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  1. You still have not answered my questions. Here it is again for you. So, According to you, Amos 9:14-15 is just a defunct promise of God, and Israel that reformed in 1948 is just a conspiracy to get us to think prophecy is being fulfilled by the U.N? So is Amos 9:14-15 speaking of the church then? Or Israel the nation?
  2. So, According to you, Amos 9:14-15 is just a defunct promise of God, and Israel that reformed in 1948 is just a conspiracy to get us to think prophecy is being fulfilled by the U.N?
  3. Cyber ink is better than the mimeographed copy that was posted on Scribd.
  4. Hi Daniel, Welcome to the site. Finally a preterist is here. My mom was a preterist in a sense, but not like most, she was still a dispensationalist and saw the beast and the false prophet as yet to come. I do not want to get into that right now, but will offer a critique of your writings... I did open the link and read all 10 pages of it, so no problems there. If I were to give you one word that would prove you're theory wrong of Early Rome and Late Rome, would you receive what I am saying? That one word is "before". In English this word has two meanings, One is to prescribe an order to events, such as: "Julius Caesar Ruled before Constantine". This is the way most preterists read into this verse. But there is also another meaning of "before" which is to say that someone is in sight of another. So for example: "the General appeared before the king." The thing is, In the Greek, there are two distinct words for these two definitions of before. One is Proago, which means preceding one prior to in time. (G4254) The other is Enopion Which means in the presence of, or in the sight of. (G1799) The Word that is used in Rev. 13:12 is not Proago, but Enopion, Which means that how this verse is read by most preterists, and even by most dispensationalists is wrong. They are not two consecutive beasts, but two simultaneous beasts That rule at the same time, one in the presence of the other. The verses that speak of the "first beast" Just point to the Order in which they were presented, not in the order they ruled in. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. (Rev. 13:12) Like I said, many have made this grammatical assumption, So Don't feel bad. This error is made by both the futurist and the Preterist. What this means for your theory is that dividing the Roman empire into the Late and early is not a viable option here. As for Daniel's statue, that is a whole different concept. Indeed the feet were of Iron mixed with clay, and your interpretation does work there in a sense. But to extend this prophecy to the beasts of Revelation is a mistake. In a sense we have had that Kingdom of Iron Mixed with clay up to this day, with the church and the state in union with one another, but this is not the Beast of Revelation 13, nor the false Prophet. They are yet to come. I Encourage you to explore this further.
  5. But yet Israel is a nation yet again Born in one day by the Vote of the U.N., who would have thunk… Just as the prophets of Old foretold us. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God. Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her: (Isa 66:8-10) And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God. (Amos 9:14-15) You gots some big holes in your "exegesis and inductive bible study"... It is neither exegetical nor very studious on your part. Sounds to me more like you are doing eisegesis as opposed to exegesis, And the fact that you have eliminated a third of prophecy out there as having relevance shows that your studies are incomplete. As I said, Lipstick on a pig... So is Amos 9:14-15 speaking of the church then? Or Israel the nation?
  6. This is replacement theology in a nutshell. This is EXACTLY what they believe. all you are doing is putting lipstick on a pig.
  7. The restoration of Israel is a completion of the fulness I am speaking of. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? (Romans 11:12) Right now the nation of Israel is the fig tree with leaves, but no fruit. Fruit is produced By the Spirit, as is sight, the ability to see. Natural Israel is distinct from the Israel of God which is the fulness of both Jew and Gentile in Christ Jesus. Replacement theology places the church in the place of Israel which I do not do, they are distinct at the present time. And there will come a unifying at a certain time, that all may walk in the fulness of Christ Jesus. Until Israel Mourn for Him whom they have pierced (Zech. 12:10) they will remain enemies of the Gospel. We as Christians are called to love our enemies.
  8. A specific number reaching the fulness of Christ? Possible, though not absolute. Numbers are a thing of man, God reduced the number of Gideon's men based on their quality, thus the focus on numbers is not the way God Works. In fact he punished David and the Israelites for quantifying the nation. Elijah complained he was alone, but God had a remnant of 7000 set aside, so it goes both ways. I will leave the Quantity to God, and do my part in fulfilling the Quality in myself, and encouraging others to do so as well. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (2 peter 3:9)
  9. Choir Loft. You are confusing the church, which is the body of Christ with the institutional churches which are buildings and institutions of man. Though I agree with your assessment of the apostacy of the churches of today, who are foisting their version of Ecumenical unity on their members to accept compromise, So too in the background there are a group of overcomers that are coming out of these ecumenical heresies, and are finding a deep relationship with Jesus Christ who has become their head, as opposed to some institutional church. I am not a Calvinist, nor am I anti-semetic. I am a Christian... One who follows Christ Jesus. But Neither am I wrapped up in the Hebrew roots heresies that many in the church are falling victim to today. Israel is still the enemy of the Gospel As per Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Yes they are Beloved for the Fathers' sake, But they are enemies until the blindness has been removed from their eyes (spiritual blindness) to follow them is to be led by the blind... Blind leading the blind. That is what a lot of Your Hebrew roots movements are doing. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (Romans 11:25) Do you see how their regaining their sight is tied into the fulness of the Gentiles? Instead of being a naysayer, why don't you embrace this as this is what will lead to the restoration of Israel. You do Love Israel don't you? This is how we can love them, and move to restore them, that eventually they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. (Zech 12:10) If what is said is true about Noahidism, Talmudic Judaism will persecute the church, Just as they persecuted Christ. Through that persecution and our willingness to give our Testimony (martyria), they will in turn have their eyes opened Just as Saul's eyes were opened on the road to Damascus because of the testimony of Stephen whose robes were placed at Saul's feet. 1967: You are confusing the FULNESS of the Gentiles with the TIMES of the gentiles (Luke 21:24, Rev. 11:2). You are also not aware that Gentiles still occupy Jerusalem, and in particular have control of the Holy Mount, so what happened in 1967 was incomplete. Rev. 11:2 speaks of this times of the gentiles equating with the temple mount specifically. The Fulness of the gentiles is an entirely different concept a Mystery being revealed here and now... Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: (Eph. 1:9-10) Now for the sake of argument, I have presented a counter argument to your accusation based on scripture, Having quoted dozens of verses to present my case. In Your accusation you quoted only one verse, which I explained to you is not what I am talking about in this post. You are mistaking the "times of the gentiles" (Luke 21:24, Rev. 11:2) with the fulness of the gentiles and the fulness of times (Eph. 1:10, Romans 11;25). Your false accusations are based off of this misunderstanding and I am owed an apology for your failure to comprehend, which I doubt I will get.
  10. Like it or not, that is what you are teaching is replacement theology. The following are the three possible options, Replacement theology, Covenant theology or dispensationalism. Answer: Replacement theology (also known as supersessionism) essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of replacement theology believe the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. Among the different views of the relationship between the church and Israel are the church has replaced Israel (replacement theology), the church is an expansion of Israel (covenant theology), or the church is completely different and distinct from Israel (dispensationalism/premillennialism). https://www.gotquestions.org/replacement-theology.html
  11. See My above comment. Satan is walking to and fro upon the earth he is not the angel of the bottomless pit, this is another character, likely Azazel, the leader of the Fallen angels. John clearly nullifies Satan as being the beast of rev. 17 in that he says he was,IS NOT NOW, and is to come. We have been dealing with Satan throughout the human history, But we have not had to deal with the other fallen angels since the time of Noah. The Nephillim are the offspring of the fallen angels, and their spirits (demons) we do have to deal with.
  12. Whoever the beast from the bottomless pit is, it is not Satan. There is a key that unlocks the bottomless pit (Rev. 9:1) the bottomless pit must be "opened" (Rev. 9:2) And there is an angel (fallen one) that presides over the Bottomless pit (Rev. 9:11). That beast kills the 2 witnesses (Rev. 11:7) and emerges out of the wilderness with the harlot atop him (Rev. 17:7-8) For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; (2 Peter 2:4) Hell in the above verse is tartaroo, or Tartarus, the deepest and lowest part of hell. Satan is going to and fro upon the earth (Job 1:7) Satan empowers the beast of rev. 13, The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit is not Satan. He was and is not now and is to come (Rev. 17:8) Satan will be chained in the bottomless pit for the millennial reign of Christ. (Rev. 20:1-3)
  13. https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/137190/israels-elections-going-according-zachariahs-prophecy-foreshadowing-messiah/ Two snippets from the Link: Mystics and end-of-day experts are predicting that elections on Tuesday will be a replay, resulting inconclusively with no coalition being formed. End-of-days experts and mystics have been predicting this outcome for months while noting that the dissolution of the government is a necessary precondition for the resurrection of the Davidic Dynasty. Also: Rabbi Yekutiel Fish, an expert in Jewish mysticism who blogs in Hebrew under the title ‘Sod Chashmal,’ told Breaking Israel News that the final redemption is very close indeed and that one clear sign that this is so will be when the second round of elections fail to result in the formation of a government. He based this on a section of the Talmud. Rabbi Fish explained that the term שער (gate) refers to government or leadership, as seen in a verse in Deuteronomy. In a recent blog, Rabbi Fish cited a commentary that explains the words שער (gate) as an acronym for שִׁלְטוֹן עֵרֶב רב (rule by the mixed multitude). Rabbi Fish explained the ‘gate’ referred to the government of Israel. Rabbi Fish also predicted that the second elections will be accompanied by war, a prediction that was also made by Netanyahu on Friday. Is Netanyahu the Restrainer??? If so we are looking at the removal of this restrainer??
  14. There are a lot of people who do not want this message to get out, so they will do anything to distract you from this. You have seen it here on this page by the opposition that this has faced. This is why I am bringing this to the forefront again on this post. You must fill the new wineskin with Christ Jesus, we cannot put old Wine in a new wineskin or New wine in an old wineskin. This is the final step for the church to take, that is not based on the winds of Doctrine, but entails making Jesus your all in all. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24
  15. I've responded as a reply to you, but my words are not aimed at you per se...... Do you have a lawyer? Have you sought counsel of him in his office? When you sat there did you notice his bookcases full of books? A good lawyer consuls many books and many variations of the law so as to arrive at a positive outcome for his client. Likewise a sincere student of the Bible will not rest upon one single version alone, but consult very many. In this is the wisdom of a student. We have Christ Jesus as our advocate, He gives us the Spirit of Truth, and he is the faithful and true witness. He is the True Author of those books, and He tells us the accurate translation of them. If the Spirit is not guiding you in your teaching you replace Him with multiple Scholars and men to teach you, and you lead yourself into error, by bringing in forgeries such as Sinaiticus, and heresies such as Gnosticism from the Alexandrian texts. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Cor. 2:12-14)
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