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The Hebrew Olive tree is in Romans 11:17-23 -Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; (This is where Paul is referring to the Jews as the Olive tree) Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. The early church saw themselves as Spiritual Jews (not Hebrews) from these verses - Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: (Jews who say they are Jews and are not - Rev. 3:9). Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

No they speak for a portion of them. But the Jewish leadership uses the Babylonian Talmud which supports the belief and is loaded with anti-Gentile references, which gives them permission to lie to Gentiles, kill them etc. This is why they think that are justified in being so brutal to the Palestinians. If you want to contradict this, then please do your own research first.

Did you take the time to read my post?

It was in a video of interviews with orthodox Jews in Israel. I heard several of them say that. I am trying to find the original video. When I get it I will post the link.

I agree, but the Jews believe that they will one day rule the world with their messiah, this is one reason why they will be sitting ducks for the antichrist who will encourage them in their fantasy until it no longer suits his purposes.

The context of the two chapters leading up to the nation in one day verse in Isaiah is about the Gentiles coming to Jesus and they receive a new name which most scholars see as 'Christians." While the church is not addressed specifically in the Old Testament it is there symbolically in my opinion. The two chapters in Ezekiel are about Israel, their return to the Holy land after the captivity, the messiah and Pentecost in Ezekiel 37, which is about the birth of the church. As I said, the church isn't mentioned specifically, but it's there symbolically. According to the Apostle Paul, a Jew is not a Jew unless the are circumcised in heart through the Messiah. That would be a Jew who says they are a Jew and are not. They are mentioned as the enemies of Smyrna and Philadelphia, the only two spiritual conditions that receive no correction from the Lord. Prophetically Smyrna and Philadelphia are not just literal churches but they represent all the believers through all the ages that have the same spirit of devotion to the Lord that gains Philadelphia protection from the "hour," the tribulation in the latter days.

I agree. But the many Jews believe that they will rule the world with their messiah and it is not Jesus.

One of the Rothschilds said, "Control a nations money and I care not who writes the laws." I am an author, I do research. The banks control the money and they control the world, some of them happen to be Rothschilds. Because the Jews have misinterpreted many Old Testament scriptures many of them believe that someday they will rule the world with their messiah and the Gentiles will be their servants. I have heard some say this myself. So they will be candidates for deception when the antichrist arrives and trades on their fantasy.

We will have to agree to disagree on that one, too. The context in which the verse in question, coupled with the previous chapters supports the verse as pertaining to Pentecost. Did you read the article I sent? The previous verse to Isaiah 66:8 is about the Messiah. The big deal about bringing the Jews back to the land after the Babylonian captivity was that the Messiah would come when the temple was rebuilt which He did. Pentecost quickly followed Jesus' resurrection. Ezekiel 36 and 37 deal with the Messiah and the New Covenant being given at that time. The valley of dry bones is also about the outpouring of the Holy Spirit reviving Israel after David their prince, a similitude of Jesus comes. The Gentiles have been grafted into the Hebrew olive tree and the early church saw themselves as Jews. They don't replace Israel, they are unified with her. As Jesus said there would be one fold and one shepherd. The Jews who say they are Jews and are not mentioned in Revelation are the unbelieving Jews who can be grafted in when they eventually come to faith in Messiah Jesus.

The prophecies where God says He calls Israel to the land are in reference to their return from the Babylonian captivity and after their second captivity, the tribulation in Zechariah 14. In both those instances God established a religious nation. When Israel became a nation in 1948 it was a secular nation. Before Israel was a nation Palestine was inhabited by Arabs with a very small population of Jews, about 3%. The Arabs had lived there for hundreds of years and they all lived together in peace. Then one of the Rothschilds from the banking family who are globalists started buying up land there and started businesses. He began importing Jews from Europe to run them. So many of them came they were running out of housing and when the Arabs refused to sell, the Jews formed terrorist groups and began to drive them out. Then another Rothschild was approached to make Israel a homeland for the Jewish people, which was beneficial to the Rothschild family because they had so many business interests there and he was instrumental in making Israel a nation. God permitted it to fulfill prophecy and be the sign that we are in the last days. The Rothschilds are one of the families that are behind the movement toward a one world government beast system. That's how and why Israel became a nation.

Pentecost is prophesied in Isaiah 66:8 - cafelogos.org/nation.html

I never smoked or drank even before I was a Christian, so I never had to battle those addictions, just the usual lusts of the flesh. I always think of Jesus sweating great drops of blood begging the Father to release Him from what He didn't want to do. Likewise we have to sweat the same blood to keep from doing what we want to do.

In the Old Testament there are lots of scriptures showing the Gentiles coming to the Messiah who are His church. The church is people.

The thesis I did on the Trinity for my doctorate (which I found out I didn't need after all) was approved by a Trinitarian PHD and a Master of Divinity. The Jesus I teach is the one that is taught in the scriptures and from the scriptures. Your statement that Jesus cannot be God at all if He did not exist from all eternity is not based on scripture and by itself is illogical. Jesus and the Father are the same Spirit and Jesus always existed within the Father, but as the early councils confirmed He was brought forth from the Father at a distinct point in infinity - "This day I have begotten you." Again, if Jesus' soul/person did not have a beginning then we do not have a Father and Son, but two coequal gods and that is polytheism the concept we have to avoid. You need to understand that the principles regarding the human soul and spirit also apply to the Father and Son as the words in the original languages are used to describe them both.

The reference in Ezekiel is referring to God restoring them to the land after the Babylonian captivity. Israel is in her land prior to the second captivity but this is man's engineering which God permitted for His purposes. As you said, Israel will come to faith after the second captivity when Jesus returns and "They will look upon Me whom they have pierced." Zechariah 12:10.