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The second part the holy spirit recently unveiled to me is those that drink of her wine, those that have become intoxicated by her, are those that participate mind and soul in her ways. What does that truly mean? God gave me an experience of her 'wine' last week. It was quite intoxicating. I was suddenly without debt and richer enough in assets to feel full. All I had to do is go along with the Beast system. I felt full, blissful, rich in assets and so on. Confortable. Secure. And disposible. It lasted an entire week before I got canned and loss the extra income/responsibity/authority and pivileges that went with it. For a moment I felt her, harlot bablyon. I drank of her excess. I worshipped at her feet. I obeyed her dictates. But then God ended it and I was poor and hapless again. Suddenly I felt a real loss of power. That 'power' was the spirit that rules over earth, ie satan.

There is more information about this mark I have recently had insights about from the holy spirit. It has to do with the spirit of Babylonia the Bible calls Harlot Babylon. Rev. 17 reveals she has a mark on her forehead. " And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."

Rev. 11:15-19 is still just referencing the 144,00, in my view. It says to me "judge the dead" as in judge the martyrs and find them worthy to rule the nations on thrones given to them by God, in Jesus's name (ie. Rev. 20:4 declares this).

Which part? Jesus is quoted as saying the soul sleeps until final judgement. The information about shoal and paradise is still taught by Jews, but not western evangelicals. Everything else is my opinion and comes from wisdom I have received directly from God.

It is a valid argument. The Bible does not exactly state why. First off, when a human dies the Bible says they sleep until final judgement. What part sleeps? My answer would be the soul sleeps until final judgement. So who is resurrected from the dead in Rev. 20:4? That states only the martyrs (144,000) are resurrected. Since only the soul sleeps and awaits judgement, my analysis states that their asleep soul reawakens when it is called up by the sound of God's command. So only souls are resurrected and therefore get new bodies as their old ones are now dust. Many or most feel their old bodies (of the 144,000) and memories come alive. I don't feel this is the case. Next question is about Heaven. Is there one? I don't see souls as going to Heaven, ever. I see in the old Testament, pre-soul time (as I see it, not necessary others) or period, that people went to Paradise, in Heaven. What went to Paradise? Answer, their own spirit went there. Jews still feel this way. What is Paradise and what does that have to do with us? That is a mystery.

I studied his thoughts on medicine and they are valid. But, nothing else he says is. He is very wrong about the past, future etc. The way he contacts this spirit tells me he is using a demon like a shaman does to answer questions. That is why it is accurate on medicine, but lies about anything else. He sows seeds of discontent.

When I read Ephesians 4:8 regarding what Jesus did after his resurrection, quote: Berean Study Bible This is why it says: “When He ascended on high, He led captives away, and gave gifts to men.” Cont. I see a variety of interpretations of this verse's meaning. I can see he led people's spirits out of Shoel, for example. I believe the 'many gifts' references 'souls' as I feel that Jesus was the very first living soul on earth and it is only because of him, we have souls today. Hosea 13:14 ESV "Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol? Shall I redeem them from Death? O Death, where are your plagues? O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion is hidden from my eyes." Conclusion Where did he take these human spirits (as I believe the prophets of the old testament had none)? To Heaven and to the Tree of Life. Only souls go to new earth and the prophets of old had none. The saints resurrecting in Rev. 20:4 are those that followed after Jesus's time.

The true issue here is knowing the difference between a soul and a human spirit. A soul is a seed of God given to men by Jesus. The human spirit is a less viable construct than a soul. It has existed since the start. The human spirit either goes to Sheol or Paradise. The human soul is either judged and toss into the lake of fire or ascends to New earth.

The trauma of losing trust in someone you depend on it horrendous, and has caused me great grief in my case. God has requested I be patient. The situation is in hand, he says (when I pray to him that is what I feel he is saying). I have always prayed that God unveils the mysteries of my life to me. I have always wanted to understand who I am and why people treat me the way that they do. It has not been an easy journey and those closest have either accepted who I am or have rejected it wholeheartedly. It is hard to say much more about my current dilemma here. Thanks for understanding @Charlie744 I feel in one way it is tied to this mark in the hand. That people are accepting satan into their lives and it darkens their entire being and outlook on life. They go from living life, to embracing death as in the Tree of good and evil.

I havn't been sharing my own personal experiences with this mark on the hand because it seems farfetched. But I have noticed a darkening of people's spirit ever since last March when, I feel, darkness spread over the nation when everything was closed up by the State in order to 'protect' us. I have been closely watching friends and family, and it is like some light in them has gone dark, and now they are free to do evil at will. One person in mind has really gone full on evil in my life and I do need prayers now to protect myself from them. They once appeared as a bright light in my life, but over the past year they became bitter and remote. Now they are openingly attacking me. Is this satan's agenda? To turn people against one another? I feel like I am in a horror movie and there is little hope now to escape.

Sometimes, I imagine the mark on the hand in terms of a color mark. In this case, the color black. So a blackened hand is the sign of the mark. Of course this is only a spiritual blackened hand image and still won't be seen with the naked eye.

I suggest a homeopathic remedy for vaccine shots called Thuja. Take a dose before and after to help with vaccine side effects. Been using it a while. Seems to help. I use Thuja 200C. Can take it daily for a week afterwards. High dose with Vit. C as well. If you have not used homeopathy before it comes in a little vial with white small pellets. Boiron is a common brand. Do not touch the pills with your hand. Dissolve pellets in mouth, don't swallow. Do not eat food 30 min. before and after (nor drinks except water, which can take right before and 15 minute after.).

I have put together a list. It took some time. The question that begs to be answered is who receives the mark? I've given it a lot of thought and prayer and God has given me to some insights on the matter. First off, I am choosing people who claimed to be saved by Christ, as my subjects. That is because anyone not a Christian is already apostate and cursed with sin. So who receives the forehead mark? 1. Someone who commits major sins (ie. stealing, lying, doing drugs etc.) and is unrepentant (which means they refuse to confess) gets this mark. OK. That was an easy one. A Christian with a secret anti-God life. 2. Next. This is where it gets tougher. People here on worthy do not like to talk about ideologies. So I looked for the very most anti-God one there is and I'd say it was communism. People, at least I do, think socialism is not that far behind. It is a given Marxism is on that list. OK. Not so tough. But, here is the kicker, or issue, who gets to decide what is or isn't communism in disguise? I mean no Christian would ever go around and teach straight out Nazism, for example or teach Karl Marx. But what if they have, but did not understand that? Some people think the common core education curriculum falls into that category and those that attest to it have fallen under the Beast's spell. Anyway, I think those people, people who teach Marxist beliefs, even if they don't realize it, or attest to such beliefs as their own, are in this 'forehead' marked group. Perhaps there are objections to this. I have left it therefore, open to interpretation. Frame it how you will, but belief systems matter to God. 3. Finally This is the most questionable group, I mean the group that may or may not get a forehead mark. What about those that just go along for the ride and get off on it? I mean the ones that like the idea of socialism even if they do not attest to it verbally? Do they get the mark? I mean, for example, not a teacher of common core, but someone with children or someone in education generally who gets regularly exposed to common core teachings (my one example) who eventually succumbs to its allure and starts questing capitalism, the constitution and certain liberties? Do they receive such a mark. I feel they do. It gets to a tipping point eventually with them and God. It is like a slow burn receiving the mark this way, but eventually, like the last kid at a Birthday party to jump into the pool with everyone else, eventually, they jump. Not because they necessary like too but because they need to feel connected to the group structure. They comply. Not really Christian material are they, huh?

I thought they were just going to kill the Christians. Anyway, I feel what is going on on earth, that we can witness, like the chip information, is merely a reflection of what is going on in the spiritual. But this mark seems to have more spiritual weight, in my view, that physical. I mean it means more to God than it does to mankind. I think satan would love to chip us like cattle, but he does things like that in order to place fear in the hearts of men. I mean that is the only power he has, fear. The chip or bar code tattoo won't keep you from being saved by God's grace. But the mark will.

I have had several insights over the years about both marks. The forehead mark to me means they serve satan through their thoughts which turn into deeds, as you say. But the hand mark got me more concerned. Then it came to me these are the people who go out and actually actively work against God. The difference between the marks is the forehead mark is easier to get. It just means you are going along with satan's ideas and that in turn is turning you from God. But the mark on the hand is far more instrumental to satan. It means you actively are working for him, on purpose. I think the forehead mark people just fall into their set of circumstances and accept it, evil and all, but the hand marked people choose their path. They purposefully work to support satan's plans. .............. My next big question is what happens to them after they receive this mark (either one). So far, I get they are cursed by God, but what does that mean spiritually? What I came up with in prayer, from God, is they are banned from his presence permanently. If that makes sense. So does this mean their prayers don't get answered, for example? Yes. That they can't get forgiveness for sins? Yes. Wow. All I can say.

I went a a little further in my looking and prayed on it and I think in one way, money is involved, but loosely. In other words, a person serving Satan directly, and receives financial gain for that work, gets this particular mark. In other words, the vast numbers of people who have turned against God, who we call apostate, do not automatically get this mark. They will have to choose at some point. Either serve satan, by either taking money to do his bidding or die. Or at the bare minimum, get the forehead mark (which I feel has to do with going along with this type of situation and not fighting against it for God.) for mentally agreeing with satan and his plans. You could imagine a future, a dystopia, where people who only do evil, get paid for it and anyone that does not agree, gets killed off in some manner (over worked etc.). So turn against God or else.

I have prayed long and hard on what the phrase, "mark on the hand", means from Revelations 13:16. Rev. 13:16 KJB "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:" I, over time, had to let go of many ideas of what this particular mark was. It did not feel like it was a chip in the hand. It did not seem related to a vaccine shot. It did not feel like a bar code or tattoo. But I did research each of those ideas, but so far, zip. They go no where. I always felt is was a spiritual designation as well. But no evidence exist of what exactly it is. So it is open to interpretation and therefore remains a mystery. Also, there have been many voices on this topic and each typically tries to incorporate some aspect of buying or selling into the equation. I finally had to let that part of the scripture from Rev. 13:17, go as well. Perhaps, I finally settled on, this mark has nothing to do with buying or selling, not because I say so, but because I can't find a way to incoporate it into any ideas we have, logically. I mean no one is dying or being stopped from buying or selling right now. Though you can see that might actually occur, but it hasn't. Not in relation to any of the mark ideas I just mentioned (chip, vaccine, bar code/tattoo). If that is so, that buying and selling are not part of this mark's features, then what now is it exactly? That brought me full circle back to a spiritual mark designating someone has received for served Satan. In other words, my final verdict is people who have a mark of the beast on their right hand, actually service to Satan. They work for him, body and soul. What do you think? Does the term "on the right hand" mean 'works for satan'?

Thanks. Food for thought. Though how to find such a person probaby a lot tougher than it first appears. I personally don't feel it is a good idea to add one's genetic DNA information to public databases. They are forever, out of your control and who knows what can be done with the information. Afraid to find out. My issue is rather confined. I need to find out if I am related to a certain relative or not. I discovered this past year I probably am not genetically related. This brought up worry, confusion and many doubts in myself. Been praying my way through them because the people involved do not want me to know if they are or not. They are invested in the current setup and me blowing it up (their version of reality) just strengthens their view that I am not a good person for even doubting them. Been a sad year for me. So really can't get their DNA anyway. Have to have money, loads, to go through someone who can find out for me, privately. All alone on this matter. Very saddened, burdened, etc.

I don't have any answers but that when I prayed upon it, as I do have a valid reason to get tested (there is an issue with my family tree), I felt the pull of the holy spirit away from the idea. I was just looking at the least costly ways on-line. So if I ever need too, I have it done the private way only (and not the add to whoevers genetic data base, at perhaps less cost).

I don't think it is that far a stretch to see that many people from that region (the middle east), including Jews, crossed over into Europe and settled that region, thousands of years ago. They lost their Jewish identity and took identities of their region, like France, Germany etc. I've read some articles that touched upon this topic so it has been discussed before, at length, but I don't see this idea gaining much traction in the modern Church's culture. They like their definition of Gentile and Jew and to broach this topic with alternate definitions of 'gentile' for example broaches the topic of word changes occurring in Bible text. Nothing that can be proved well. It gets complicated then when you begin to see alternative viewpoints on this topic. Doesn't make for great pulpit talk and some would feel is a divisive topic. Thank goodness we invented the internet to overcome such stagnation.

I feel that Rev. 21 is speaking of a mature structure that will be developed first here on earth as what we call the 3rd temple of God that will eventually be moved to New earth, wholesale. Only that structure will exist on new earth. Hard to imagine, but if you think in terms of what is Heaven really like and what is God really made of and what exactly will we become once we die here and get our souls moved there, it makes a tiny bit more sense, to me at least, what Rev. 21 is referencing by bride and wife language. It is easy to get mixed up what is being referenced here because God wanted this information to remain a mystery, in my book.

Sorry, did you just say God has puffed living creatures into everyone? OK. Will stop giving you a bad time about this. If you like my opinion on what happened.... It is... God named Adam and then later when Adam was on earth, that name became 'red (or rubby) man'. I just don't see the color 'red' as applicable to the original Adam who I feel was not made of flesh and bone and hence had no color associated with him in the garden. The second point, which is far fetched I understand to people but not to me, is that there are living beings (creatures) in Heaven that God uses. Since this may be the only passage in the Bible that references them as coming from God in a 'puff' snd then going into Adam, who is already formed, I feel at this juncture in his creation, and changing him from a living being to a living soul (I suspect), I can only speculate from here on out what they really are. I will state they make up what we call the Tree of Life and I feel that they are they are the hidden manna (Rev. 2:7 and 2:17) mentioned in Revelations too. Rev. 2:7 speaks of 'eating' living creatures. "Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." Rev. 2:17 speaks of hidden manna: Rev. 2:17 "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who overcomes, I will give the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it." Conclusion God used a form of power that requires he breathe out something that is within himself, that is intelligent and self alive (self aware) and can be referred to as animate (having life), into Adam. This made Adam immortal and hence a God. This creature came originally from the Tree of Life. But it resided in God himself eventually. So now we know how Heaven functions. Hint: What is the human spirit once it enters Paradise, per the Jew's view? I can speculate further upon request.

The real reason people celebrate October 31st is to celebrate an ancient pagan holiday. People tend to know this fact already. No one ever wonders why. Why do pagans want people to practice witchcraft on that particular day? Why pick that one day of the year to get the entire public behind curses, basically? The question should be, why does satan hate that one day of the year? The second question should be why do the Catholics call the next day, Nov. 1st, All Saints Day? What is so important about both those days that both a christian holiday (holy day) and a satanic day of devilment both occur right then? Jesus was said, by historians, to be born in late fall. That is just based on what the bible tells us about what was happening when Jesus arrived. October 31st falls in that date range @FresnoJoe

Trying to follow your translations here, I noted that this red man had living creatures breathed into him. Did you catch that?

The issue with prophesying, which I call giving the word of the Lord, is that it is always unpopular, what the Lords says. I mean the Lord will bring up the unfamiliar and what people want is the familiar. There is no reason for the Lord to rehash old truths. That seems to bug people, that he has something new to say and add to old text. I think it leaves them feeling incredibily vulnerable for believing in what they do, if he is attempting to straighten out something they believe, that is no longer true. Seen this myself, incredibily.