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  1. Daily sacrifice taken away on day 1185. From that time to the AOD is 1290 as is shown in the scripture. On day 2475 the AOD is set up. (1185+1290). Then 45 days later Jesus returns and all eyes will see Him. It is a gathering, a rapture event just prior to the Day of the Lord. Matt 24 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 2 Thes 2 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Jesus is coming in Matt 24 and at the 6th seal, to GATHER His elect from heaven and earth. HE IS NOT COMING TO SET UP HIS KINGDOM. He will set up his Kingdom at His return in Rev 20. The Day of the Lord begins at his coming in Rev 6, the 6th seal. The seventh seal needs to be opened and all the trumpet judgements and bowls have to happen BEFORE Armageddon can occur. Your error is not understanding that the 70th week does not include the Wrath of God and which is inside the 1000 year Day of the Lord. Second error is not understanding that Jesus is coming in Matt 24 for the gathering that is prior to the day of the Lord. He is not coming to set up his kingdom. Armageddon does not occur until the end of the trumpets and bowls.
  2. No, I'm saying that no interpretation is necessary. The scripture speaks for itself. For example: John 11 35 Jesus wept. We don't need to interpret anything in this verse. Jesus wept means Jesus wept. No other explanation or interpretation is needed. IT IS FACT. The same applies here in Dan 12. There are 1290 for the time the daily sacrifice is taken away and the Abomination of Desolation. This is scriptural fact. We don't need any false conclusions here. The verses speak for themselves. As for your incorrect and unnecessary interpretation, you have no explanation what for what occurs on day 1290. You mere add 45 days to it and say Jesus returns on day 1335. You say it takes 45 days to assemble an army. You just pull this out of your hat. Show a scripture that proves this. I already know that there isn't. Dan 12 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Absolutely not. The daily sacrifice is taken away on day 1185. 1290 days later the AOD is set up. That is when those in the nation of Israel are to flee. Totally incorrect. The scripture clearly tells up what the 1290 days are. There are 45 days from the AOD being set up to the coming of Jesus for the gathering from heaven and earth. The 45 days are the great tribulation. Yes Matt 24 is the 6th seal event. However, the Wrath of God is going to begin with the opening of the 7th seal. This means that Jesus cannot be setting up His kingdom in Matt 24. He is coming for the gathering from heaven and earth. This is the great multitude that your see in Rev 7.
  3. I think the prophecy concerning the 2300 days in Daniel 8 has already occurred. It is about the second Temple and not the third. It has already been fulfilled.
  4. The verse speaks for itself. It does not need interpretation. Just like this verse Matt 14 25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. The verse speaks for itself. Now, you can choose not to accept what it says because it does not make sense to you that Jesus can walk on water, but that does not change the facts. Till what? Till the Abomination of Desolation is set up. There is no mystery here. The verse speaks for itself. The only real mystery is that you don't understand how it could be, because you incorrectly think that Matt 24 is when Jesus returns to set up his kingdom when the verses of Matt 24 clearly tell a different story. From the time the birthday party begins and the candles are blown out, there shall be 12 hours and 30 minutes. This speaks for itself. We don't have to come to any incorrect conclusions. Just read what it says. How can it not make sense? That's what the verses clearly say. It's your last days timeline that is not making sense. The scripture is perfectly clear. What leads you to this incorrect conclusion? The Temple is not made desolate UNTIL the Abomination of Desolation is set up. That occurs 1290 days after the daily sacrifice is taken away. The scripture says differently. Instead of using an ABSOLUTE CONCRETE POINT IN TIME to understand the end times timeline you have chosen to ignore this ABSOLUTE BIBLICAL FACT. It's because you don't understand that the WRATH OF GOD is not part of the TRIBULATION. The Tribulation is over before the 1000 year DAY OF THE LORD begins.
  5. You got it Douggg. You see it perfectly and yet you cannot accept what is written? Correct again. Why would you need to make sense out of what we know is fact. Rev 12 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. This is fact. This is an absolute reference point. You are rejecting absolute fact and truth because you are misunderstanding other scriptures. No, we are not faced with what to do with the 1290 days. We are already told what to do. The AOD occurs 1290 days after the daily sacrifice is taken away. This is fact. We are faced with understanding where we are wrong. You are changing the facts of the scriptures brother because you are not understanding where you are wrong. Why maintain this when the scripture tells us differently. Don't use error to change fact. Use fact to find your error. One of your errors is believing that Matt 24 is the return of Jesus Christ to destroy the armies of the earth and set up his kingdom. Matt 24 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. There is nothing in Matthew 24 that says anything about the armies of heaven coming to earth. Matt 24 is about the gathering from heaven and earth before the day of the Lord begins. Matt 24 is about a rapture. Another error you are making is not understanding that the 70th week of Daniel does not include God's wrath. You are trying to force everything into the 70th week of Daniel. This error is forcing you to change scriptural fact. That fact is the that the AOD occurs 1290 days after the daily sacrifice is taken away.
  6. Hi Douggg, I think the scripture says that you are incorrect. The daily sacrifice is taken away on day 1185. The abomination of desolation occurs 1290 days later. Dan 12 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
  7. Hi Joe, I'll try to clarify part B but I would probably have to write a complete book to explain it. Reason being is that are so many incorrect conclusions that have been drawn because of lack of knowledge of what occurs during the 70th week and what occurs during the Wrath of God. Everything that is going to occur regarding the end times will likely occur on a Jewish feast day. Many Biblical scholars think that the spring feasts have been fulfilled. However, I don't believe this is true because there has been no harvest. Pentecost is a harvest feast. I think the Church will be raptured on Pentecost. When that happens God will turn his attention toward the Jews. They will likely understand what has happened as there will be 144,000 spreading the truth across the world to the Jews that are across the earth. Jer 8 20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. There will be 144,000 first fruits, 12,000 from each tribe. First fruits are a guarantee of a harvest. If the first fruits were pumpkins, we know the harvest will be pumpkins. Since we know that the first fruits are 12,000 from each tribe, we know that the harvest will be the twelve tribes that are scattered across the earth. So we can conclude that the 12 tribes that are scattered across the earth will be raptured on the Feast of Trumpets, the time of the fall fruit harvest. This will occur just prior to the wrath of God. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. So for the Church, the goodman will not know when the thief will come. Matt 24 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. However, the twelve tribes will know exactly when Jesus is coming and the Day of the Lord will begin. 1 Thes 5 5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. So none of Gods people experience His wrath. The Church will be raptured pre trib. The 12 tribes that are scattered across the earth will be raptured pre wrath. Those in the nation of Israel that flee when the abomination of desolation is set up will go through Gods wrath in a place of safety.
  8. Sure Joe, I'll try to clarify. A- the abomination of desolation is at the end of the Tribulation not the mid point. Daniel 12 1 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. I take it that the 70th week of Daniel is 7 x 360 day = 2520 days 2520 days less 1335 day put the daily sacrifice being taken away at day 1185. Add 1290 days to day 1185 and you get day 2475 when the abomination of desolation occurs. The reason most don't understand this is because they don't understand that the coming of Jesus in Matt 24 is the gathering from heaven and earth. It is not when Jesus comes to set His foot on the Mount of Olives like most pre tribbers think. Part B when I get back.
  9. There will be a Door A for the Church, pre trib. There will also be a Door B for the Jews that are scattered across the earth that go through the Tribulation, a pre wrath rapture. FYI Contrary to popular opinion, the abomination of desolation is at the end of the Tribulation not the mid point. The nation of Israel goes through the wrath of God in a place of protection. The Church that will be raptured pre trib and the Jews that will be raptured pre wrath are at the marriage supper during the wrath of God.
  10. Your argument about Jesus saying YE referring to His Disciples quickly falls apart when you continue reading. Matt 24 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand Matt 24 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. No, absolutely not. Jesus answers their question. They want to know when there will not be one stone upon another and what will be the sign when this occurs. They did not ask Jesus about the 2000 years of time. They asked a direct question and Jesus answered the question. These events occur at the SIGN of His coming and the end of the age. Then the Wrath of God begins. These sorrows begin when the rider on the white goes forth conquering and to conquer. Then of course there is the red horse of war. This all occurs in the tribulation period. The church will be gone before these events occur. We were there in verse 2 and the verses that follow. Jesus is not talking to the Church, he is talking to the Jews. The Church will already be gone. The YE, is the Jews and not the disciples, as has already been shown. Jer 8 20 The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved. The Church is caught up in the summer harvest. The Jews will still be on earth. The 70th week is for the Jews, not the Church. The beginning of sorrows occurs during the Tribulation. The baby is the Wrath of God. There is a difference between the Gods wrath and the Tribulation period, though so few understand.
  11. We are not talking about the diaspora, we are talking about the buildings of the Temple Matt 24 24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. Did Jesus say, see ye not ALL these things or did He say, see ye not SOME of these things. You seem to be confusing Luke 21 with Matthew 24. Check the setting of each. See who Jesus is talking to in both these chapters. Jesus did answer the question about the buildings of the Temple. He said see ye not ALL these things. He said there would not be one stone upon another. The fact that we can see one stone upon another, of all those things, should be proof enough. Jesus is talking about the last days. To prove it further: Mark 13 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? In verse 4 Jesus is asked and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? So if you say these verses are fulfilled, what was the sign when all these things were fullilled. Jesus is talking about the buildings of the temple. We can also look at Luke 21 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said, 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? So again I ask, if these things are fulfilled (there is not one stone upon another) WHAT WAS THE SIGN WHEN THESE THINGS CAME TO PASS?
  12. Mark 13 13 And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here! 2 And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? Mark 13 can help clarify Matthew 24 Matt 24:1-6 has not occurred yet. There are still stones, one upon another. Matt 24:7-14 is not the Church age, it has not occurred yet. You are correct about verses 15-31 being the Tribulation period. All the verses are about the last days and the tribulation period. The disciples asked when these things shall be and what shall be the signs when all these things shall be fulfilled. Think about that. When shall these things be fulfilled and what shall be the signs of all these things being fulfilled. WHAT THINGS? When there shall not be one stone upon another at the Temple mount. There is no talk about 70 AD or the Church age. The answer they are seeking is when shall all these things be cast down and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled.
  13. You simply imagine what you think is going to happen and then change the meaning of words to make it appear possible. I wonder what your definition for "only" and "must" and "hereafter" are. And then do you change the meaning to fit the situation?
  14. I can't answer your question as I have no idea how long it is going to take for you to understand the meaning of MUST BE HEREAFTER. I can see you at the movie theater now. You grab your coke and popcorn and head into the movie only to be stopped by the ticket taker. "Sir, Sir, you MUST have a ticket to enter the movie". Of course you respond - You are inserting the word only. See that guy and his wife? I saw you take tickets from them. They fulfilled the must requirement. You seem to find a need to insert only to make this business operate. I wonder why?
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