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  1. It is like how a human the son is the son of the human the father. So, yes I would say it is like this. But I think every Christian teaching and scripture has a love meaning for us to live. So, we understand the Trinity by how God means this to help us find out how to love. "Father" and "Son" are Persons of family tenderly caring and sharing love. God is not called the Judge and Prosecutor and Bailiff, or the Bank President and Bank Manager and Bank Teller, or the General and Lieutenant and Sargent. So, we know the Trinity by living in Their way of loving. And God's word has scriptures about how to become and how to relate in Their love. More and more, we understand the Trinity, by living the way Their love has us relating.
  2. He alone is worthy to take care of us and correct us and personally guide us in God's peace. "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15) So, yes there is surrender, and there is personal submission to how He rules us in His own peace.
  3. Believing includes trusting. We trust God to have us doing what He means by His word. We do not depend on ourselves. "for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13)
  4. Thank you for encouraging us, Short Angel You are welcome to join in and comment. I am sure you have unique things to offer and share. God uses every one of His children. James 1:5 > "If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him." (James 1:5)
  5. James 1:4 > "But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing." (James 1:4) So, patience which is in God's love has "perfect work". But worldly patience can be how we only keep our mouths shut but inside ourselves we are struggling against anger and frustration and unforgiveness, and we aren't getting anything really good done. But in God's love, we are caring and kind and creative while being patient. And God's word says > "Love suffers long and is kind," in 1 Corinthians 13:4. And we might have noticed how a loving and caring person can be kind to others even while he or she is suffering. And the person can even do good and compassionate things for others. I now think of how if I am patient with someone who is wrong . . . patient in God's love > I will be kind to the person . . . having compassion > "He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2) I will be creative, even to use my own experience of how I can fail > use my sin problems to help me understand and feel for and have hope for others. I think the "perfect work" of God's patience means what is deeper than the good works of love. While we are being patient in God's love, this love is effecting us in our nature so we become more and more strong in Jesus. And this means we have His things in us, so we "lack nothing." This patience is in Jesus; so it has company ! ! ! And, with this, we have how we can speak the truth in love with one another, that you "may grow up in all things into Him" (in Ephesians 4:15). But "all things" of Jesus includes His creativity, so in this patience we can do things very well.
  6. What sort of faith are they losing? Our Apostle Paul says we need "faith working through love" (in Galatians 5:6); and "Love never fails," we have in 1 Corinthians 13:8. So, a person needs to "first" trust in Jesus > Ephesians 1:12. So, believing means trusting and therefore getting God's result which is He corrects us > Hebrews 12:4-14 and He succeeds in keeping us > "for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13) So, it is wise to trust in Jesus by submitting our will to Him, for real correction and how He keeps us, and does not leave us and forsake us to how well we can keep our own selves, which is not well, at all. Of ourselves without Christ, we are sure to fail.
  7. And therefore it is not a do-it-ourselves thing! Because through Jesus we have all we share as family. So, if anyone claims we are do-it-ourselfers, this is incorrect.
  8. Our Apostle Paul says "we" "first trusted in Christ", in Ephesians 1:12. So, I see Jesus means believing and therefore trusting. And with trusting comes obeying. And our basic calling as Christians includes > "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15) So, obeying God basically includes obeying how He personally rules each of us in our "hearts", in His own peace which is His harmony working in our spirit and feelings and emotions and thinking and what He has us doing and saying in such personal sharing with Him. And as ones living "worthy of the calling with which you were called" > here is how we relate in God's love > "with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love," (in Ephesians 4:1-3) "Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32) So, if we believe in Jesus, we trust how He wants us to submit to our Heavenly Father and be personally ruled by God in His own peace. Plus, we share and care as His family in His gentle and humble way of loving and relating. Because we believe in Jesus and therefore how He has us loving. If you believe your house is on fire and your children are inside, you are acting on what you believe. What we really believe does decide what we are doing. So, in case we suppose we believe the Gospel, but we do not constantly seek to submit to how God rules us in His peace, and we do not relate kindly and gently, why don't we? And I would consider that "all" gentleness and humility includes in our emotions and ways of reacting, because we are growing in the character of Jesus who is "gentle and lowly in heart" (Matthew 11:29). So, if we are not loving like Jesus and His example call us to relate, what excuses are we trusting? Trusting and even obeying an excuse is not trusting and obeying Jesus!! And Hebrews 12:4-14 guarantees how our Father loves us and therefore corrects us. So, in case we have been failing to live in our calling, we can trust that our Father is committed to succeeding in correcting our character so we do better. Our basic calling includes being personally submissive to God in His own peace, discovering how He rules all within us and has us discovering how He has us loving any and all people, gently and humbly and being "tenderhearted". And Hebrews 12:4-14 guarantees how God is committed to correcting us the way only He can truly correct us. So, this is what we are called to. God desires to be this personal and sharing with every one of us, and His real correction does change our nature so we are with Him, like this. This is included in what grace does, in us.
  9. What we are thinking can be the prayer that God is hearing. "rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God." (1 Peter 3:4) So . . . are we being gentle and quiet in love, so we can hear God and submit to Him? "And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15) This is a basic of Christianity, how we all are "called in one body" > all of us, then > to submit to how God personally rules each of us in His peace. So, this is included in how to pray and how to always be ready to hear God. Prayer is for hearing, not only being heard > "swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath" (in James 1:19-20)
  10. The Bible does say God ordered the killing of all people, in certain cases. The purpose included, in my understanding, that He wanted to make sure the Amalekites did not influence the Jews to go against God. They were anti-God people. I consider that even an infant could already have the evil spirit of the child's parents; so God ordered all to be killed. But Jesus came and says He is not interested in killing people who are wrong or a threat; but Jesus came that any and all people can be saved. But this works only through Jesus. In the Old Testament we see how things work . . . without Jesus. Without Jesus in the mix, God used the Law of Moses and death of evil people. So, in the early scriptures, in my opinion, we see different examples of how things work because of Jesus not coming, yet. It shows what methods can be needed to handle sin when there is not the way which Jesus came to establish. So, things in the early scripture are an object lesson, so now we can see how important it is that Jesus came and died for our sins.
  11. I would say God has Christians who are attending in denominational churches. And ones might be pastors. And ones like these might be wise to however the denomination is incorrect.
  12. James 1:1 > James says he is a "bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ". So, even though he is so great, he is a servant which is great in Christianity. And this includes being a good example of how to be and how to live in God's love > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) If he is great, he is our example of how we also can become. Because God's love does the same in each of us, more and more as we grow in Jesus. James 1:2-3 > "My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:2-3) James is a great man in Jesus; yet, he calls us "My brethren". He is not trying to show he is so more than we are, then, but that we are his family in Jesus > "brethren". Even if James might have already been living the way this message says to live, he sees us as his family . . . equals who also can live God's way. All he says to do, in this message, is possible for any person to do, with God > "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God," Jesus Himself says, in Luke 18:27. And so, with this encouragement, what does James say? We can have joy in our troubles. Our Apostle Paul has said, "Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong." (2 Corinthians 12:10) So, I see that what James says is a match with what Paul says. And Jesus endured the cross with hope of the joy which was set before Jesus > Jesus "for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." (in Hebrews 12:2) And Jesus on the cross is our example, as Paul says and commands us all > "And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma." (Ephesians 5:2) So, we can see how James means for us to follow the example of Jesus and our Apostle Paul, by counting our troubles for Jesus to be for joy. And he says "the testing" of our "faith produces patience." Well, our Apostle Paul also says "we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance," (in Romans 5:3) and this I would say is a match, also, with what James says. So, God's love in us makes us strong with His almighty strength with joy while we go through things. So, this is not a self-willed, self-controlled thing. And this comes with forgiving, instead of giving in to how wrong people would effect us. Right while Jesus was on the cross, Jesus prayed, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (in Luke 23:34) And this Jesus did while seeing "the joy that was set before Him" (in Hebrews 12:2). So, I see how James can mean to learn how to love while we go through hard things, forgiving in prayer, caring for any problem person, like Jesus did on the cross, having hope for any evil person, at all > love "hopes all things" (in 1 Corinthians 13:7). As we get into loving all people unconditionally, following the example of Jesus, now we are sharing with Jesus and in His own joy, "and your joy no one will take from you." (in John 16:22) In this patience of God's joy, we have almighty keeping power to keep us in this joy, while keeping us loving any and all people, ready with generous forgiveness like Jesus on Calvary. In God's love and joy and peace, we have almighty power keeping us deeply safe, as Peter and John also indicate > "And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good?" (1 Peter 3:13) "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love." (1 John 4:18) So, Jesus and different New Testament writers He uses all say what matches and can help to feed us how to be and love. So, thank You, God, for blessing us with this, more and more as we grow in Jesus.
  13. Jesus says God is Spirit. It is like how gold can be material being, but in more than one form, and it can flow. God is love, and love is in more than one personal form > the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God is the Supreme Being of Family Caring and Sharing love, with more than one Person of this one love. God is not material being, but spiritual being of love. And He is personal and conscious, unlike material being. So, He can be in different personal forms and flowing - - - all love, all conscious, all personally caring and creative. "Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5) Therefore, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God's own love, I would conclude. And only God can be the spiritual being of His own love. And the Holy Spirit shares this love, right "in our hearts". So, this shows how personal God is. God is love, this personal with His children. And so, we can see from this how we need to be personal in our loving, not only trying to use and control people. And God's love is tenderly caring and sharing in His family way. And we can see how God's word tells us to also be loving in His family way > "Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32) God the Trinity is not only something to explain or say we can't explain. But God is our example > Ephesians 5:1-2. So, I would say believing in the Trinity includes following the example of how God is and how our Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit relate as Family. Their love in us has us growing in this.
  14. First, thank you so much for generously explaining what you understand. Well, let me check > King James > "without natural affection" > in Romans 1:31, and in 2 Timothy 3:3. New King James > appears to have "unloving" My Spanish Bible says > "sin afecto natural" < Reina-Valera 1960 The Douay-Rheims Catholic bible says > "without affection" Going by the Strong's Concordance Greek dictionary, to me it looks like the "affection" has to do with cherishing someone. So, not being affectionate would not be limited to perverted, unnatural sexual activity, I would say. So, I can see how "unloving" can work. But I have understood how "without natural affection" can mean, for an example, how a husband is not being tenderly caring with his wife . . . though they might be quite busy with physically natural behavior. So, actually, I like "without natural affection" better > not because it is meant to attack perversion, but because we need to be tenderly caring in our marital relating plus in our other sharing as family in Christ > like our Apostle Paul means > "tenderhearted", in Ephesians 4:31-32. But when we read God's word, we can be overly first concerned about how it must go for someone else who is not like us! But I am the one who needs to become a kind, personal, tenderly caring person in how I relate with various people . . . like how Paul and Silvanus and Timothy cared for the Thessalonians "just as a nursing mother cherishes her own children." (in 1 Thessalonians 2:7)
  15. I see it could have been totally washing someone by cupping his hands and pouring water all over someone . . . or he could have just dunked them, which might be more lazy and less personal.
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