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Do you think the wisdom behind this passage is simply dont chatter chatter through the church service. I think you might be on to a winner there. Seems to fit well.

Wow I didnt expect so many responses. Thankyou all for sharing your thoughts on this one. There seems to be a little variety in peoples view of this scripture as was to be expected. I think I agree it is probably to be viewed in light of it's time and place. I dont think my Spirit agrees it's righteous to silence women in gatherings of disciples in the current time. For them not to be meddlesome and go on and on I think is applicable today as it was then. The same could be said for men too but I dont think that seems to be a biological tendency like it is for women. Thanks for your help people.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 (NIV) 34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. what do you think this scripture intends to communicate to us?

That's an interesting idea. How do they balance it with the bits where people are in hell though? I've never heard this idea before.

I'd take you more seriously if you observed any of the instructions given. Theres nothing stopping you from observing a lot of the instructions but you still dont. I have pointed you in the right direction, my work here is done. Thanks for the conversation and your time.

You claim that we should follow ALL of the instructions in the torah. BUT you dont follow the instructions of the Torah because.... they're not currently relevant. Just to clarify that is your position right? I'm presuming you dont do any of the sacrifices or offerings either?

So you dont actually follow the instructions given in the Torah. I dont either. I have also found the rest of the bible points out they are no longer necessary and have been replaced. Even obsolete. I'm pleased you dont actually follow the instructions of the Torah. You should defo listen to what Jesus has to say and take your instructions from him as a Christian.

Yeah it sais loads of times in the new testament we dont have to follow the torah anymore. Its obsolete. It's been replaced. Jesus is the new high priest and his new covenant replaces the old one. I was just wondering if this chap is actually living as a jew like he claims or if hes just saying you should.

So you observe all the ritual washings and dietary instructions? And you observe all of the feasts obviously?

You focus and follow ALL of the instructions in the Torah?

Yeah I agree the NIV the gender neutral language is probably its biggest flaw to be fair. But like I said it's got to be used correctly. You cant take any of them at face value you have to look into their nuances and study with them in mind. I use a site called blue letter bible . Org if I'm not using my physical NIV. You can flip between the different versions, view the actual greek and aramaic alongside the English and till give you word definitions from the major references e.g strongs etc. You can even hear the original words if you click the right buttons. For all its flaws I still rate NIV above KJV

KJV is reasonably good translation. NIV is better though. Not much in it if you're using them right though to be fair

So non Christian rituals are superstitious. So are Christian and jewish rituals superstitious aswell then? What makes them different?

Yeah I'm not sure what to make of the whole thing. If superstitious includes the belief in the supernatural then I'm pretty sure Christian belief in lots of things would make us superstitious. If theres something that makes Christian belief in demons and Angel's and other supernatural things different somehow , which it might be , I dont know then maybe not. I always think of things like things people do because they think they're lucky etc as superstitious but never thought much of it. Witchcraft kinda things I would have thought fall within the realm of superstition which is obviously a big no no. Maybe it depends on where you draw the line and whose definition of things you go by. I dont think I have a fully formed conviction or understanding on this one.

Cheers. Clear as mud to me lol. I'm not superstitious as far as I know anyway so it doesnt make much odds to me.