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Petri, It truly is a delight to meet someone who is filled with the Holy Spirit of God. May God pour out blessings upon you in abundance! AMEN! Your Sister in Christ, Anne

We need to be very observant in all these things. Do the Christian people who come to post on Christian message boards realize that it is not a game? Or do they respond to trolls many times as devils casting out devils? Can we expect anything more from them that sit on the sidelines, when they see us verbally wounding the injured, whose spiritual wounds we refuse to dress, even after we make the injuries ourselves? Can we really blame them for not wanting to get involved in the EXTERNAL battle that we have not yet won INTERNALLY? That

It is also time that we all become honest with ourselves. Look back on this list and you will discover that the list does not describe the Church of Yeshua, but the LACK OF ONE.

Disagree. Some parts of Christianity may be confused. But overall this is not the case at all. If Yeshua's doctrine is the only one that is true, and we all agree that it is, how can all the other ones not be confusion? True. But what makes you believe that I am out to deceive you? What gave you the idea that I believe you are out to deceive me? Not true. I would only deceive you if I were in error, or if I have some ulterior motive. If I am well grounded in Biblical truth, and allow the Spirit to teach me proper doctrine, then I do not have to worry about deceiving you. What is the plumb line that tells you that you are not in error? I'm not saying that you are in error about all things, all of us are in error about some things. Don't you know that the tares will be harvested first, and burned? Don't you understand that if you have been deceived by someone who was already deceived, you would have been made twofold the child of hell thay they were? Don't you know that judgement begins in the pulpit? If you were in error and didn't know it, wouldn't you still make me twofold the child of hell that you were, if I listened to you? Again, if you are deceived in the first place, it is unlikely that you would be actively monitoring yourself from deceiving others. Do you monitor yourself daily? I do. Correct. 4&5 Suzanne cought my error "first responsibility". Which puts in agreement. Not true. Mistaken assumption. Our example in Paul suggests to us that we should actively point out, and condemn heresy and deception; in other words, call it as we see it. Furthermore, it is our responsibility to discern the spirits, and cast out the false ones from the church. Pointing out deception is not in any way equal to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Paul was talking about condemning heresy and deception against Yeshua's Church, which is rempant in this generation. He was not referring to heresies against religion in general, which are also running rampant. Therefore, it is not my responsibility to condemn you as deceived already. Because we should all work together to to varify Yeshua's doctrine, even if varifying his doctrine means throwing out things that we have believed for centuries. And we can not do that through any denomination. We have to do that through the scriptures, one verse at a time whether we like it or not. Disagree. It is your responsibility to continue in the fellowship and teaching of the apostles (Acts 2:42; 1 Tim. 4:6; 2 Tim. 3:10). The message of the Gospel has been static from the day of the Lord

Calamity and Gary and Kevin and Wayne, I have tried to explain again and again my stand on this issue. But all of you close your ears because you have your own predetermined stand. The bible says that as a man thinks so is he. Your toughts are you as an individual. My thoughts are me as an individual. In the same manner, the ways of God are God. God's thoughts are God. Yeshua was the son of man, a man. And the only verse of scripture that I can find where God said who Yeshua was, God called Yeshua his son. God filled Yeshua's heart and mind with God's word. YESHUA'S THOUGHTS IS WHO YESHUA IS as an individual. A man who is filled with the thoughts of God to such an extent that he EMBODIES that word IS diety. Yeshua had the mind of God because God gave Yeshua his own thoughts. Yeshua gave us the mind that was in him, if we are willing to receive it, the mind of God. Therefore, if we say that Yeshua was God, then we have to say that we are God too, because we have the same thoughts within us as he had within him. At least, those of us who have really listened to him do. Yeshua did not think it robbery to be equal with God, because it was from God that the word came to Yeshua. I do not think it robbery to be equal to Yeshua because Yeshua said that "it is enough for the student to be AS his Master. If I call Yeshua God, how can I be made equal to Yeshua and NOT CALL MYSELF GOD? Now! If I have not sinned against you, why do you slap me with your words?

Where did I say that. But it IS supposed to be ONE BODY, ONE MIND shared by the many, and that the mind of CHRIST. My apologies. Miscommunication. Forgot to proofread. Yes, but since we are dealing qwith human beings, if we think that a wolf has slipped into the sheepfold, we are supposed to 1)confront him in private first 2)take a witness with us to confront him 3)take him before the whole Church. We are not supposed to take him before the whole church on the first step. these are the steps for protecting others.

Examine the scriptures to prove what was said whether or not you think that you are being deceived. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, you know.

Correction in blue Where Christianity is concerned; 1. The overall body of so-called Christianity is very confused. 2. It is my first responsibility to make sure that you do not deceive me. It is your firstresponsibility to make sure that you do not deceive me. 3. It is my firstresponsibility to make sure that I do not deceive you. It is your firstresponsibility to make sure that I do not deceive you 4. It is not my firstresponsibility to make sure that others do not deceive you. That is the firstresponsibility of others. And it is your firstresponsibility to make sure that others do not deceive you. 5. It is not your firstresponsibility to make sure that others do not deceive me. That is the firstresponsibility of others. And it is my firstresponsibility to make sure that others do not deceive me. 6. It is not my responsibility to condemn you as deceived. You might be filled with the Holy Spirit, and me not aware of the fact. In which case I would have blasphemed the Holy Ghost. It is not your responsibility to condemn me as deceived. I might be filled with the Holy Spirit, and you not aware of the fact. In which case you would have blasphemed the Holy Ghost. 7. It is my firstresponsibility to deliver the gospel according only to what the Holy Spirit has taught me. It is your firstresponsibility to deliver the gospel according only to what the Holy Spirit has taught you. 8. If every member of the body will be determined to take up his own responsibilities, and leave the responsibilities of everyone else to them, the body can be free to grow in leaps and bounds. Island Rose said; Amen. And we are not supposed to accept just anything taught from the pulpit wither, by try the spirit of those speakers also. Jesusisgod2 Thank you, Jesusisgod2. This is what I was looking for. We are to varify by the scriptures and not by man's theologies.

Hello Rick Thid is the very reason that Yeshua told Nicodemus that he must be born again. Micodemus has allowed other doctrines to "dilute" the truth of God. He had been BORN to the doctrines that the Herodians were defiling the temple with. Therefore, he must be born again, unlearning the doctrines of the Herodians and relearning the doctrines in the scriptures. Amen! I discovered this truth when I realized that there were so many Christians wthat would say, "I can't understand this verse." If they had not been deceived that they were saved, they would have understrood by the time a few weeks had gone by.

Hello All, I'd like to know whether you all agree with the following please. Where Christianity is concerned; 1. The overall body of so-called Christianity is very confused. 2. It is my responsibility to make sure that you do not deceive me. It is your responsibility to make sure that you do not deceive me. 3. It is my responsibility to make sure that I do not deceive you. It is your responsibility to make sure that I do not deceive you 4. It is not my responsibility to make sure that others do not deceive you. That is the responsibility of others. And it is your responsibility to make sure that others do not deceive you. 5. It is not your responsibility to make sure that others do not deceive me. That is the responsibility of others. And it is my responsibility to make sure that others do not deceive me. 6. It is not my responsibility to condemn you as deceived. You might be filled with the Holy Spirit, and me not aware of the fact. In which case I would have blasphemed the Holy Ghost. It is not your responsibility to condemn me as deceived. I might be filled with the Holy Spirit, and you not aware of the fact. In which case you would have blasphemed the Holy Ghost. 7. It is my responsibility to deliver the gospel according only to what the Holy Spirit has taught me. It is your responsibility to deliver the gospel according only to what the Holy Spirit has taught you. 8. If every member of the body will be determined to take up his own responsibilities, and leave the responsibilities of everyone else to them, the body can be free to grow in leaps and bounds.

If you will all read all the posts in this thread you can discover that each of you have spoken in agreement with your denominations, while I have spoken in agreement with the scriptures. Again, the title of this thread is WORDS SHOW FORTH THE SPIRIT OF THE MAN (the man who speaks the words.)

Hello George, The arms of the Lord are also those who are obedient to do his bidding.

-Sorry FEW--BUT you are in ERROR---your understanding of scripture{which you say is"first-hand"} -uhhh??? you "learned" from WHO??first-hand?? SInce you seem to state you received from NO- -MAN--what you've "learned" just EXACTLY from whom did you receive all your interpretations???? -{GOD creates??}whatsoever we ASK BELIEVING???mmmmmm--hmmmmm--o.k. splain that teaching -plee-zeee??The only one-person that states HE learned his understanding of the scriptures{from -a first-hand source} was -Paul,who states HE spent several years learning from GOD Himself-- -GAL.1.vss.6.thru.24-But what Paul did was UNlearn the jewish LAW or rather learned the "true -meaning"of the law & -that it all "pointed"to JESUS...Then he went to jerusalem to see Peter & -James the LORDS Brother..But he states clearly that IF any comes preaching ANY-OTHER gospel -than what Paul has preached-"taught" let them be accursed--GAL.1---SO the clear intention of -these scriptures is that WE are -to LEARN from the scriptures that are taught by GOD-called-GOD- -sent-MEN of GOD.WE are to"learn"-from men{qualified by GOD}& from the HOLY-SPIRIT who will -guide us into all truth-- so for you to -state you learned{what you know--about the scriptures}- -from a {first-hand-source??}- is just a mite scary-"unless of course your name is -Paul & YOU -were -caught up to the -third heaven"...2nd.cor.12.---- -SCARY--in that your explanations of scripture are entirely "different" than accepted" & clearly -understood by scripture interpretating or explaining scripture.. First hand - taught the scripture by the Holy Spirit Second hand - taught by man from scripture.

God-man, After reading over all the posts here again, I've come to the conclusion that you believe one thing, and I believe another, and neither of us will ever convince the other via postings. So, for the body's sake, I ask that we discontinue this particular discussion. My belief is first hand belief. By that I mean that I have sat under no man's doctrine. Would you mind telling me, is your belief first hand? or second hand under the minitry of another man?