Jorge S

Let Jesus in, sister. Trust me. He is always available, He will make up for all your losses and enable you to establish healthier relationships with people. God has granted us to find in Him everything we need. Nothing and no one will ever fill you up like God can. All of this is probably meant to let you learn how to depend and rely only on Him. I have come to realize in the 47 years of my walk on earth that absolutely e v e r y b o d y will disappoint you or fall short of your expectations at any given time, whether unintentionally or deliberately. Everybody includes your parents, spouse, children, friends, co-workers, role models and strangers alike. And it doesn't matter whether you did anything to deserve it or not. It will just happen and there's little you can do about it. Besides, you may also hurt and disappoint others if you have not done it already more than once by now. The thought that Jesus died for them as well as for me humbles me enough to avoid feeling unduly offended or unforgiving. Jesus was whipped, slapped, spat, mocked, ridiculed with a crown of thorns, made to carry the log onto which he was to be hung, nailed to the cross, and caused to die an horrifying and undeserved death all by Himself. Jesus is qualified to know about your pain and isolation both for being God and for having experienced the same in the flesh. The pastors planted the seed and showed you directions and examples of a Christian way of life. Walk now with God, let Him deal with you directly, allow Him to turn you for others into the blessing those pastors were for you. Grace to you, sister. I'll have you in my prayers.

Please note that the comment about the RCC no longer teaching creationism in the literal sense of Genesis is an interpolation made by the reporter at the end of the article. Pope Benedict did not say it himself. We may assume that the current Pope adheres to the position of his church on that matter, but based on this report I cannot be sure about his own personal stance. I don't know what to make of the opening statement without further elaboration. The title of this thread is eye-catching but does not live up to its content. It feels forced and tendentious when seen in context. Here is the original article. I have highlighted in green the literal quotes of what the Pope said, in blue what the reporter says the Pope said, and in grey the final reporter's thoughts. God was behind Big Bang, universe no accident: Pope by Phillip Pullela VATICAN CITY | Thu Jan 6, 2011 10:05am EST (Reuters) - God's mind was behind complex scientific theories such as the Big Bang, and Christians should reject the idea that the universe came into being by accident, Pope Benedict said on Thursday. "The universe is not the result of chance, as some would want to make us believe," Benedict said on the day Christians mark the Epiphany, the day the Bible says the three kings reached the site where Jesus was born by following a star. "Contemplating it (the universe) we are invited to read something profound into it: the wisdom of the creator, the inexhaustible creativity of God," he said in a sermon to some 10,000 people in St Peter's Basilica on the feast day. While the pope has spoken before about evolution, he has rarely delved back in time to discuss specific concepts such as the Big Bang, which scientists believe led to the formation of the universe some 13.7 billion years ago. Researchers at CERN, the nuclear research center in Geneva, have been smashing protons together at near the speed of light to simulate conditions that they believe brought into existence the primordial universe from which stars, planets and life on earth -- and perhaps elsewhere -- eventually emerged. Some atheists say science can prove that God does not exist, but Benedict said that some scientific theories were "mind limiting" because "they only arrive at a certain point ... and do not manage to explain the ultimate sense of reality ..." He said scientific theories on the origin and development of the universe and humans, while not in conflict with faith, left many questions unanswered. "In the beauty of the world, in its mystery, in its greatness and in its rationality ... we can only let ourselves be guided toward God, creator of heaven and earth," he said. Benedict and his predecessor John Paul have been trying to shed the Church's image of being anti-science, a label that stuck when it condemned Galileo for teaching that the earth revolves around the sun, challenging the words of the Bible. Galileo was rehabilitated and the Church now also accepts evolution as a scientific theory and sees no reason why God could not have used a natural evolutionary process in the forming of the human species. The Catholic Church no longer teaches creationism -- the belief that God created the world in six days as described in the Bible -- and says that the account in the book of Genesis is an allegory for the way God created the world. But it objects to using evolution to back an atheist philosophy that denies God's existence or any divine role in creation. It also objects to using Genesis as a scientific text.

It is beyond debate that the whole Bible revolves around Jesus' atoning death. As for the Jews, please don't fail to recognize that the first Christians were those Jews who acknowledged and accepted Him as the promised Messiah. It is true that a segment of the Jewish society of those times downgraded their understanding of the Messiah to that of an earthly king that would delivered them from Rome, but your sweeping generalization cannot be sustained in view of textual and historic evidences. Jesus clearly preached that His Kingdom was not earth-bound. The same Jewish Apostles who first believed Him were the ones who elaborated further about the universal significance of Jesus as the Redeemer of all Mankind, as it was written. It is important that you submit yourself to a focused and unprejudiced biblical study of this essential matter so you understand that salvation in only found in Jesus. This is about destiny, not religion. The conclusion of the matter is that He died on the cross. In the passage you are quoting Jesus was showing his full humanity, a subject that would become important later within the history of Christianity regarding the doctrinal debates about His true Nature, both as Man and God. But we inherited the consequences nonetheless. If your father were a wealthy man and dilapidated his entire fortune due to wrong choices and went to prison for his non-payable debt, you would be born in misery and suffer all the consequences of such state even , when you did not do anything to deserve it. Similarly, you may also inherit a genetic disease because your parents exposed themselves to high levels of radiation due to their disregard for the prescribed protective measures to avoid contamination at the nuclear plant they were employed. Adam caused us to inherit a deadly spiritual disease. God's Justice is revealed in that instead of allowing us to die He provided the perfect cure at the expense of the life of His Only-Begotten Son. * For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (Joh_3:16)

Been there. Read that!!! BE BLESSED, BELOVED. * The Angel of Jehovah camps round about those who fear Him, and delivers them. Taste and see that Jehovah is good; blessed is the man who trusts in Him. O fear Jehovah, His holy ones; for there is nothing lacking to those who fear Him. (Psa 34:7-9)

His function as Messiah was to die for the transgressions of others. That was His one and only ransom. Jesus quoted a number of prophecies about Himself and the writers of the Gospel and the epistles also quoted a few as they recognized them. Jesus lived or acted out other prophecies without necessarily quoting them with words, like the appointed time of His Ministry on earth as prophesied by Daniel, the place where He would be born, His brief exodus to Egypt, and many more. Please, remember that what is quoted in John 16 and 17 was His last address to His disciples. He was seized immediately after and could not preach anymore, let alone speak except for a few sentences here and there until He died. He gave confirmation of having accomplished His mission already because there was no backing down from His chosen path which was to be offered in sacrifice. Often times God speak of things to come as though they were. Notice how He tells the disciples in the same passage: * I came forth from the Father, and have come into the world. Again I leave the world and go to the Father. (Joh 16:28) * Behold, the hour comes, yea, has now come, that you will be scattered, each man to his own things, and you will leave Me alone. And yet I am not alone, because the Father is with Me. I have spoken these things to you so that you might have peace in Me. In the world you shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer. I have overcome the world. (Joh 16:32-33) You are asking what has already been answered.

Dear A Muslim, I learned all of that from the Bible. It is not my invention. That God Himself would come in flesh to die for our sins is not the kind of naturally-occurring idea to be expected out of a human brain. We know this by revelation and we saw the fulfillment in Jesus. See, for example, these prophetic passages: * He is despised and rejected of men; a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as it were a hiding of faces from Him, He being despised, and we esteemed Him not. Surely He has borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions; He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was on Him; and with His stripes we ourselves are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, each one to his own way; and Jehovah has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and He was afflicted; yet He opened not His mouth. He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter; and as a sheep before its shearers is dumb, so He opened not His mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare His generation? For He was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgression of My people He was stricken. And He put His grave with the wicked, and with a rich one in His death; although He had done no violence, nor was any deceit in His mouth. Yet it pleased Jehovah to crush Him; to grieve Him; that He should put forth His soul as a guilt-offering. He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the will of Jehovah shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the fruit of the travail of His soul. He shall be fully satisfied. By His knowledge shall My righteous Servant justify for many; and He shall bear their iniquities. ... He has poured out His soul to death; and He was counted among the transgressors; and He bore the sin of many, and made intercession for transgressors. (Isa 53:3-11) * Seventy weeks are decreed as to your people and as to your holy city, to finish the transgression and to make an end of sins, and to make atonement for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. (Dan 9:24) Jesus plainly said several times that He had to die for others. Here is another citation: * ... the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many. (Mat 20:28) Truth rather is or is not. Among different and irreconcilable views only one is true. Men love to divide and classify themselves according to race, creed, culture, wealth and many other criteria but for God we are all equally His children. Adam and Eve transgressed and brought sin into this world before Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism or any other religion was born. Therefore, God's solution to the problem of sin applies universally to all humankind. That solution is Jesus Christ. I understand your religious background but that's not the point. I'm preaching you 'Jesus, and Him crucified'. When Adam sinned he separated himself from God, brought death upon himself and provoked the cursing of the earth. All his descendants are thus born in a state of separation from Our Creator into a cursed world and with a death sentence in our souls. God's Justice is revealed in that the human race was not annihilated right away and a plan of redemption was announced, implemented and fulfilled in Jesus, the only Person ever given to mankind Whose sacrificial 'deed' at the cross satisfies God's standards for the eternal forgiveness of sins. That is why He is the Only Way to God the Father, as He Himself proclaimed in the Gospels. You can do as many good deeds as you like; they cannot save you unless you have Jesus. We are saved by Grace which is a gift from God that does not depend on anything we can do. Blessings

Allusions!? I would say fulfillment. It was prophesied from the beginning in the Garden of Eden and continuously expanded and reiterated for 4 thousand years, prefigured with the implementation of the Mosaic Covenant, addressed by Jesus before and after His crucifixion, alluded to by the apostles and first disciples (Acts), and finally wrapped up by Paul (Romans, Colossians) and the author of Hebrews. There are over a hundred prophecies about Jesus in the Old Testament addressing all aspects and significance of His life, ministry and death. Jesus did not have to add anything but to fulfill what was written and expected of Him. That is why He constantly referred His hearers back to Scripture. The faithful Jews who were not contaminated by the corrupted religion of those days accepted Him as the promised Messiah and were baptized into the New Covenant. Many other signs followed suite, like the coming of the Holy Spirit, the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple and the universal dissemination of the Gospel. Then ask God to give you understanding. Jesus' atonement for sin is not a theory but the fulfillment of God's perfect justice, love and mercy. I wrote the following answer last year to a poster who asked why Jesus had to die. Perhaps it will entice you to make your own - prayerful - biblical research: "We often forget that God is not only inherently good, loving, almighty, omniscient and sovereign but also perfectly just and immutable. He is our Law-Giver and Supreme Judge Whose commandments have to be respected or else we incur the consequences of His Wrath. He is not pleased by sin neither yesterday nor today nor ever. Sin is essentially a transgression of His precepts and its wages is death (Rom 6:23, Eze 18:4), as the first couple was made aware in the Garden (Gen 2:17). On that fateful day when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit they gave God no other option but to make a ruling. Their disobedience had to be dealt with on the judicial terms the Lord had set out before. They died, first spiritually (that is, null and void as covenant allies, expelled from God's Presence) then physically, as they were denied access to the Tree of Life (Gen 3:22-23). It also happened that the earth was cursed and an animal was sacrificed to clothe the disobedient couple now aware --and ashamed -- of their nakedness before their Creator (Gen 3). And something else happened: a Redeemer was promised as the seed of the woman. (Gen 3:15) The original sin led to more sin due to its expansive nature. Even the global flood of Noah's times did not hamper the dissemination of lawlessness and decay. So here is the situation, we are all natural sinners (Rom 3:23, 1Jn 1:8) by ancestry (e.g. descendants of a sinful couple), born outside any covenant with God into a cursed world that is set for a final destruction and renewal. (Isa 65:17, 66:22; 2Pet 3:13; Rev 21:1-7) How can sin be atoned for? By shedding of blood. Because life -the very thing that sin will cost you- is in the blood (Lev 17:11), only the shedding of blood can remit sin (Heb 9:22). During the Old Testament times this was done by a complicated system of animal sacrifices centered on physical structures (improvised altars in the wilderness, at the tabernacle in the tent of the congregation and at the Jerusalem temple.) With the arrival of the prophesied Messiah the ultimate, eternal and definitive sacrifice was centered on the Person of Jesus Christ. Jesus willingly descended to us as a human, lived a blameless life and submitted Himself to an ignominious, undeserved death for our sake. That is, being innocent of any charge He died as a sinner to take our penalty. He then stands before the Father as our Mediator, He reconciles us back to Him. The costly debt Adam incurred for all of us, of which God's Justice demanded a refund, has been fully paid by Jesus. Therefore, the sins of those who appeal to Jesus can be forgiven. The blood of Jesus washes away the sin of Adam."

It was written. He came to fulfill what had been prophesied of Him from Genesis (3:15) to Malachi (4): * Do not think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to destroy but to fulfill. For truly I say to you, Till the heaven and the earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall in any way pass from the Law until all is fulfilled. (Mat 5:17-18) They knew Messiah was coming. They knew what Messiah was all about: * But when Herod the king heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said to him, In Bethlehem of Judea. For so it is written by the prophet, … (Mat 2:3-5) * He first found his own brother Simon and said to him, We have found the Messiah (which is, being translated, the Christ). (Joh_1:41) * The woman said to Him, I know that Messiah is coming, who is called Christ. When He has come, He will tell us all things. Jesus said to her, I AM, the One speaking to you. (Joh 4:25-26) * He said to them, But who do you say I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus answered and said to him, You are blessed, Simon, son of Jonah, for flesh and blood did not reveal it to you, but My Father in Heaven. (Mat 16:15-17) Some believed Him, some did not. Some were a faithful remnant, some were not. As it was written: * But He answered and said to them, Well has Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, "This people honours Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. However, they worship Me in vain, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." (Mat 7:6-7) * And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which said, "By hearing you shall hear and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see and shall not perceive; for this people's heart has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and they have closed their eyes, lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them." (Mat 13:14-15) * And the Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. And He found in the temple those who sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the money-changers sitting. And when He had made a scourge of small cords, He drove them all out of the temple, also the sheep and the oxen. And He poured out the money-changers' money and overthrew the tables. And He said to those who sold doves, Take these things away from here. Do not make My Father's house a house of merchandise. And His disciples remembered that it was written, "The zeal of Your house has eaten Me up." (Joh 2:13-17) Therefore, He spoke in parables: * And the disciples said to Him, Why do You speak to them in parables? He answered and said to them, Because it is given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of Heaven, but it is not given to them. Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not; nor do they understand. (Mat 13:10-11) * ... Master, we want to see a sign from you. But He answered and said to them, An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. And there shall be no sign given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the huge fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. (Mat 12:38-40) Until such a time when His full revelation would be preached: * I have spoken these things to you in parables, but the time is coming when I shall no more speak to you in parables, but I will show you plainly of the Father. (Joh_16:25) * You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you and ordained you. And when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He shall testify of Me. And you also shall bear witness, because you have been with Me from the beginning. (Joh 15:16, 26-27) He taught He had to die, though; as it was written: * This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. (John 15:12-13) * The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. Was it not necessary for the Christ to suffer these things and to enter into His glory? And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself. (Luk 9:22, 24:26-27) * Jesus said to them, Did you never read in the Scriptures, "The stone which the builders rejected, this One has become the head of the corner; this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes?" (Mat. 21:42) As for Paul, he was ordained to bear witness: * ... For this one is a chosen vessel to Me, to bear My name before nations and kings and the sons of Israel. (Act 9:15) And his writings were considered inspired, therefore, Scripture; that is, Jesus was talking through him: * And think of the long-suffering of our Lord as salvation (as our beloved brother Paul also has written to you according to the wisdom given to him) (2Pet. 3:15) * For prophecy was not borne at any time by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke being borne along by the Holy Spirit. (2Pet. 1:21)

* For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rom 6:23) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of One shall many be made righteous. (Rom 5:19) * But when Christ had become a high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building nor by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered once for all into the Holies, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats and the ashes of a heifer sprinkling the unclean sanctifies to the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ (who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God) purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause He is the Mediator of the new covenant, so that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first covenant, those who are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. (Heb 9:11-15)

AMEN! Great testimony, sister.

Correct! Miracles do not have scientific explanations. * He has made the earth by His power; He has established the world by His wisdom, and has stretched out the heavens by His understanding. (Jer. 51:15)

Correct! Miracles do not have scientific explanations. * He has made the earth by His power; He has established the world by His wisdom, and has stretched out the heavens by His understanding. (Jer. 51:15)

Dear Don, You seem to create a false dichotomy between God's Plan and God's Work when you acknowledge that the former is perfect but deem the second imperfect. When applied to God's original creation of the universe and its inhabitants such dichotomy is untenable. Let us firstly apply a simple rule Jesus taught us: '… every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruits, nor can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.' (Mat 7:17-18) If Adam was created imperfect then God is imperfect. The poor Adam would have been victimized twice, e.g. for being the product of a suboptimal manufacture and for being modeled after a faulty original. Secondly, God would be automatically invalidated as a judge if He made Adam imperfect for the sake of showing off His own perfection. On what moral grounds could Adam be reprimanded if he was sinning as intended by His Maker? To say it in Paul's words: 'But if our unrighteousness serves to confirm God's righteousness, what can we say? God is not unrighteous when he vents his wrath on us, is he? (I am talking in human terms.) Of course not! Otherwise, how could God judge the world? For if through my falsehood God's truthfulness increases to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?' (Rom 3:5-7). A third issue to factor in is the fact that Adam was created to inhabit a sinless world. Whatever you consider the pre-fall world to have been, it is easy to conclude from the biblical record that it was better than what it became later. Adam did not have to work for a living, God visited the garden physically and communicated face to face with him and his wife, the climatic conditions were such that they didn't even need any clothing, animals were not killed for food, there was no death, etc. The picture changed dramatically after the sin of disobedience. Adam and Eve gained a new type of self-awareness that caused them to hide from themselves, from each other and from God, they experience fear and shame, failed to repent and to ask for forgiveness, were expelled from the garden, had to labor to feed themselves and raise a family, lost access to the tree of life, lost communion with God, caused the killing of the first animals for clothing, the earth was cursed for their sake, and so forth. He then had to suffer the murder of his second son at the hands of his firstborn. As a matter of fact, the Bible does not record any other action, word or thought by Adam after the fall other than stating the duration of his life and that he had other children. By the time of Noah sin had propagated so intensely that only Noah and his immediate family were worthy of being saved from God's judgement expressed by means of a devastating universal flood. Everything kept and still keeps today getting worse. It is hard to imagine that this sad picture was what God meant for His creation. His foreknowledge of 'the end at the beginning' of all things does not mean that He created Adam to sin by default and bring about all that trouble. He also knew that Adam was equipped to stay on course. That is why he was presented with the opportunity of acknowledging God's authority and staying not only biologically but also morally perfect by not partaking of the forbidden fruit. God expects highly of us: 'What more could have been done to my vineyard that I have not done in it? Who knows? I looked for it to yield grapes but it yielded rotten grapes.' (Isa 5:4) […]' Why do you transgress the commandments of Jehovah so that you cannot be blessed? Because you have forsaken Jehovah, He has also forsaken you.' (2Ch 24:20) If you do well, shall you not be accepted?(Gen 4:7) Interestingly, no sinner in the Bible has ever charged against God the argument that our sins are His fault. But perhaps you should ask yourself what kind of perfection do you require of Adam. One to emulate God's? Or the one he would attain by abiding in Him? 'I am the Vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, the same brings forth much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.' (John 15:5) Blessings, Jorge.

Dear Don, There doesn't seem to be a biblical way out of the theological pit you have stumbled into. If your view is carried all the way to its logical consequences we have Jesus not redeeming us from our sins but rather atoning for His own 'faulty' creation. It doesn't make sense. As for 'very good' not expressing the notion of 'perfect' we have here an alienating case of extreme literalism. For all that matters, an awesome Creator Who is elsewhere in the Bible described as a perfect God, perfect in all His Ways, declares to be pleased with His completed creation and rests. Why has His creative outpouring to be understood as anything less than perfect!? His judgement is ultimately the standard for perfection and He liked what He accomplished. * He is the Rock; His work is perfect. For all His ways are just, a God of faithfulness, and without evil; just and upright is He.(Deu 32:4) Adam's sin does not constitute a tool by which we can evaluate God's creative ability. He was made perfect then became sinful. He could have remained perfect but decided not to. Perfection was not only his initial state: it was expected to be a continuous process in which he had to participate willingly. * I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way (Psa 101:2) There was a Tree of Life in the garden and he had access to it as long as he remained in partnership with God. This indicates to me that his immortality was not innate but rather covenant-based. Once he sinned against God he opted out of the covenant and could no longer have access to the Tree of Life. His biological death later was a mere manifestation of the spiritual death that occurred right there at the fall, not before. Your emphasis is placed upon Adam's 'propensity' to sin as a sign of imperfection in God's manufacture. You are mistaken in that assumption. * You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until iniquity was found in you. ( Eze 28:15) Adam was not created to be a powerless marionette inevitably doomed to err. God did manufacture into man's nature the ability to resist sin and stay perfect. It is as simple as an informed and willful choice to obey His commands: * And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree in the garden, but you shall not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. For in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die. (Gen 2:16-17) * Jehovah appeared to Abram and said to him, I am the Almighty God! Walk before Me and be perfect. (Gen 17:1) * I call Heaven and earth to record today against you. I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing. Therefore, choose life... (Deu 30:19) * Therefore be perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect. (Mat 5:48) Wishing you a perfect (or should I emphatically say 'very good'!?) grasp of Scripture, Jorge.

Not so quite. I had a different experience altogether, which started first by needing God pretty badly and asking Him to show me where He could be found. He led me to Jesus, I surrender my life to Him and--only then--I started believing the Bible. Blessings.