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  1. adhidw

    Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    Un believing world will happen if there is no single person who is belong to Him/ the chosen which is still in his/her process for salvation, or likened : all of His have already entered in Canaan . So the tribulation days are the days of temptation , in those days there still many His chosen who still alive and still in their process of salvation. His actually wrath shall arrive when these scriptures have already fulfilled. Rev11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them Rev20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison ( try to know : what is the reason The devils are loosed ?, doesn’t it lead us to guess that in that time there surely be no single person which is born of God and not yet enter to his/her salvation ?). Rev20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever How can there be people those such sand of the sea that in that time began with undeceived then instantly become deceived ?, why god does not take any action to prevent them if all of them actually His ?. Try compared to the people out side the ark in Noah age ?, aren’t those afflicted the same kind of people ----> born of flesh ?, So the actual wrath began from this point.
  2. Oh , I apologize if you feel being offended with my comment above, as before i made a comment on you, i responded the op too , just for discussing there was no any other agenda , feel free to forget my comment , i apologize for not comfort .
  3. before this perishable world was formed: Eph1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love. The realm existed in that time = eternal realm = realm where God was,is. Isa43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him Isa43:21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise. Then to realize His plan , there are many steps , one of them " men can only bring Glory to Him , if men come to understand that the salvation is only by God's Grace , for this sake then it is a inevitability that men surely need to be redeemed by His Grace only , that's why He was slain already before the creation of the world.
  4. Yes, In order to understand that the salvation is by God's Grace alone , in order to establish that premise He should introduce that actually He was the lamb that was slain before the creation of the world Rev5:6. Surely He had a great plan before the creation of the world about us.
  5. He is the almighty, He is the alpha and the omega , we come to the existence surely was started by His great plan , knowing His plan is very important.
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    Rewards and Punishment

    The great refer to Devils/Satan (vessels of wrath) , the small refer to the losers they prior were His , their names also were written in the book of life before the creation of the world but no longer there when they failed in their journey in this earth like such the deads in the desert in Mosses age their names eventually being blotted . Rev22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Many positions are there in NHNE , it must be occupied by a suitable person according to what kinds of Deeds that God gave during their life so there is nothing to do with their own works.
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    Rewards and Punishment

    The saveds are vary from the highest capability until the lowest such that suffer mentally illness , the reward for them are equal each one likened such receive a penny. The deed of them that worthy in the eyes of God surely God Him self who did it. Isa26:12 LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us Phl2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure Rom7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not Isa64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away And wrath for the looser surely lof.
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    scriptural support for free will belief

    Agreed. All of us (our spirits that reside within Us ) / His people/ the chosen start from zero state means : have no knowledge have no ability , we surely will be zero state forever if we are not sent to sojourn to this earth for our growth ( there is no any role that we can play in this state ), by sojourning here God is doing something divine within us that day by day surely grow the progress (purification process likened as 40 years in the desert ) that finally if we won we are said as saved, if the purification time is over and we are still not yet understand so we are said as lost ( likened the dead of Israelis in the desert / then our name in the book of life eventually surely be blotted Rev3:5 ), in these process there is no contribution from our part, those are absolutely God works Isa26:12 . We can imagine the steps of the process : The first day God tilted us to the left, surely that time we countered Him to the right ( negative will in spiritually dimension Rom3:10-12 ) , God only said that time “don’t harden your heart “. The second day God rotated us to the left , surely that time we rotated to the opposite ( negative will ), God only said “don’t stiffen your neck “. And all the days after are treated as similar as that , until the purification time is over , the winner surely well understood Mat13:23 , I wrote there : (one vessel unto honour = e.g. Physically Jacob ; another unto dishonor = born of flesh = e.g. Physically Esau ) (the vessels of wrath = devil resides inside the born of flesh John8:44 ; tares Mat 13: 38-39 ) (the vessels of mercy = the chosen : Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, ……., Noah, ………, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,…….Us, last name in the book of life = The children of kingdom Mat 13:38 = us = spiritually beings which were put in to our body (when we were born Zec12:1 , Jer1:5) /our spirit for sojourning = came from above John17:14 ). , where these born of flesh people one day are possible to be the devil’s camp e.g. John8:44 , also see Luk11:24-26 , Mat13:38-39 When the devils are still in the bottom of pit , so not all the born of flesh people are the devil possessed , but in the last day surely the born of flesh people will be possessed by the devil Rev 20:7-8. Rev20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea How can there be the deceived such the sand of the sea ? if they are not all the born of flesh people ?. In this event , we are informed if there are two kinds of humans living in this earth; born of God/ the chosen and born of flesh that surely all of them will be deceived I clarified already the different between the vessels of wrath , and the vessel of dishonor.
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    scriptural support for free will belief

    So , there is no any role of humans “will” in humans salvation , right?. By then the premise “ salvation is by God’s Grace alone “ surely works properly . This is absolutely right. Because this is actually the purpose of creation. Isa43:7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him Isa43:21 This people have I formed for myself; they shall shew forth my praise Then God starts to send gradually His people/ names written in His book of life before the creation of the world/the chosen to sojourn to this earth. Some questions we need to answer: What was the realm when this earth not yet formed ?. How difficult for God created them all at once ?, if not then there surely were some plans about His people to not being created at once, -------> growths. Let’s see: Rom8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope If so then the salvation is a achievement for the saved , right?, then the verses below surely will not work properly ?. Isa64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away Phl2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure So men will never be able to bring glory to God, because actually the glory is deserve for men also that still have” will “ where in their sight that by their own will they still can make some things divine ( God does not make anything “divine” )within them, ----> in their sights they still can seek God, they still can obey God , right? , why then they were driven out from Eden , didn’t they surely still can obey to not ate the fruits of the tree of life intentionally ?. If the purpose actually is : “ bring Glory to God “ , so there should work the premise “ salvation is by God’s Grace alone “ This premise can stand firmly if there is the chosen where these very people is totally different with the common people / born of flesh John1:12-13 / dust Gen3:14 /not written in the book of life before the creation of the world / equated as animals Ecc3:19 / likened as the swine in Mark5:12 , where these born of flesh people one day are possible to be the devil’s camp e.g. John8:44 , also see Luk11:24-26 , Mat13:38-39 . If so then, how can there be devil who transform to be the angel of light ?, how can there be antichrist ?, How can the devil shall be judged Rev20:12 what are the evidences for suing them ?, how can we judge the devil/angel 1cor6:3 , how can this earth will end ?. John8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it Luk11:24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. 11:25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 11:26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first Mat13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels 2Pet2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2:2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; Which is said in Rom9:22 such vessels of wrath.
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    scriptural support for free will belief

    If the question: Does human have free will ?. The answer surely: Yes, he or she does. But this free will is framed in literal dimension, works for everything during their life in this earth then after that surely over / will never does anything for eternity/ will never does any contribution for their salvation unless the salvation shall never be the God grace alone . Isa64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Our righteousnesses are surely rooted to our will , right?, if those all just are like filthy rags , then will its make any contribution?. Isa26:12 LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us So surely God Himself who makes something divine within us , so surely -------> the salvation is by God Grace alone . Phl2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure We should know first that the realm where we live is a temporary realm , so not fit for spirit to inhabit/man’s spirit is not a natural product of this earth , our spirits reside within our bodies surely are His chosen ( chosen before the creation of the world ) , which were sent to sojourn/wander to this perishable world for our growths by then we can bring Glory to God ( the purpose of creation ) because there is no growth in eternal realm. Zec12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. ( God put spiritually being within Israelis for OT, and spiritually Israelis for NT , never put His in to born of flesh people ). 1Pet1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Rom9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (one vessel unto honour = e.g. Physically Jacob ; another unto dishonor = e.g. Physically Esau ) 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: (the vessels of wrath = devil resides inside the born of flesh John8:44 ; tares Mat 13: 38-39 ) 9:23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory (the vessels of mercy = the chosen : Adam, Eve, Abel, Seth, ……., Noah, ………, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,…….Us, last name in the book of life = The children of kingdom Mat 13:38 = us = spiritually beings which were put in to our body (when we were born Zec12:1 , Jer1:5) /our spirit for sojourning = came from above John17:14 ). We can imagine : If spiritually being is not a naturally product of the earth such there is no spirit within animal , then it is logic that every spirit which inhabit here for awhile surely God Himself who put them to reside within His Chosen and all which were driven out from heaven (devils) . How can these spiritually beings go back to heaven from this earth ? by their own efforts/will ? can men make their own vehicle bringing them back to heaven ? impossible. This is the basic understanding of “Salvation is by God Grace alone “ = shall God Himself who take them back ( depend on His Charity alone ). Who shall He take back to heaven if He did not put them before ?, this is the basic understanding of the Chosen . So humans have no free will in spiritually dimension , humans only have negative will in spiritually dimension ( Rom3:10-12).
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    Yes sir , thank a lot for your help.
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    thank you, i'll try
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