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  1. Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. The law can save no one. We are justified by faith in Christ Jesus, by believing the gospel of Grace. 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Jew and Gentile are justified by faith. Without the law. Without the covenants of Israel. Without good works. Without water baptism. Without walking down an aisle. Without confessing. We are justified by faith alone. It has always been by grace, by faith, that one can be justified. It has always been by the justification found in Christ that God could be just in forgiving sin; this was only made known by the revelations given to Paul. 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. The law is not made void by faith. The law is not made void because Gentiles, not given the law, are saved by faith. Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Abraham was justified unto eternal life by believing God. Abraham was justified by works when he obeyed God and was willing to offer up Isaac. There is more than one meaning to justification; look at Psalm 51:4 where God is declared to be righteous in his judgment. There is justification unto eternal life as when Abraham by faith, believed God (Genesis 15:6). There is justification in being righteous as when Abraham was justified by works (Genesis 22:2 James 2:21). It should be noted that Abraham was justified by faith in Genesis 15:6, but after Genesis 15:6 covenant was made with Abraham. Covenant was made in Genesis 15:18 wherein God promised the land to his seed. God made covenant in Genesis 17:2 in which God promised to multiply Abraham exceedingly. God made covenant in Genesis 17:4 in which God promised to make Abraham father of many nations. God made in Genesis 17:10 the covenant of circumcision. In Genesis 17:1 God told Abraham to be perfect (whole, without blemish) before him. In Genesis 17:2 God said he would make the promised covenant if Abraham was perfect before him. Abraham had to keep the covenant (Genesis 17:9). The book of James says faith was made perfect by works (James 2:22), so it can be seen that Abraham was justified by works under the covenants made by God and his faith made perfect. 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. If we could produce good works God would be obligated by debt to repay us; this would not be grace. Grace is given not out of debt, but love. 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. God justifies the ungodly. We do not have to be righteous to be saved. We do not have to turn from sin and clean up to be saved. We have to believe on Jesus Christ who paid the penalty for our sin and justifies us freely by faith in his blood (Romans 3:24-25). Out of love and thankfulness we can, and should live in newness of life unto him (Romans 6:4
  2. Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: In Romans 3:9 Paul has proven that both Jew and Gentile alike are under sin; there is none righteous. 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. The Jew is under the law. The law has shown them to be guilty. The law has shown them to be under sin. The Gentiles have the law written in the heart as evidenced by the conscience and having sinned without the law, will perish without the law (Romans 2:12). 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. If there was a law given which could have given life, righteousness should have been by the law (Galatians 3:21) but none could keep the law. The purpose of the law was to reveal sin and drive us to seek the grace of God. 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; But Now, the righteousness of God without the law is manifested. This righteousness was witnessed by the law, which is not of faith and could not make any righteous (Galatians 3:11) ; this righteousness was witnessed by the prophets (Habakkuk 2:4). 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: The righteousness of God is by faith. The faith of Jesus Christ is that Jesus Christ is the object of our faith; it is in him that our faith is placed. The righteousness of God is unto all, both Jew and Gentile. The righteousness of God is placed upon all that believe; all who believe in Christ and believe the gospel (Romans 1:16). 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: All have sinned and come short; all are unable to save themselves and fall short of the righteousness found in the glory of God. God extended grace through the redemption of Christ who paid for our sins. God has justified us freely; God has placed upon us his righteousness freely in Christ Jesus without works, without covenants. 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; God has set forth Jesus as the propitiation, our mercy seat, and has appeased the righteous judgment of God on us and our sin. God in the past forgave sin, but how he could forgive and be just was not known. God could forgive sin by the propitiation of Jesus Christ and still uphold his righteousness. 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. God is just and righteous in forgiving our sin; the propitiation of Jesus Christ satisfies the justice of God and allows him to justify those who believe in Jesus.
  3. A lot of people agree with you. I could be wrong, but I am only presenting Biblical support for consideration as to why I think otherwise.
  4. There are two comings. One for the body of Christ before the tribulation and one for Israel at the end of the tribulation. Christ will come, I believe, before the tribulation for the body, the dead in Christ will rise first then we which are alive. After the tribulation Christ will come to take the believing remnant of Israel into the kingdom on earth (Luke 12:32). 1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. The saints, the body of Christ, will be with Christ forever in the heavenly places. The body of Christ must appear before the judgment seat of Christ for rewards. Here is a verse about the judgment seat, in which the saints (believers) will be with Christ: 1 Thessalonians 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. Now, the body of Christ, I believe, will NOT come back with Jesus at his coming for Israel and the establishment of his kingdom. Look at Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, Now look at Deuteronomy 33:2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them. Now look at Acts 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. Deuteronomy is speaking of the saints as being the angels who were mediators of the law.....saints are angels as well as believers. Also the body of Christ had not yet been formed when Deuteronomy was written; the body was not revealed before Paul (Ephesians 3:5). Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew clearly states the angels will come with Christ to establish the earthly kingdom for believing Israel. One last point, Jude could not have prophesised anything about the body of Christ because it was hid in God and only revealed first to Paul (Ephesians 3:9).
  5. Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. Paul is saying that the man who judges others for unrighteousness and thinks himself not as bad as others will not be excused and escape judgment because nonetheless, he is a sinner. 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; This man is storing up wrath for himself. 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: God will judge each person according to their own deeds. 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: God will demand continual good, continuance reflects perfection. Well doing is according to God's standard of righteousness. 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: The verses above are describing the righteous judgment of God, how God will judge according to our deeds. I see nothing in these verses to think we can be saved by doing good nor that upon salvation these verses imply we have to secure and keep our salvation by doing good. Romans 2:5 gives the context for these verses by saying that wrath is being stored up for the day of the revelation of the righteous judgment of God. We do not have to work for our salvation ; God justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:5).
  6. Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. The gospel of Christ is the progressive revelation of God reconciling heaven and earth to himself through Christ Jesus (Colossians 1:20). It was revealed in the law and the prophets and in the mystery revealed to Paul (Romans 16:25-26). It was manifested first to the Jew and also to the Gentile. 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. The righteousness of God is revealed from faith which leads to saving faith. 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Revealed is the wrath of God. 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. Paul is saying that there is none who judge others for unrighteousness that will be excused and escape judgment. 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: The verses above are describing the righteous judgment of God, how God will judge according to our deeds. I see nothing in these verses to think we have to secure our salvation by doing good. Romans 2:5 gives the context for these verses by saying that wrath is being stored up for the day of the revelation of the righteous judgment of God. We do not have to work for our salvation ; God justifies the ungodly (Romans 4:5). 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; God will not show favour in judgment, but will judge the Gentile and the Jew alike. 2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Being a circumcised Jew has profit only if the law is kept. 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. A Jew is one that inwardly has faith and is circumcised in the heart. The church, the body of Christ is not spiritual Israel, but a new creature (Galatians 6:15), one new man (Ephesians 2:15), in which there is neither Jew nor Greek (Galatians 3:28). 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none who will escape the wrath of God in judgment, neither Jew nor Gentile, for all have sinned. 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. If one did good they would be rewarded accordingly with honour and eternal life (Romans 2:10), but it has been established that there is none who do good. There is none who will escape wrath. 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; But now God has made a way to escape wrath; by believing in Christ Jesus, his redemption (Romans 3:24) and his imputed righteousness (Romans 4:24).
  7. In Philippians 1:14-18 it is the brethren who are preaching Christ They had to know the right gospel to preach We have to know the right gospel to believe It does not require three point sermons
  8. Romans 9, 10 and 11 is about Israel. In Romans 9:24-27 Is speaking of the believing remnant of Israel comprised of Jew and Gentile not the church, the body of Christ. Romans 11 is speaking of this remnant as the election of grace. Romans 11:13 is speaking to those Gentiles, still present, who are part of the remnant of Israel. Paul is not speaking to Gentiles in the church the body of Christ. These Gentiles believed the gospel of the kingdom and will enter into the earthly kingdom along with believing Israel. The Gentiles were not to be wise in their own conceits and ignorant that God will keep his covenant with Israel and so all Israel will be saved (Romans 11:25-32).    
  9. Trusting is having the hope(certainty) and confidence in who Christ is and what he has accomplished on our behalf in providing a full complete salvation for us without our need or ability to add anything.
  10. Romans 1:6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul in the book of Romans addresses the members of the church as saints (1 Corinthians 14:33) and as being called. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Being called is not the receiving of a special divine sense of direction for service, but rather it is the calling to salvation by the gospel, as can be seen in 2 Thessalonians 2:14. Here is the gospel by which we are called today: 1 Corinthians 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: We are all sinners who can not save ourselves. See Romans 3:23 Titus 3:5 Romans 5:6 Christ died for our sins; He was our substitute, He paid the full penalty and debt for our sin by his blood sacrifice. See 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:24 Romans 3:25 Romans 3:26 He was buried. He rose again for our justification ( to declare us righteous) and forgiveness of all our sin. He gives us His righteousness and eternal life. See Romans 4:25 Ephesians 1:7 Romans 4:22 Romans 4:23 Romans 4:24 1 Corinthians 1:30 All we have to do is believe the gospel. See Romans 4:5 1 Corinthians 1:21 Ephesians 1:13 Believing is being persuaded that something is true. See Romans 4:21 The moment you believe you have eternal life. Titus 1:1 Titus 1:2 Titus 3:7 Trust the gospel of your salvation. Believe in Jesus Christ to have provided payment for your sins and to give you eternal life. Place your faith in Jesus Christ, in his blood, his death and his resurrection.
  11. The relevance is in preaching the gospel for this dispensation as revealed to Paul.
  12. John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Israel was to believe only in the name of Jesus. Israel was to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. There is nothing at this time of the redemption by the cross. The gospel for our salvation was fully revealed to Paul by Christ. Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: These verses are saying that salvation is only in the name of Jesus. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16 is one of the most popular of verses for evangelism and while true, is not the verse we should be using exclusively, as there is nothing in this verse of the cross. Notice that in verse 18 it is by not believing in the name of the only begotten Son of God that one is condemned. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Even after the resurrection of Jesus, the name of Jesus was still being preached for the remission of sins and salvation. 1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Israel will receive eternal life by believing on the name of Jesus. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ. The book of John reveals Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God. Paul preached at first Jesus as the Son of God, Christ as the foundation of his gospel. Today it is true that we glorify and believe in the name of Jesus, but we also trust in him and his complete redemption by the cross for our eternal life (Ephesians 2:16 Colossians 1:20 1 Corinthians 15:3-4).
  13. There is an element of repentance involved (Luke 17:3)
  14. But under law if you do not forgive you will not be forgiven (Matthew 6:15)
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