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    Worthy Experiment!

    As far as God is concerned we are very much united. Eph 2:18-22, 18 For through him we both (Jew & Gentile) have access by one Spirit unto the Father. 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone]; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. We simply don't see the total greatness of what Jesus Christ accomplished by his crucifixion, resurrection, and ascension. 1Cor 13:12, For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean God is not good to His promises. We are being built together whether we know it or not, or whether we believe it or not. We have nothing to do with it, any more than we saved ourselves and somehow caused Christ to dwell within us (Col 1:27). God did that for us through the work of His son, our Lord Jesus Christ. Our hope (which will absolutely be fulfilled) is that when Christ reappears to gather us together the scales of blindness will fall away and we will be able to see with crystal clarity all that God has done for us. I'm sure we will all be surprised, and pleasantly so, when we finally see the true greatness of what God has done for us. At least I know I'll learn a few things I've been wrong about. What a day that will be!
  2. Good question. After all, you can't see, hear, smell, taste, or touch spirit. The 5 senses are in the flesh realm and have no way of registering spirit. John 3:6, That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. The scriptures say in no uncertain terms you have God's spirit dwelling within. Col 1:27, To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: It is the gift of holy spirit that makes you born again. But as I said, you can't sense spirit with any of your five senses. But God, in His infinite wisdom made it available for you to operate the gift of spirit in order to manifest it into the senses realm. 1Cor 12:7-10, 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: If you count, you will see 9 different ways the gift of holy spirit can be manifested into the senses realm. Speaking in tongues is perhaps the one familiar to most Christians. It is typically called a gift by many Christians, but the scriptures call it a manifestation. It's more expedient to stick with the scriptural designation. The gift is holy spirit, tongues is one of the manifestations of the gift. Once you operate any of the manifestations you will have proof positive that God's spirit does indeed dwell within you. I wish I could be with you to guide you into speaking in tongues, but I'm obviously not. Instead, if you want to learn more you may want to start here; How to Speak in Tongues God bless...
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    The Gift of Prophecy: Is It Still Given Today?

    Matt 13:58, And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief. There is nothing wrong with the promises in the scriptures. The problem is not believing them. God seldom acts unless some believer somewhere believes and acts upon what he said. God has no hands but our hands with which to serve the bread of life. It's up to people to learn, believe, and then act upon all the promises God as given in His word. God will never force anyone to perform any mighty work. The devil does (false signs and wonders), but not God. Acts 6:8, And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people. Who did the great wonders and miracles? While it may sound pious and respectful to say God did them, the verse actually says Stephen did them. God gave him the ability via the new birth, but He didn't force Stephen to do anything. Stephen, by his own free will, operated the gift God had given him. With few exceptions, God's hands are tied unless some person believes what God tells them and acts upon that belief. Any assemblies that are not seeing signs, wonders, and miracles are not seeing them because of unbelief. There is nothing wrong with God. People's unbelief is the problem. We must always use the scriptures themselves, and nothing but the scriptures, as our sole rule of faith and practice. Experience, feelings, or opinions are useless when it comes to understanding God. Take care...
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    The Gift of Prophecy: Is It Still Given Today?

    I believe the scriptures say exactly what you said about when perfection comes. 1Cor 13:9-12, 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. ["know" and "prophesy" are present tense. Paul is talking of the present time.] 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. ["shall be done away" is future tense. Nothing done away with yet.] 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. Verse 12 speaks of "now" and "then." Clearly, Paul is speaking of the future. Here is something few Christians see in the scriptures. Prophecy, as well as tongues, interpretation of tongues, faith, healing, miracles, word of knowledge, word of wisdom, and discerning of spirits are not gifts. 1Cor 12:7-10, 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: The gift is holy spirit which all born again believers receive the moment they confess the Lord Jesus and believe God raised them from the dead (Rom 10:9-10). Holy spirit is spirit and as such can not be seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or touched. John 3:6, That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Spirit and flesh are like oil and water. They don't mix. Every born again child of God has the gift of holy spirit. That is God's new creation in them (Eph 2:10) and the crux of the new birth. Inherent within that gift is the ability to operate the manifestations (not gifts) mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:8-10. It is up to each individual's free will to operate the manifestation. The ability is there for every child of God to operate any or all of the nine different ways the spirit can be manifested, or brought into the senses realm. You can't hear spirit, but you can hear yourself as you speak in tongues, interpret that which you spoke in tongues or prophecy (while in a group of believers. Tongues itself is for your own private prayer life. [1 C0r 14:2-5. ]). So they are called manifestations because they are thee 9 ways unseen spirit can be brought into the senses realm.
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    If God created us perfect...

    Keep your eyes, not on your flesh, but on the Christ in you. Col 1:27, To whom God would make known what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: When you got born again, God didn't do it by making your flesh somehow better. He doesn't work with flesh. Jesus said the flesh profits nothing (John 6:63). There is no good thing in the flesh (Rom 7:18). Regarding the flesh, no profit, no good thing. There is nothing in the flesh to work with to become righteous before God. Instead of making a "better flesh" version of you, God made a whole new you. Eph 2:10, For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. God put his holy spirit in you the moment you confessed Jesus as Lord and believed God raised him from the dead (Rom 10:9-10). It adds a completely new nature to your being. You still have the flesh and blood nature, but you now have a whole other nature (like dual citizenship) that is God's workmanship. God doesn't make mistakes. When He does a work in you, it is done, and it's done right! A child of God has two natures, flesh and spirit. This is important to understand; your flesh will never get any better than it ever was. It is still as profitless and void of anything good as it ever was. It's nature is, and will always be, to sin. Dogs bark, cats meow, cows bellow, and people sin. Gal 3:1-3, 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? The new birth is a spiritual job performed by God. Our flesh can never become good enough to deserve salvation. The Galatians understood that well enough, but they thought that after their new birth they needed to somehow "reign in" the flesh to become closer to God. Paul calls that a foolish thought. Now it's wonderful what a Christian wants to have a better walk with their heavenly father. But how to go about it? For the answer I would highly recommend you read the entire 7th chapter of Romans. Paul had the same thoughts as you about his flesh. Here's the last verse, which is the answer to getting closer to God. Rom 7:25, I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Keep you mind on God. Learn what He has made you and what He has done for you. People can only think one thought at a time. I can think, "Oh what an awful sinner I am. I'm a terrible Christian" or I can think, "God is so great sending His son to be crucified and raised in order to make me worthy to be His beloved child." One thought at a time is how life goes. Col 3:2, Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. Where is your flesh? It's sure not above. It's in this earth, so we aren't even supposed to think about it. Your affections (thoughts) should be on what He has done for you, and not what you think you can do to make yourself more worthy. It's all in the scriptures, so you need to get your head into them and see what they say about that Christ in you. God doesn't even bother looking at your flesh. All He sees in you is His number one, A+, most fantastic creature ever. Jesus Christ went through more hell than any of us can imagine, and he did it to make you that perfect individual. He loved you that much. Thank him for doing that instead of telling him he didn't do quite enough, that you need to finish the job. Hope that helps....
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    Faith

    Thank you. I love Hebrews 11! Those guys believed God's promises without reservation. God told them they'd get the promised land and they never doubted for one minute. They never saw it fulfilled with their eyes, but it was as good as done in their minds. Heb 11:13, These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Heb 11:39, And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: They went to their death with the same faith that God was good to His promises as they had on the day God first spoke to them. That's not even right though; their faith increased everyday as the learned how trustworthy God was. I think it would be fair to say their faith in God was never as solid as it was the day they died. Technically, the scriptures don't say that. Just a bit of Literary license on my part. The point is that they believed God regardless of the obstacles the devil placed in their way. They understood Romans 8:37 before it was written! I knew a man who used to say over and over, "It's still the word, even if it never comes to pass!" When I see a fiery dart heading my way, I look it square on and say to myself, "Who are you going to believe? God or your own two eyes?" I have no faith in the 5 senses because they've proven to be highly detrimental to my walk with the Father. God's ways are infinitely better, so that's were I go in times of distress...and times of times of non-distress also. Why Not? God is always there! God bless.
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    Faith

    Yep! 2Cor 12:9, And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Thanks.
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    Faith

    Faith is usually thought of as something we must have when there is no way to understand something. That is actually a dangerous trap to fall into. It leads people to believe in things that they really don't understand. "Just take it by faith," is too often used as a reply to someone who asks a question about something they don't understand. It is a way to get people to believe in any idea someone can dream up, whether it makes sense or not. The trinity is a perfect example. Even the staunchest of trinitarians readily admit it can't be explained or understood. Instead we are told to take it by faith. That is the only way it can continue to be taken as doctrine. People may say they have faith in something they don't understand, but it is just words. One must know something to be trustworthy before you can have any genuine faith in it. People have no trouble lending money to a friend as long as they know that friend to be reliable and trustworthy. Because they know their friend to be reliable, they have faith they will get re-payed. But how about a stranger or someone you really don't know that well? Because you don't know them you are not likely to have the faith they will repay the loan. So faith is really a matter of knowing something in a intimate way, far from accepting anything blindly. In the scriptures faith is used to indicate trust and confidence, not a blind acceptance. Rom 10:17, So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. We gain faith in God in direct proportion to how much we know about Him. He reveals Himself to us via the scriptures, so the more we know the scriptures the more faith we can have in God. Faith is a result of learning, not blindly accepting.
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