lol. Just my two-cents. As usual, lol.
  3. 1 Cor. 7: 17-24 17 Nevertheless, each person should live as a believer in whatever situation the Lord has assigned to them, just as God has called them. This is the rule I lay down in all the churches. 18 Was a man already circumcised when he was called? He should not become uncircumcised. Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts. 20 Each person should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. 21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them. OP, I'm not saying 'God called you to this situation', but He most certainly knew your situation when you came to Him, and now? He is there to lead you where He wants you to go, and to do what He wants you to do-He knows your heart and its intentions, and whether or not you are truly seeking His will. My own opinion about it is to turn to God's Word, pray about it and open your heart completely to the Lord about the entire situation, ask Him to lead you in the direction He wants you to go in (or if this is hypothetical, to lead 'whoever', lol), and you can trust Him to do it. He's there to help you now, and He will- it sounds simplistic to say it, but we can't go wrong when we put every bit of trust we have in the Lord, and trust & expect Him to open doors/shut doors/etc., and lead us in the direction He wants us to go. Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek his will in all you do, and he will show you which path to take.
  4. Not a thing, actually- but we just moved recently to a huge city and don't have a home church yet, so there's that...in the meantime, thank goodness for youtube and the ability to watch church services from our previous church.
  5. Thank you for the replies, I agree with what everyone has said- I know there have been times when I've felt down, for whatever reason, and then given the church I used to attend when I was young (the 'first paragraph' type up there that I posted about, lol), I would always feel such guilt and wonder what it was that I was doing wrong, etc.- the OT passage about Jesus being a 'man of sorrows, well acquainted with grief' really does touch my heart, because it tells me that there were probably a lot of times when life, the reality and enormity of it, probably got to Him as well- and I'm sure His faith was just fine, lol- it makes me realize that we don't always have to be 'On and Up' in this walk, that the hard times of it, and there are so many of those, come with their own deep-down peace, and an altogether different kind of 'joy'.
  6. When you have to come up with a title to get the meaning of the forum across in as few words as possible, it's not an easy thing sometimes, lol! I have a question for everyone: living the Christian life, what are your thoughts on it and what, emotionally, do you think it should be? On the one hand, we have the ministers we all see on TV, or hear about who believe that the Christian life should be one of constant joy and uplifting moments, where you can 'loose the manna from heaven!', and live a successful, happy, financially somewhat lucrative life. The ministers who feel that there is some sort of 'secret formula' where if you do certain things (faith, tithing, etc.), God has no choice but to bless you with *insert something from the 'good life' here*, because there are...physical laws or whatever that are put into place when a person does 'A', and 'B' has to follow it, no matter what. If you are not living an 'overcomer's' life, if your life isn't being blessed with overall good health and semi-to-abundant wealth, these ministers say your faith isn't strong enough, or whatever- I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about, here. On the other hand...we have Christians who believe that life on this earth wasn't meant to be 'happy' in the sense that I've just described in the paragraph above- not that you have to be utterly miserable, but that 'wealth, abundant living (I mean in the physical comfort sense), good health, blessings all around' are not the norm. I think of what...Paul (?) said (and I'm paraphrasing...loosely), that if Christians had only this life in which to be happy then we are the most miserable of creatures- stating, in essence, that this physical life is not the 'be all and end all' that we should be aspiring to, but that we should work in this life toward the life to come after this. I also think of what the OT said about Jesus, (who I believe some Jews believe that Jesus was the 'Suffering Christ' as opposed to the victorious one to come in the future, two separate ones, I think they believe- could be wrong) "He was a man of sorrows, well acquainted with grief". When you read of Jesus' life in the NT, and prophecies about Him in the OT, when you realize that He is the only Son of God, come in the flesh as a final sin sacrifice once and for all, for mankind....and then you look at the 'Christian life' in my first paragraph here, big difference. Bigggg difference. So, what does everyone think? Should the Christian life be one of joy, happiness, overcoming, etc.- or is it the second paragraph I posted? A combination of both? I'm curious to know everyone's take on this In addition, here....when I said 'work in this life toward the life to come after this', I did not mean that we have to 'work' to get to heaven, or anything of that nature- by 'work' I mean that we have to...concentrate, devote the majority of our energies towards what is to come after this life, and not devote so terribly much to 'riches, etc.' in this life- I add this in here because I just know someone is going to point it out and say, "Hey! we're already saved! We don't have to 'work' for our salvation, etc. etc", and I just thought I would beat them to the punch, lol~
  7. Rev. 9, has the sixth angel with the trumpet being told by 'a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God' to let loose the four (fallen) angels held at the Euphrates river, so that they go out and destroy 1/3 of mankind. This isn't the verse being talked about in this forum, but I'm using it as an example of something holding evil back, letting it loose, and who it is with the authority to loosen. It would seem that a mighty strength would be the Restrainer...it doesn't seem it would be Satan. Of course I'm not 100% sure it isn't, but it just doesn't seem that it would be.
  8. If we were all sure who was who and what is what, none of us would be posting and comparing much of anything on forums such as these, lol. I'm always open to different interpretation other than any I may have, along with proof for it, because I realize I could always be wrong, and I don't claim anything I say to be written in stone. All I can do is what everyone else does and give an opinion and why I believe what I believe. In this particular forum, my opinion is when Ezekiel 38 and 39 happen, I guess all of us will know exactly who is doing what and where it's happening!
  9. Just out of curiosity, if Rosh is not Russia why does it call this person the 'prince of' if it means 'head, or chief'? It named several other places in that sentence, but you say the word 'rosh' is not a place, but a title...? The bible speaks about the land to the 'uttermost north of Israel' as the one to attack them, bringing with them several other nations as well, Turkey, Libya, etc. What people/country is it who are at the 'uttermost north' of Israel? Legitimate question I'm asking here, since Russia is to the uttermost north? I'll toss this in as an 'edit'- I just read some things regarding 'rosh' being used in the bible some 800-odd times, and always meaning 'head or chief' as opposed to an actual place or people- I'm always open to the idea that I could be wrong, and will gladly admit it when I am, lol- however, I'm curious as to just who it is that is to the 'utmost north'...as for God putting a hook in the jaw, and I think at one point it mentions something about dragging Gog where he doesn't want to go (or something to that effect...), it seems odd that the antichrist wouldn't want to go, unless he knows his destruction awaits him in ...Jerusalem, or something? I'm totally speculating here- I get the impression you've studied this pretty closely, and I'm curious what you think about this-
  10. Ezek.38-8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. Yes, I read it. Which war, Shiloh? How many? Here is what I read when I read the entire verse: that the people were gathered from many nations back to their own land, which had long been desolate. Brought out of many nations, now living in safety. Well, safety is a somewhat relative term, I think. The land had 'long been desolate', although there were people here and there who lived there, so 'desolate' is a somewhat relative term as well, wouldn't you say? The people were brought out from 'many nations', that's certainly true. They aren't 'walled in' like they were back in ancient times- your issue seems to be that Russia can't possibly consider invading them, that it makes no sense to you, and would do more harm than good. Maybe so, but according to scripture, that is exactly what they do. Why, is anyone's guess. But scripture still says that is what will happen, and that God is going to 'put the hook in their jaw' and cause it to be so. I don't understand the 'why', but ....again....it's what scripture says. So, whether I believe it or not is a somewhat moot point, because my opinion certainly isn't going to change the reality of the situation. It comes down to a matter of...sitting back and waiting to see how it all unfolds, according to prophecy. We can study, we can surmise, but until it happens the way God planned for it to happen, not one of us knows 100% the way this will unfold. Myself included. And that is the end of my opinion on this, because I refuse to get caught up in an argument that isn't important as it is. The reason I say it isn't important, is because regardless of what anyone says 'yea or nay' about it, it will unfold the way God has said it will, and we will all watch as it does. That would just seem to be how it is.
  11. Ezekiel 38 and 39 says what it says. If it doesn't fit in with what you think it should fit in with, I don't know what to tell you.
  12. I don't believe anyone 'wants' to do anything- there are always ulterior motives. What about God putting the Egyptian Pharaoh on his throne just to display His power against him? (Romans 9:17) But here is why I believe they will invade, whether or not we understand why: Ezekiel 38-39 The Lord’s Great Victory Over the Nations 38 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of[a] Meshek and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of[b] Meshek and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush[c] and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you. 7 “‘Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land. 10 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.[d]” 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages[e] will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’ 14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes. 17 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You are the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel. At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’ 39 “Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of[f] Meshek and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5 You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. 6 I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the Lord. 7 “‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the Lord am the Holy One in Israel. 8 It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign Lord. This is the day I have spoken of. 9 “‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. 10 They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign Lord. 11 “‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east of the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.[g] 12 “‘For seven months the Israelites will be burying them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land will bury them, and the day I display my glory will be a memorable day for them, declares the Sovereign Lord. 14 People will be continually employed in cleansing the land. They will spread out across the land and, along with others, they will bury any bodies that are lying on the ground. “‘After the seven months they will carry out a more detailed search. 15 As they go through the land, anyone who sees a human bone will leave a marker beside it until the gravediggers bury it in the Valley of Hamon Gog, 16 near a town called Hamonah.[h] And so they will cleanse the land.’ 17 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: ‘Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls—all of them fattened animals from Bashan. 19 At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. 20 At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign Lord. 21 “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay on them. 22 From that day forward the people of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God. 23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them. 25 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob[i] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.” The Word of God says it, End of Story.
  13. Many, many times, prophecy doesn't 'make sense' until after it has happened, and then there is the 'aha!' moment, the old 'hindsight is 20/20' realization. Prophecy regarding this invasion speaks of other countries together with Russia doing this...God says He will put a hook in Gog's jaw, etc. So it would seem there is a lot more to the whole future scenario than natural minerals, etc. Seems much more along the lines of political alliances and nefarious agendas that aren't completely clear yet, although maybe they are and we just need to look closer. I'm always comparing my mindset to that scene in the Wizard of Oz where they are standing in the room watching the 'great and powerful Oz' on the screen, Toto pulls the curtain back and the 'real wizard' makes the screen wizard say, 'Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!'. I'm always looking for the 'man behind the curtain' lol.
  14. I want to say my dad had a set of Funk & Wagnalls...if it's the encyclopedias I'm thinking of, they had such an ugly, brown fabric-looking cover, but I was fascinated and looked at them all of the time, lol- this is back in the day when we all still actually read literal books, lol-
  15. I think 'running to and fro', etc. has to do with technology/work/travel becoming so worldwide and international, both in person and online. We live in a very busy, interconnected world, vastly different than anything in the past. Just my two cents lol.
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