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  1. I don't see this happening in the USA as long as so many of us are personally armed... Here in the US we have a very large army of about 75 million armed conservatives that has around 3 trillion rounds of amo and most of us have taken an oath to defend our constitution.... all the ones I am personally familiar with have not relinquished that oath even though it was made 50 or more years ago... Just one more reason that a general population should be armed to protect our families because the government can't be everywhere at once. The religious base that teaches people to do these things is presently growing within our country and will be a threat in the future if not controlled.
  2. Don't be nervous about it just be totally sold out to Jesus and nothing on this earth is going to hurt you spiritually or change where you will spend eternity if you have turned your future over to the Lord. When you confess that Jesus is Lord, no part of the dark side has any authority over you at all and never will.
  3. then join the Nike saying and Just Do It...
  4. actually he does not have the authority to do that... he's just trying to get people to pay more attention to him... don't consider it harmful to you at all as you belong to Jesus. I would recommend dropping his music though. It's not spiritually healthy to hang out with that kind of trash.
  5. I think the people of Venezuela would agree with you...
  6. just for thoughts: Ex 24:9-11 Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink. KJV John 6:44-46 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Moses and friends saw the God of Israel and were not harmed. Jesus says that no man has seen the father except He that came from Him. So it seems to me that the Father that Jesus speaks of is not what that the Nation of Israel interfaced with in the Old Testament. Looking further: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John 1:1-10 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. KJV John 8:52-58 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It seems to me to be saying that Jesus was what the Nation of Israel interfaced with in the Old Testament days. Jesus in this form was with the Father from the beginning. It seems to me that the people of the Old Testament days were not aware of the Father except for what they saw through the Jesus in the form he existed in before he became flesh. Further: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Phil 2:5-11Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It appears to me that Jesus as the word was that which the Father worked through to manifest Himself to the people of the Old Testament times. Jesus did not regard himself to want to be the equal to the Father so He took the form of a human to further the works of the Father on earth. Jesus was deity by being in the form of God, but it was the Father that did the work through Him when he was the Word. It appears that the only thing that has changed is Jesus is now flesh working the same way only as a man. The Father exercises His will through Jesus, now in the fleshly body. `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John 14:10-11 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. KJV John 17:20-26 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It seems to me that Jesus just extended the conduit from Him to us for the Father to do His work through Jesus to us so we could know the Father as the Father knows us. Thus we now can do the work of the Father. I believe this is the path and workings of the Holy Spirit ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` 1 Cor 15:20-28 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jesus, before His ascension told the Apostles that all power and authority had been given to Him. After he has subdued everything Jesus will also be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him........ The Father. I don't see the Son always being equal with the Father, either when He was the word nor in the flesh. He will also be subject to the Father after He does the job of bringing the kingdom into it's full power over all and giving it to the Father. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1 Cor 8:4-6 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. KJV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But to us, there is but one God, The Father of whom all things came from...... And one Lord, Jesus whom we call the Christ, through which all things came including us. And we have the Holy Spirit which was sent to us from the Father at the request of Jesus. Interestingly, all three are one in thought, one in purpose, and one in action. We can't interface with the Father without being indwelt by the Holy Spirit, and we can't have the Holy Spirit without the sacrifice and request of Jesus, and we couldn't have had Jesus without the Father asking Him to do what he has done for us. You have to have all three or none. And thus they are one.
  7. why would they take a ship that is supposedly smuggling oil out of Iran.
  8. I understand your feelings, however I don't think you can put this on the whole human race. You may not have people helping others where you live, but here in the USA we do help people a lot. We also give a lot to third world countries that the local governments do not pass on to the people it is intended to help. Those cruise ships you so downgrade to much have shore excursions that help the working people of that area and many more people would be hungry if they were not there. No one said that this world was equal or even fair. We have our own spiritual things to learn and get over no matter what our situation in life is. I would hope that you would not judge the whole world by your local situation..... the people I am around give and give a lot to help others. My country gives billions of dollars to other countries to help them... and in reality we borrow the money to do so...
  9. I think we are changing the meaning of the word Racist from it's original meaning. What the president wrote and has since not changed his mind was not about what race people were, but their policy beliefs.... By throwing the Race card into the disagreement just because they are not of the Caucasian makeup is going to further divide the country. Using race to get your way in politics will eventually tear our country apart and should not be tolerated. The president is much smarter than people give him credit for and you can bet that this whole thing is a distraction from the things going on in the background to keep those things from being prominent in the news cycle. Donald John Trump is not a racist. I will join LadyKay in not wanting to debate the subject, but did want to express my personal thoughts about what is going on. And what's going on in the world today is seldom as it seems on the surface.
  10. I don't remember anything in the Bible that tells us to live that way... I don't think I would ever do so willingly.
  11. I was not familiar with the song so I looked it up..... I don't see how just listening to it would send you to hell, but I can't for the life of me understand why you would want to listen to it 100 times. I watched the official video and it is rather disgusting. If you were high on something it might cause you to hurt yourself and if you die you might go to hell, and it does have that in the theme.
  12. I don't think I would agree to that if she was not 18.... if she's 19 at our house the kids were allowed to make their own decisions. But I certainly would not like it and would tell them so. My wife and I did stay weekends in my apartment without sex off and on for several months before we got married, but two sets of our friends got pregnant during that same time period and had to get married..... we are all still married after 49 years so that's that.....
  13. when we go on a travel we may be gone for 5 or 6 weeks and just have a general idea where we want to go.... I do take AAA paper maps in case something happens to the GPS. We also update the GPS maps before we leave. The biggest problem we have had over the years is that sometimes when you are looking for something it will take you to their corporate offices or a warehouse where they store things.... but that's usually an interesting drive anyway. I have learned to always check the total trip roads the GPS has chosen for we really try and avoid interstate roads unless we are in the Winnebago or Western Kansas; on the back roads you have to worry about bridge clearances...
  14. You can talk circles around anything, but the way it is presented in the OT when the ten commandments is that we are to do "NO" work.... no qualifiers, just no work.... can't even kindle a fire if you are cold which we do every time we start a car.... either you believe what the Bible says or you don't, but really don't try and manipulate things to put people back under the law. Moses said no work period.... and Jesus said that's not the way he wants it done... and he is the Lord of the sabbath....
  15. that is something you decided for your theory..... Bible says very plainly "NO" work. Jesus changed things for us and lead by example. Can't kindle any fire..... do you start your car..... you should be stoned if you do by OT teachings.
  16. all they have to do is vote no on raising the debt limit... automatic balance the budget....
  17. well you haven't developed your thoughts by listening to reality. Personally most of my views on the subject comes from FBI and other government documents... I don't accept much of anything I see from any main stream media, including Fox News without checking it out myself. I do have some anonymous anon acquaintances which gives me some input that you really can't get from anywhere else.... and that also has to be checked out. And I walked for about ten years with the dark side learning a lot of the spiritual inputs to global elite. So, I have a fairly good cross view of the things going on outside of the media.... CNN that is seen here in the US does not have real journalists, and the people of Fox News in prime time don't call themselves reporters, they are opinion people and will tell you that up front. You should watch them a bit closer.... But Fox does have some progressives on air such as Shepard Smith... Best real news is Aljazeera.
  18. did he work on the Sabbath or did he lie about it.... he did work and the 4th commandment says there is no work to be done.... so take your pick, he worked or he lied or he changed the rules for us and set the example for us to follow.
  19. I don't think they even have the votes in the House to impeach much less the Senate to remove him from office. Actually if Jerome Corsi was being truthful when the Trump Train was started, the military would not let him be removed from office.
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    you may not want to leave him, but you would be rather foolish to marry him in his current state.... what he needs is a professional Christian Councilor if he truly wants to get away from that kind of addiction. You are setting yourself up for a lifetime of sorrow.
  21. neither are we and that's why the $1,800 was so important to us.
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