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I may posted my testimony in the wrong section to the wrong person. I am new on here and do not know how this works at this time Sorry.

Agree!!

Speaking of NT writers. I understand your point. God formed Israel and it was and is the apple of his eye. Jesus told the woman at the well, “you know not what you worship, salvation is of the Jews.” But I understand your point well taken.

I think you and I are so far apart in our views that we do more harm then good to discuss them.I can come across sometimes as blunt even as Jesus, (read Matthew23) Paul or the prophets did. There teachers, preachers and prophets and all have their calling and personality. I don’t think their “tone” had anything to do with their spirituality. I think we come from two different backgrounds and experiences I am guessing. I a country plowboy raised in the mountains of Virginia. Was born and raised in a church my grandparents founded in the 1930’s. I left as a teenager and went into the hippie culture of drugs, sex and rocking roll. Lived a rough life for my first 23 years. Been shot at a total of 15 times on different occasions. Been cut and beat almost to death with rocks by two not once but twice. I should have been dead at least twenty times before I was saved at twenty-three. My background is old time mountain Pentecostals.our church of whiteboard, oak floor, benches and a huge altar and outside johns was more like the church of Acts. Common poor people who God used in ways beyond their ability or education. Our meeting ran often past midnight. It was normal for people to pray at the altar for hours. It was normal for our revivals to not run days but weeks and even months. A church that held packed a hundred maybe had people from Florida to California and everywhere in between come there. No air condition and windows open. Often huge crowds outside looking and listening. I was saved and born again in that environment. I was called to preach in that church and like most with no formal training or natural abilities. It was hard preaching like Jonathan Edwards, Charles Finley, George Whitfield, Leonard Ravenhill and David Wilkerson all in one. It caused great conviction unto salvation. Many ran to the altar weeping and broken or ran out the door. It was not a comfortable place for sinners to set and socialize. There was too much fire and power. There was no smoke, glass and mirrors or entertainment. Church often started on its own and ended on its own. Some of the preaching there I have never heard anything close in the last 30 years in a church, TV (if you had one) or any media. They were pretribulation far as end time events. I wasn’t. For the simple reason I searched the scriptures trying to prove the point of a secret quick out of here rapture and never found it in 40 years of study and thousands of hours of prayer. I would not doubt we would disagree on many things but the simplicity of the fundamental foundation of the gospel. I most likely will not change your views and you defiantly won’t mine. So blessing be upon you. Shalom in His Holy name. Sorry if this was somewhat a personal testimony. It was but only a small part. May it help someone who reads it.

Yep one of my favorite chapters which I have read and studied in English and Geek thousands of times..not sure what your point is?

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I must reply to your one answer and hope others will have some imput. I could not disagree more strongly with your statement, 3) Because Jewish tradition has nothing to do with eschatology.“ I hope that is a misprint? You are kidding right? Everything about the Bible has Jewish roots including what we now call “Christianity”? Just for starters to get back to the 7 feast of the LORD (YAHEW), they were giving by YAHEW Himself as HIS days, His appointed times, His patterns for Yeshua’s first and second coming as a Lamb then yet as King. He fulfilled the 4 Spring feast to not only the day but the hour? And you tell me YAHEW the Creator gave 7 feast days as patterns He called the “LORDS FEAST DAYS. Not Jew or gentile but HIS. You can do away with the LORDS days when it comes to future prophecy because you can’t fit them into your doctrine? Or GOD has rejected the Jewish nation forever. I mean this would take a book of all the Jewish customs that are positioning to endtime events.. for one the five wise and five foolish virgins? That is all a Jewish custom of a wedding pointing to the endtime church? That is one among hundreds of examples. Only thing I can figure in your answer you are either anti-Semitic or just plain stupid when it come to the Bible that is COMPLETELY Jewish? Even believers are spiritual Jews grafted into the natural vine. Mercy if this whole site is like this I need to delete it quick? Do you people agree with this heretic?

I am new to this site so not sure how it even works yet. I have been studying biblical prophecy for the past 40 years though and have settled even 40 years ago after being taught a pretrib rapture doctrine since 1956 as I became a man I put away childless thoughts and took the scriptures for what they said. I became a prewrath believer even before I had heard the phase or saw the book. There are a few question that I have wrestled with many years. I have talked to many Bible scholars across the globe. Some to big to mention and none of their answers were biblical enough for me but were opinions which I don’t regard to high, theirs or mine. 1. Does the wrath of GOD include the trumpet judgements with the 7 bowls of wrath and if so what scriptures prove that? 2. Why is not the 7th trumpet judgement not the rapture and the bowls the beginning of the 7th seal? (Trumpets not in included) 3. If the 7 feast of the LORD was given as a pattern of His first coming as in the Spring feast to the day and very hour as a the Lamb of GOD to fulfill Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Pentecost and to Jerusalem (Zec 9:9 as a King) riding on a colt. Why does it seem all prophecy teachers ignore the last 3 Spring Feast of Trumpets, (the day no man knows the day or hour) or the “10 days of awe) between that day and the Day of Atonement? Or the feast of Tabernacles which all take place in a 21-22 day period. Did GOD just forget about them? No. Then where do they fit into most people’s second coming on a Horse as King, Judge and Executor? 4. Is not the return of Yeshua a event that occurs over these 21-22 DAYS OF THE LORD in a coming in the air rapture and a 10 days of the wrath of GOD followed by a return As King on the DAY OF ATONEMENT? The feast of Tabernacles would start the 1,000 year of Tabernacling on earth with man? I don’t claim my perspective is 100% right but I see few mention or include it into their view of prophecy? 5. I personally believe in a second coming rapture before the 7 bowls of wrath. I do not believe they last months or years? I don’t see or think that the GOD who created the earth and what the eye can see would take year or months to pour out His wrath nor could the earth endure it for months or years. There will be no fight between him, Satan or the world but a slaughter just at his coming. The Creator does not lower Himself to battle with what he has created the devil included. That is left to Micheal who has always been the contender and restrainer against him for GODS people. 6. I do not believe the term “except those days be shortened” that Tribulation is shortened or his coming or the 7 years. Shortened means if it was extended beyond that man and Satan would destroy the earth and all mankind. When GOD says, 42, 1260, or 7 years he means it.

My opinion or yours is worthless. What does Jesus say about his return like a roadmap in Matt 24. Which is repeated by Peter, Joel, Paul..etc. what do you not understand about AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS? What do you not UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE LAST TRUMP? what don’t you understand at the FIRST RESURRECTION? Can there be anything after the last? Or anything before the first? Can there be anything before AFTER? You are entitled to your doctrine. It is popular and a deception. Time proves prophecy. Time is running out on your pretribulation rapture theory.

I am new to this site so not sure how it even works yet. I have been studying biblical prophecy for the past 40 years though and have settled even 40 years ago after being taught a pretrib rapture doctrine since 1956 as I became a man I put away childless thoughts and took the scriptures for what they said. I became a prewrath believer even before I had heard the phase or saw the book. There are a few question that I have wrestled with many years. I have talked to many Bible scholars across the globe. Some to big to mention and none of their answers were biblical enough for me but were opinions which I don’t regard to high, theirs or mine. 1. Does the wrath of GOD include the trumpet judgements with the 7 bowls of wrath and if so what scriptures prove that? 2. Why is not the 7th trumpet judgement not the rapture and the bowls the beginning of the 7th seal? (Trumpets not in included) 3. If the 7 feast of the LORD was given as a pattern of His first coming as in the Spring feast to the day and very hour as a the Lamb of GOD to fulfill Passover, Unleavened Bread, Firstfruits, Pentecost and to Jerusalem (Zec 9:9 as a King) riding on a colt. Why does it seem all prophecy teachers ignore the last 3 Spring Feast of Trumpets, (the day no man knows the day or hour) or the “10 days of awe) between that day and the Day of Atonement? Or the feast of Tabernacles which all take place in a 21-22 day period. Did GOD just forget about them? No. Then where do they fit into most people’s second coming on a Horse as King, Judge and Executor? 4. Where is your personal conclusion that a return at Armageddon is bogus? 5. Is not the return of Yeshua a event that occurs over these 21-22 DAYS OF THE LORD in a coming in the air rapture and a 10 days of the wrath of GOD followed by a return As King on the DAY OF ATONEMENT? The feast of Tabernacles would start the 1,000 year of Tabernacling on earth with man? I don’t claim my perspective is 100% right but I see few mention or include it into their view of prophecy? 5. I personally believe in a second coming rapture before the 7 bowls of wrath. I do not believe they last months or years? I don’t see or think that the GOD who created the earth and what the eye can see would take year or months to pour out His wrath nor could the earth endure it for months or years. There will be no fight between him, Satan or the world but a slaughter just at his coming. The Creator does not lower Himself to battle with what he has created the devil included. That is left to Micheal who has always been the contender and restrainer against him for GODS people. 6. I do not believe the term “except those days be shortened” that Tribulation is shortened or his coming or the 7 years. Shortened means if it was extended beyond that man and Satan would destroy the earth and all mankind. When GOD says, 42, 1260, or 7 years he means it.