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  1. I believe God can do anything but we must still face the consequences of our sin or crime, as in "39.One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him, saying, 'Are you not the Christ?Save yourself and us!'40 But the other rebuked him saying, Do you not fear God,since you are under the same sentence of condemnation?41.And we indeed justly , for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds,but this man has done nothing'42 And he said,Jesus ,remember me when you come into your kingdom.'43 And he said to him, Truly ,I say to you,today you will be with me in Paradise."(ESV.Lk.23:39-42).They still had to face the music for what they had done regardless of the fact that one was forgiven ,although I am not so sure whether or not, the one that rebuked Christ was.The Bible does not say as far as I Know.
  2. Although difficult for our finite minds to fully comprehend generally,that is how it is.
  3. Thank-you for the response regarding other topics addressed at the Council ,but Scriptures were also dealt with as I understand the following" Canon 1 We have judged it right that the canons of the Holy Fathers made in every synod even until now, should remain in force. Before the holding of the Council of Chalcedon, in the Greek Church, the canons of several synods, which were held previously, were gathered into one collection and provided with continuous numbers, and such a collection of canons, as we have seen, lay before the Synod of Chalcedon. As, however, most of the synods whose canons were received into the collection, e.g. those of Neocæsarea, Ancyra, Gangra, Antioch, were certainly not Ecumenical Councils, and were even to some extent of doubtful authority, such as the Antiochene Synod of 341, the confirmation of the Ecumenical Synod was now given to them, in order to raise them to the position of universally and unconditionally valid ecclesiastical rules. It is admirably remarked by the Emperor Justinian, in his 131st Novel, cap. j.; We honour the doctrinal decrees of the first four Councils as we do Holy Scripture, but the canons given or approved by them as we do the laws. It seems quite impossible to determine just what councils are included in this list, the Council in Trullo has entirely removed this ambiguity in its second canon"
  4. I thought I would share this pertaining to just how far can one bend God's word to accommodate current ubiquitous trends for example homosexuality into the Christian muile .It seems to me that this is nothing "new" .The folks way back also dealt with these same issues.Allen Verhhey in his book "The Great Reversal,Ethics and The New Testament p 170" tells us how they dealt with these issues back then already. "The conjunction of the divine and human has always been difficult to be precise about-whether the conjunction is relevant to the church's confession about Jesus of Nazareth or the sacraments or the Bible.In the case of Jesus of Nazareth,for example,the church finally contented itself at the Council of Chalcedon (A.D.451) by constructing four dikes against heresy. Chalcedon did not make a positive statement but a series of limiting ones about this conjunction of the devine and human.The conjunction is made asynchytos atreptos.adiaretos,and achoristos :that is,the conjunction that the Bible is both the Word of God and human words must not confuse the two natures,transmute the one into the other,divide them into separate categories.or contrast them according to area or function. Chalcedon's dikes may be erected today against the floodwaters of both liberalism and fundamentalism.The error of fundamentalism has typically been to identify and confuse the human words with the Word of God;the error of liberalism has typically been to divide the two and to contrast the human words with the divine Word.A Chalcedonian perspective will appreciate fundamentalism's concern for faithfulness to Scripture and liberalism's concern for creative attention to contemporary issues,but it will disown both fundamentalism's identification of the human words of Scripture with the Word of God and liberalism's contrast of the human words of Scripture to the Word of God... The authorization,candidly stated,would be this:if a rule or command or any moral teaching is found in Scripture,then an identical rule or command or a moral teaching is normative for the church today.(There is usually some condition or rebuttal-such as,unless the rule or command or teaching is intended to be only a temporary obligation rather than a perpetual obligation.)In this view,the tasks for Christian ethics are to harmonize and systematize the biblical rules commands and moral teachings and to apply them to cases as a contemporary code. Liberalism's contrast of the human words of Scripture with the divine Word has sometimes backed the 'liberation' of Christian ethics from the human words of Scripture.Where there remains a concern for biblical authority,the authorization ,candidly stated,is this:if a rule or command or moral teaching found in Scripture is the Word of God rather than merely human words,then it is normative for the church (or for everyone)."
  5. I would go along with that for instance.Hypothetically , imagine if the question pertaining to marriage (Mt 22:23-33), was presented today on a TV presentation with Christ being tested by the Sadducees, in front of a live audience the way we do things these days.I am sure Christ's answer to their" clever" little loaded question, would have brought the house down with claps and laughs from the audience.I suppose there are many more instances one could think of.
  6. I would go along with that.Especially if the Church is "selling itself down the river" in order to accommodate "Church Growth" and distorting God's will as revealed in the Bible.I believe that Christ's warning through John to the Church in Laodicea Rev 3:14-22 is most applicable when so-called "Christian Churches" are not obedient to the discipline and will of God and that the member who decides rather to stay home rather than go falsely "Huge" are comforted by "19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline.So be earnest,and repent.20Here I am!I stand at the door and knock.If anyone hears my voice and opens the door,I will come in and eat with him,and he with me.21 To him who overcomes.I will give the right to sit with me on my throne.22He who has an ear,let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."(N.I.V. Rev3:19-22)
  7. I did a sermon the other day and in my preparations Ps 84 cropped up.Here is King David who has all the comforts of his day eg. A Priest or a Prophet at his bidding to come and preach in the palace in the King's sitting room or lounge "live"(if he wanted it), better than a church on a big screen as we have it nowadays. Of course there are those who have obvious legitimate reasons for not being able to physically attend. What blows me away here is that David does not even mention any particular "Priest" or other Hi-Tech attraction, but simply "Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere;I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked."(N.I.V. Ps 84:10) the Good News Bible reads "live in the homes of the wicked".One must consider this in the context of the whole chapter of course,but I am pretty sure most folks (including myself) know exactly what David means when it boils down to thinking up a good few reasons for not going to Church on a particular Sunday,when there is no real good reason for not going, besides good old fashioned "laziness"!
  8. So true!Nothing really changes when it boils down to the Nature of Man.
  9. Of course it would be a very fine line which would distinguish the difference between the two institutions.One would have to be cautious in simply branding a main stream church as a cult. Personal issues such as jealousy may be involved, as it usually is with politics. Each trying to be first,as John puts it.
  10. Thanks for that valuable advice.
  11. I went for a test the other day here in South Africa which offers free medical for those who qualify, and also qualified for a free hearing aid for my left ear.There is obviously a long waiting list,but at least there is light at the end of the tunnel praise the Lord.But I tell you what I will do though, (this is need to know just between us folks here very hush hush), I plan to take it out at home when it suits me, for obvious reasons.
  12. I wonder if John also does not some up a "cult" leader for us when he describes Diotrephes' church managerial style, stating " 9.I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes,who loves to be first,will have nothing to do with us.10.So if I come ,I will call attention to what he is doing,gossiping maliciously about us.Not satisfied with that,he refuses to welcome the brothers.He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church."(N.I.V. 3 Jn 9-10).Bob Utley calls Diotrephes the "first Church Boss" in his commentary on this matter "This man is the first recorded "power-broker" or "church boss." We do not know if he was the pastor or simply a significant layman. However, this does show his motives. This kind of egotistical individual has been present in the church in every age! Whether he was also a Gnostic is uncertain and unstated, but possible."(Utley.You Can Understand The Bible.ibiblio.org) So it follows that many mainstream Christian Institutions which do not follow Christ's instructions pertaining to leadership where "25...rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them26. Not so with you..."(Mt.20:25-26) would possibly also place themselves within the definition of a "Cult".I say this if one considers the characteristics of a cult leader as explained in the above discussion according to my understanding ,which no doubt stands to be corrected. Thank you for sharing these truths with us as a true shepherd would?
  13. I was wondering what you folks think regarding this natural trait mentioned so often throughout the Bible.
  14. Not that creatures"mocking" God is going to effect Him in anyway,as much as the creature doing the "mocking",as I see it.The issue is that He is "holy" and expects us to also be "holy".But the crucial thing is He will not allow His Holy Name to be defiled according to " Ezekiel 36:22-32 NASB (UPDATED) TEXT: Eze_36:22-32 22”Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, “It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am about to act, but for My holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you went. 23I will vindicate the holiness of My great name which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD,” declares the Lord GOD, “when I prove Myself holy among you in their sight. 24For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land. 25Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances. 28You will live in the land that I gave to your forefathers; so you will be My people, and I will be your God. 29Moreover, I will save you from all your uncleanness; and I will call for the grain and multiply it, and I will not bring a famine on you. 30I will multiply the fruit of the tree and the produce of the field, so that you will not receive again the disgrace of famine among the nations. 31Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good, and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and your abominations. 32I am not doing this for your sake,” declares the Lord GOD, “let it be known to you. Be ashamed and confounded for your ways, O house of Israel!” (Utley,Bob. You can understand the Bible.ibiblio.ca...Web
  15. Praise the Lord!We who do not suffer now might well suffer on the morrow if it is God's will.May your experience teach us all never to take God's gifts for granted all is given by His grace ,even good health. "For what makes you different from anyone else?What do you have that you did not receive?And if you did receive it,why do you boast as though you did not."(N.I.V. 1 Cor 4:7).I know its easy just to quote verses out of the Bible, if one is not in the same position,but I pray that God will bless you with pain relief as He deems fit.He is our loving caring Father.
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