alchristfollower

I just finished a study on what "hell" actually is, why it doesn't exist yet, where it will actually be, what it will be like, where it's fire will originate from, where the "judgement" will take place, what "Mount Zion" actually is, and where it will be.

You just quoted a verse that says exactly what I said! You can only die to the Torah when you die to sin, "set you free in the Messiah Yeshuah from the Torah of sin and death" and "you have been set free from sin", which happens by the airflow of God, "For the Torah of the airflow of life has set you free", because the Torah has no power to set us free from sin, the airflow of God does! And by cutting away the sinful nature, then we become dead to sin, and subsequently become dead to Torah, because a Torah that reveals all that is sin no longer has a hold on a man that has been freed from sin and can no longer sin, and in this way, a man who receives the airflow of God is caused to obey Torah perfectly, which we were never able to do ourselves on our own without the airflow of God, "IN ORDER THAT THE RIGHTEOUS REQUIREMENT OF THE TORAH MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US... WHO WALK ACCORDING TO THE AIRFLOW". There is never a point where the Torah is discarded, the difference is that there is a righteousness caused by you while you still have your sinful nature, which still obeys Torah, and there is a righteousness caused by the airflow of God that releases you of your sinful nature, which still obeys Torah, but in a greater way. The latter is a superior righteousness than the former. As such, rather than understand these things, you people have gone in the complete other direction, by becoming LAW-LESS, thinking that becoming dead to Torah because of being set free from sin means "let us discard Torah!", when in fact the Messiah taught, "I did not come to abolish the Torah" and "until heaven and earth passes away not one jot or one tittle will pass from the Torah".

Let me requote, NO ONE WHO ABIDES IN HIM SINS; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. (1 John 3:6) WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18) WHOSEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE IS BORN OF GOD. (1 John 3:9) No matter how much you try to twist these scriptures, there is absolutely no denying that the scriptures teach that men can completely stop sinning. It is called becoming set apart by the airflow of God, which perfects a man inwardly, and cuts away the sinful nature of the heart, and is the righteousness of God caused by his airflow. This is the truth of what the scriptures teach which I have been saying over and over again. If you do not reach a point in your lives where you completely rid yourselves of sin, then you cannot inherit the kingdom of God. What do you suppose the Feast of Unleavened Bread meant by getting rid of absolutely all yeast in the house to then participate in the feast? We are also told to become living sacrifices to God, are you not aware that all sacrifices to God must be perfect and without any blemishes? Or how about participating in the Passover, that no man can be unclean when he eats the Passover? You fool yourself into believing a lie that the Messiah died in order to forgive your continual sins, instead of believing the truth that he died to forgive your PAST sins and cause you to never sin again, just as it is written concerning his first coming, Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, TO FINISH TRANSGRESSION, AND TO MAKE AN END TO SIN, AND TO ATONE FOR INIQUITY, AND TO BRING IN AEONIAL RIGHTEOUSNESS, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart one. (Daniel 9:24)

Why is it that you keep ignoring the scriptures I am quoting you? Are you so keen to discard the Torah? Let me requote, IN ORDER THAT THE RIGHTEOUS REQUIREMENT OF THE TORAH MIGHT BE FULL MET IN US, who do not live according to the flesh BUT ACCORDING TO THE AIRFLOW. (Romans 8:4) DO WE, THEN, NULLIFY THE TORAH BY THIS BELIEF? NOT AT ALL! RATHER, WE UPHOLD THE TORAH. (Romans 3:31)

You are only dead to the Torah when you become dead to sin. If you still sin, then you are still under Torah. Once you are freed from sin, then you are subsequently freed from Torah, because a Law that reveals everything that is sin no longer has a hold over someone that has been freed from sin and can no longer sin. As such, rather than become perfected and no longer be under Torah in that way, you have gone in the complete opposite direction and have become lawless, to your own demise, because of your confusion of why someone who is set apart by the airflow of God is no longer under Torah. The perfection caused by the airflow of God is the righteousness that comes from above and is not the righteousness that we establish on our own according to Torah, although it is indeed through Torah that we subsequently die to Torah, For through the Torah I died to the Torah so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with the Messiah and I no longer live, but the Messiah lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by belief in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. (Galatians 2:19-2) Because the Torah reveals all that is sin, that you must stop doing, to then receive the airflow of God, when then frees you from sin, and subsequently causes you to die to Torah. This isn't so difficult to understand.

Righteousness begins with belief, if your belief does not become works, then your belief is dead and useless. The righteousness of God is defined by the Torah, hence "if we are careful to obey these commands this shall be our righteousness", which means that your belief should eventually become the righteousness defined by the Torah at the very least, OR GREATER than the righteousness defined by it. The greater righteousness than the Torah comes through belief in the Messiah, through the setting apart of the airflow of God, which cuts away the sinful nature of the heart, which in turn, causes you to become more righteous than even Abraham and Moses, because you no longer have the sinful nature as they did, which is possible through the blood of the Messiah, which the blood of animals was never able to do. Even so, in the greater righteousness caused by the airflow of God, you still obey Torah! There is never a point in time where the righteousness of God discards Torah, otherwise it is not righteousness, no matter how much you believe! And I WILL PUT MY AIRFLOW WITHIN YOU, AND CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. (Ezekiel 36:27) IN ORDER THAT THE RIGHTEOUS REQUIREMENT OF THE TORAH MIGHT BE FULL MET IN US, who do not live according to the flesh BUT ACCORDING TO THE AIRFLOW. (Romans 8:4) DO WE, THEN, NULLIFY THE TORAH BY THIS BELIEF? NOT AT ALL! RATHER, WE UPHOLD THE TORAH. (Romans 3:31) This is why whoever receives the airflow of God, which is also called being "born of God", cannot sin, NO ONE WHO ABIDES IN HIM SINS; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. (1 John 3:6) WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18) WHOSEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE IS BORN OF GOD. (1 John 3:9) Because he is literally born again into a new man free from the sinful nature, And AIRFLOW OF YEHOVAH SHALL SPRING UPON YOU, and you shall prophesy with them, and YOU SHALL TURN INTO ANOTHER MAN. (1 Samuel 10:6) In Him YOU WERE CIRCUMCISED IN THE PUTTING OFF OF YOUR SINFUL NATURE… (Colossians 2:11) And I WILL GIVE YOU A NEW HEART, AND A NEW AIRFLOW I WILL PUT WITHIN YOU. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. (Ezekiel 36:26) These are not figures of speech guys, these are literal things. UNDERSTAND! For your own sakes please understand!

Did you somehow ignore the scriptures I just quoted? Hello? Let me requote, NO ONE WHO ABIDES IN HIM SINS; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. (1 John 3:6) WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18) WHOSEVER IS BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: AND HE CANNOT SIN, BECAUSE IS BORN OF GOD. (1 John 3:9) You are the one in error, not realizing that unless you reach this perfection, which you claim does not exist, and call me a liar for believing exactly as the scriptures states, you will never inherit the kingdom of God.

That is not true, for the apostles declared, "he has PERFECTED by one sacrifice those who have been set apart" and "he has freed us from sin" and "he who is born of God cannot sin", so it is clear from what the apostles teach that men can indeed become perfected, through the setting apart work of the airflow of God. And actually, if you do not attain this perfection, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God. The Messiah taught "be perfect".

My false gospel that we should lower ourselves by "sell your possessions" and "no one can be my disciple unless they sell give up everything they have" as the Messiah taught and as the early assemblies did in obedience to that command? My false gospel that we should begin to do good works by giving to the poor when the Messiah taught, "give to the poor"? My false gospel that we should obey the Torah when the Messiah taught "I did not come to absolish the Law" and "until heaven and earth passes away not one jot or one tittle will fall from the Law"? My false gospel that the blood of the Messiah frees us from sin and perfects us, which the blood of animals was never able to do? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Perhaps it is you who believes in a false gospel and a false Yeshuah that you call "Jesus".

Repentance means stop doing evil. If you think repentance simply means feel sorry while you continue doing evil works then you have fooled yourself into believing a lie that your belief in no way should involve your works! The gospel of the Messiah is about ceasing to do evil, and begin to do good works. Why do you think the Messiah taught, "give to the poor"? Hello?

There is nothing set apart about you if you are sinning like everyone else, even if you do believe. But now, if you are freed from your sinful nature, by truly receiving the airflow of God, then you are truly set apart from everyone else. Do you even understand what "set-apart" means? The Torah declares, "so you can distinguish between the set-apart and the ordinary". If you are ordinarily sinning like everyone else, you are not set-apart. Once you are truly set apart by the airflow of God by having the sinful nature cut away, then you are made righteous, and are subsequently perfected and caused to never sin again. This is the "perfect obedience" of God that I speak of, which I do not claim to have yet, but I am working towards it, because it happens only when you have lowered yourself by selling your possessions, completely obey Torah, and begin to do good works... all through belief in the Messiah. You have fooled yourself if you think mere belief will save you.

The airflow of God sets us apart on the inside, which happens the moment he cuts away the sinful nature, and in turn, makes us righteous, all through belief in the Messiah.

If I were seeking to be made righteous by Torah, I wouldn't be speaking of the perfection that comes from the airflow of God, I would just be saying, "obey only the Torah" as the Jews say, but that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is "obey Torah", inclusive of doing the good works of the Torah, in conjunction with belief in the Messiah and his teachings, which say "lower yourself" by "selling your possessions and all your properties", to then receive the set-apart airflow, which will grant you a righteousness greater than you can achieve on your own, to perfectly obey Torah, because you have been set free from your sinful nature by receiving the set-apart airflow.

Imputed righteousness means that you are made righteous by the airflow of God, through belief in the Messiah, when he enters your body and frees you from the sinful nature, hence "imputed righteousness". It never means you believe in the Messiah, and then continue committing adultery, and you are called "righteous", for in that case you are not righteous, no matter how much you believe. The righteousness of God always involves both belief and also works, which is why the belief of Abraham, through which righteousness was imputed to him, also came with works.

You can only be freed from Torah if you are freed from your sinful nature, because the Torah no longer has power over you, since you have been freed from that which the Torah reveals, sin. This is only possible if you receive the airflow of God, which frees you from your sinful nature, and perfects you, which is when you begin to walk according to the airflow, and not according to the desires of your body, "the flesh". And even when you are freed from sin, and walk according to the airflow of God, you end up obeying Torah, even though you are no longer under it, because freedom from sin also means obedience to Torah.