His Ambassador

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.’ You don't see what that verse says? Yes, the tree of life is in paradise, which is the New Jerusalem, which is heaven, which comes down to earth one day. God wants to live with us on the home He made for us in the first place. Yes, it says the tree of life is in God's Paradise but it does not say where Paradise is.

Perhaps you should read this portion of Scripture carefully and believe that the Bible does say that Paradise is in the New Jerusalem (Rev 2:7; 21:1-22:14, with only revelant verses quoted below): 7He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God... [PLEASE NOTE THE LOCATION OF THE TREE OF LIFE] 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God... 6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son... 9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;... 22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads... 10And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city... 25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. So what we have above is the holy city New Jerusalem and within that city we have (1) the throne of God, (2) the throne of the Lamb, (3) the Paradise of God, (4) the tree of life, (5) the river of the water of life, (6) the street of the city and (7) those written in the Lamb's Book of Life. If the tree of life is in the midst of the Paradise of God, and it is also within the New Jerusalem, where then is Paradise other than in the New Jerusalem? And for you to claim that we don't know where Heaven or Hell is indicates one of two things (a) you have not read the Scriptures or (b) you do not believe the Word of God. So how do you claim to be "His Ambassador" when you are not sure where God's throne is located? I don't know who's teaching you but none of those verses say Paradise is in the New Jerusalem. God's throne is located in Heaven. Paradise and Heaven are NOT the same place. Are you getting so desperate to prove your point that you have to resort to personal insults?

Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.’ You don't see what that verse says? It does not say Paradise is in the New Jerusalem. Apparently you are attempting to read into that verse something it does not say.

We don't know where Paradise or Heaven or Hell is. But the Bible does not say Paradise is in the New Jerusalem.

Correct. On the contrary, Paradise is in the New Jerusalem, and will be there for eternity. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. (Rev 2:7). And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1,2). So now we have to wonder why Christians are missing (or skipping) these key verses? The tree of life was in the Paradise of God before the Fall. Now Paradise is in Heaven. We either accept these things by faith, or we stumble around not knowing what to believe. We do not spiritualize the tree of life either. There is no Scriptural support for saying Paradise is in the New Jerusalem.

One of us is not hearing from Jesus. He began allowing me to hear from him in words in the 80s and I have been very careful to not misquote Him ever since. I place no limitations on our Lord. There are not any Bible verses or implications that say Paradise is no more.

The saints Jesus took out of Paradise were those who were in there at that time. They are the ones who are in Heaven around the throne of God. Saints who have died since then go to Paradise. Jesus in in Paradise as well as in Heaven and wherever else He has to be to prepare our eternal home. Try talking to Jesus about what is going on and don't limit God because certain information is not contained in the Bible. Jesus will talk to you if you believe He will and keep you mind open.

Well, what born again Christian doesn't love God's word???? The truth is that WE NEED Scripture to confirm what God says. What I am seeing is people who like to put what their flesh speaks ahead of what God speaks. The Greek word for "new" in Revelation 21:1 and verse 5 as well, is "kainos", and not "neos", and it means "new", with the connotation of refreshment, or renewal. "Just as our bodies die, and return to dust, they will be raised as new bodies that nevertheless have continuity with our former selves, likewise the earth is fallen and will be destroyed, but it will be destroyed in order to be renewed. The restoration of the earth is directly analogous with the resurrection of the redeemed in Christ. Just as we have to die before we are resurrected, the earth must be destroyed before it is renewed. It is not an ‘ultimate’ or final destruction; it is a destruction that clears the way for its re-creation. Author and former pastor Randy Alcorn writes: “God has never given up on his original creation. Yet somehow we’ve managed to overlook an entire biblical vocabulary that makes this point clear. Redeem. Restore. Recover. Return. Renew. Resurrect. Each of these biblical words begins with the re- prefix, suggesting a return to an original condition that was ruined or lost. God always sees us in light of what He intended us to be, and He always seeks to restore us to that design. Likewise, He sees the earth in terms of what he intended it to be, and he seeks to restore it to its original design.” http://creation.com/new-earth As for seeing the face of God, your opinion is based on a poor understabnding of the scriptures. If we saw God while we are in the flesh, we would surely disintegrate in the power of His glory. However, when we are glorified, we will be able to satand in His presence and see Him facce to face! Hey, even the wicked dead are resurrected and are able to stand before Him to face judgment, so you've got to temper your early impressions with some right thinking. As children of the Father, we will ahev complete intimacy with Him in the Kingdom. Nowhere does the bible say that the righteous dead are kept in a holding place when they die. Even Paul teaches us that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Death cannot separate us from Jesus Christ! There is no such place as Paradise or Abraham's Bosom any more---there is just no need for it, because the price of redemption HAS BEEN PAID! Scripture says that Jesus led captivity captive, which means He led the OT saints out of Paradise and enabled them to now enter heaven, and it has been that way ever since. Apparently you do NOT get your information from scripture. Therefore, I don't give it much credit. Paradise is not void of Jesus presence. Don't assume He is just sitting at the right hand of God in Heaven. He is busy preparing a place for us. Frankly I don't care how much or how little credit you give what I am saying. I'm just sharing what the Lord has shown me.

Scripture doesn't teach what you are believing. Jesus is not in Paradise/Abraham's Bosom. It's empty. Jesus is with the father in heaven, His dwelling place. He is preparing a place for us THERE. So, you think that heaven is a hall of records? No, it is far beyond that!!! We are not going to be released from anywhere but our bodies at death, and immediately we will be ushered into His presence in heaven. We will not experience Judgment. The New Earth comes after the Millennium---where we believers will be ruling and reigning with Christ---and after Satan's release and final attempt at an insurrection against King Jesus. Your beliefs are just not scriptural. Someone has taught you error, or have you been self-taught? You are correct about the New Earth. But you are misinterpreting Scripture when you say Paradise is empty and we will spend eternity in Heaven. All you have to do is read Rev. 20 & 21 to see where we will spend eternity. If that changes the beliefs you hold on the subject I'm not surprised as many Christians have been the victims of false teachings. Please post the scripture that teaches us that Hades/Paradise is full of believers! I know Revelation 20 and 21 and I know what it says. Our final eternal home is here on the renewed earth. However, our City is the City of God---or heaven---where all believers who have died are right now. Knowing these truths is unchangable in those of us whom the Spirit of God has taught them. You are promoting a false concept, due to a poor comprehension of what "Paradise" is and why Jesus went there. Not "the renewed earth" but the New Earth. This planet will be destroyed and replaced with a new one which has no oceans.The New Jerusalem is Jesus' headquarters and it is not Heaven. We will never see the face of God but He will be with us in the person of Jesus. Hades is NOT full of Believers but contains the lost waiting the judgements. The thief on the cross was sent to Paradise a very real place for Believers awaiting the judgements. Those Believers who were removed from Paradise are the ones around God's throne. Believers who have died since then have gone to Paradise. These are truths that Jesus revealed to me. Our Lord did not stop speaking when the Bible was written. He will speak to you if you ask and listen. While the Bible is our primary teaching tool and guidebook don't restrict yourself to just what is printed in the Bible. By the same token don't believe anything that contradicts the Bible. What I have shared with you does not contradict the Bible but provides information that was not included in the Bible. And before you say "The Bible contains everything we should know" let me tell you that is a false assumption. LISTEN to the voice of the Lord and you will learn a lot. The earth will undergo and complete renewal by God. The New Jerusalem is the City of God which will come down to earth. We will indeed behold the very face of God! The Father and the Son and the Spirit will be with us forever. The thief on the cross, like all Old Covenant saints, found himself in Paradise, or Abraham's Bosom with Jesus that day as Jesus promised him...but Jesus led them all out of there to enter heaven, once He introduced Himself as their long awaited Messiah. Since that day, not one single believer has been confined there, for every believer in Jesus Christ goes to be with Him upon death. Not one single believer in Jesus Christ undergoes JUDGMENT, either. These things you are saying have not been revealed to you by Jesus, for they cannot be confirmed by scripture. God does not need Scripture to confirm what He says. That is an erroneous teaching by what I call "Bible lovers" who put the Bible ahead of everything else in God's kingdom. Where do you get the idea that THIS Earth will undergo a "renewal." That is NOT what Scripture says. It says "...the first Earth had disappeared." The Bible does not say we will see the face of God but that he will be with us and elsewhere the Bible says to see the face of God means we will die. Jesus is God and He will be with us. Nowhere does the Bible say Paradise has been cleaned out and no one ever goes there again. The Bible also does not say the New Jerusalem lands on the New Earth. It says the New Jerusalem "...comes down out of Heaven." If you are getting your information from the Bible you need to get it straight.

Scripture doesn't teach what you are believing. Jesus is not in Paradise/Abraham's Bosom. It's empty. Jesus is with the father in heaven, His dwelling place. He is preparing a place for us THERE. So, you think that heaven is a hall of records? No, it is far beyond that!!! We are not going to be released from anywhere but our bodies at death, and immediately we will be ushered into His presence in heaven. We will not experience Judgment. The New Earth comes after the Millennium---where we believers will be ruling and reigning with Christ---and after Satan's release and final attempt at an insurrection against King Jesus. Your beliefs are just not scriptural. Someone has taught you error, or have you been self-taught? You are correct about the New Earth. But you are misinterpreting Scripture when you say Paradise is empty and we will spend eternity in Heaven. All you have to do is read Rev. 20 & 21 to see where we will spend eternity. If that changes the beliefs you hold on the subject I'm not surprised as many Christians have been the victims of false teachings. Please post the scripture that teaches us that Hades/Paradise is full of believers! I know Revelation 20 and 21 and I know what it says. Our final eternal home is here on the renewed earth. However, our City is the City of God---or heaven---where all believers who have died are right now. Knowing these truths is unchangable in those of us whom the Spirit of God has taught them. You are promoting a false concept, due to a poor comprehension of what "Paradise" is and why Jesus went there. Not "the renewed earth" but the New Earth. This planet will be destroyed and replaced with a new one which has no oceans.The New Jerusalem is Jesus' headquarters and it is not Heaven. We will never see the face of God but He will be with us in the person of Jesus. Hades is NOT full of Believers but contains the lost waiting the judgements. The thief on the cross was sent to Paradise a very real place for Believers awaiting the judgements. Those Believers who were removed from Paradise are the ones around God's throne. Believers who have died since then have gone to Paradise. These are truths that Jesus revealed to me. Our Lord did not stop speaking when the Bible was written. He will speak to you if you ask and listen. While the Bible is our primary teaching tool and guidebook don't restrict yourself to just what is printed in the Bible. By the same token don't believe anything that contradicts the Bible. What I have shared with you does not contradict the Bible but provides information that was not included in the Bible. And before you say "The Bible contains everything we should know" let me tell you that is a false assumption. LISTEN to the voice of the Lord and you will learn a lot.

Scripture doesn't teach what you are believing. Jesus is not in Paradise/Abraham's Bosom. It's empty. Jesus is with the father in heaven, His dwelling place. He is preparing a place for us THERE. So, you think that heaven is a hall of records? No, it is far beyond that!!! We are not going to be released from anywhere but our bodies at death, and immediately we will be ushered into His presence in heaven. We will not experience Judgment. The New Earth comes after the Millennium---where we believers will be ruling and reigning with Christ---and after Satan's release and final attempt at an insurrection against King Jesus. Your beliefs are just not scriptural. Someone has taught you error, or have you been self-taught? You are correct about the New Earth. But you are misinterpreting Scripture when you say Paradise is empty and we will spend eternity in Heaven. All you have to do is read Rev. 20 & 21 to see where we will spend eternity. If that changes the beliefs you hold on the subject I'm not surprised as many Christians have been the victims of false teachings.

You are right about the judgements. But there is no Scripture saying Believers will be in Heaven. And where does it say that Jesus is not in Paradise. Do you really think He went to Heaven and just sits there at the right hand of the Father. He certainly is in Paradise too and He said he is going to prepare a place for us. Heaven is God's domain where the records and rewards are kept. After we are released from Paradise for the judgements we will spend eternity on the New Earth. No, I don't believe in soul sleep. Today when a saint dies they are alive and in Paradise.

If you would read the last part of Rev.20 and the first part of 21 you would see where our eternal home is going to be. Until the Judgements Believers are in Paradise.

All saints, including OT saints, are now with Jesus Christ in heaven. Yes, we will end up in the New Earth, and we will also reign with Christ on this old earth during the Millennium, before God renews the Earth. Scripture teaches this. The saints are in Paradise (which is not the same place a Heaven) awaiting the judgement day. It's the same place the thief on the cross went. Not so, Ambassador. You are not understanding. Paradise is in Hades---and it is now empty, since all saints have been led out. No believer, including the thief on the cross, is there since Jesus went there and set them free to go to heaven. The only people in Hades now---in the compartment of Hades that is occupied by the wicked---are unbelievers, awaiting Judgment. Christians do not experience the Judgment. Hades is the holding place of the lost awaiting the judgements. You have been the victim of wrong teaching.

All saints, including OT saints, are now with Jesus Christ in heaven. Yes, we will end up in the New Earth, and we will also reign with Christ on this old earth during the Millennium, before God renews the Earth. Scripture teaches this. The saints are in Paradise (which is not the same place a Heaven) awaiting the judgement day. It's the same place the thief on the cross went.