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    Why Hell?

    I was actually looking for another thread when I came upon this and like Ted I was surprised it took 3 pages to get to the heart of the matter - SIN. We grapple with our finite minds trying to comprehend infinite God, the Trinity, where did He come from and all that and we also do it with that place called hell & eternal judgement. The idea of it all is so horrific, horrible, incomprehendable that we'll go to extremes to deny it or to say I can't believe that part of the Bible. It's down right replusive and frightening. No wonder we read in Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. I'm not saying I do, but for the most, we just don't understand how vile and replusive it is to a holy, pure, totally just and righteous God sin actually is. Remember when Jesus said in Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. How fast is lightning? A lot of times we trivialize it or just brush it off, but in spite of that it was so necessary and important to God to do everything he could to provide a way to redeem sinful humanity. The only way He could was to send His son. Jesus prayed three times that 'the cup' would pass from Him. Matt 26. That's how bad it was. His humanity revolted at it, but His desire to be obedient to God and His love for us overruled. When we dwell and understand a little bit more about God's mercy & love for us - that depth - we might be able to get an idea of the opposite side of the spectrum. If hell isn't what the Bible portrays it to be, as Larry has so aptly provide, then what is the point of this web site or forum? Why are we out here spinning our wheels trying to get the message of the Gospel out. Did the apostles & those after die in vain? Have countless martyrs throughout the centuries given up there lives for nothing? Can you imagine them finding out, 'Oh, gee it was nice of you to die for Me, but those who didn't believe jwill ust suffer a little bit'. Sounds absurb doesn't it. In our justice system we penalize based on the seriousness of the crime. Parking tickets a few bucks, shoplifting a little time in jail or a fine, robbery some years, rape lots of years, murder a lifetime or death. Get the point? The more serious the crime the greater the punishment. So how serious do you think sin is in God's eye, that the punishment is not only eternal separation and all the other things discribed about? If the punishment fits the crime as it is said, then we need to consider it more from God's perspective. God is going to punish sin in a way that defies discription.
  2. All in due time Eve. You need to read to the end. This is the very hope we as believers have. We look beyond the grave with a hope and assurance of eternal life. Not only did Jesus' death on the cross provide the redemption of sinful men, should they repent & trust Jesus, but his sacrafice also redeemed creation. He just hasn't cashed it in yet, so to speak. Rev 21:1
  3. Thank you. It really does come down to pride, not only in matters like this, but even with the day-in and day-out ones we encounter. As you well know, the Bible has much to say about pride. It not only keeps one from coming to the Truth, but will stiffle the growth of those who have.
  4. Feeling a little trouble by all this? By the number of posts you have, certainly there has to be something here that you haven't been able to come to terms with. Where can you run from the gnawing thought that maybe just maybe there might be some truth to all this Christianity & Jesus stuff. Considering for almost 2000 years man in all his pseudo-wisdom, degrees, knowlege, philisophical efforts to rid the world of this, can't. To some it must be like a bad dream. Where can one run to to get away from this God they don't even believe is there? What do you do with your conscience? How do you flee from that? The truth of the matter is you can't. Nobody can. Why not? Ro 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Deny as much as you want, but you (and everyone else) is without excuse & deep down inside you know it. He has already revealed Himself to you. Enough to know you are accountable to Him in some way. Ro 1:19
  5. Merton also speaks much of Christian meditation, he often used our wonder at God's creation, just sitting in the woods and realizing that it is all part of God's creation, really how awesome is that! God's hands were on that plant, that bug, that bird, He designed it all, just thinking about that to me is also Christian meditation. Thomas Merton has heavily influenced what is called today New Age, which incorporates Eastern thought in regards to approaching God. This movement has inflitration the church under the terms of Contemplative Spirituality, Contemplative Prayers, breathe prayers. These dangerous concepts have been creeping in the church for years now. The influence is not hard to find in the Purpose Driven books. As stated, mediation should be filling one's mind not emptying it.
  6. I just started reading it and so far I think it is fascinating. Unless something changes I intend to buy copies for some unsaved friends. I listened to his testimony about not long ago & a friend of mine loaned me a book by some woman who had a similiar experience. Her book came out about 5 or 6 years ago, but can't remember the title. I read a couple chapters & ended that. Though these might be interesting readings, they are difficult to measure up to the scriptures. If you remember Jesus' accounting of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16, He ended the story by saying: Lu 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. God's method of salvation is through the power of the Gospel (Rom 1:16), not through some mystical experience. You Have to ask yourself a some questions here. Who originated the experience? How does it line up with what has already been revealed in the scriptures? If a spiritual experience can't be confirmed by the scriptures, we leave ourselves open to deception by trying to conform the Bible to that experience. I wouldn't waste your money on copies to pass around. The Word of God is more than sufficient to open one's eyes to the truth. Ps 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
  7. Enjoyed your study and thanks for being so thorough. It's amazing how clear the things of God become once you have become His and we can easily wonder why others can't. To me, it only underscores how merciful he is to us revealing Himself in such a way to bring us to salvation. Compared to so many who refuse Him, it is so humbling to know that is not the case with us. Much prayer is needed for those who still live in darkness so that the vail be taken away. Looking forward to your next installment.
  8. I came across this in an article or book recently, but can't remember exactly where. Here is a link which should provide you some direction & if I can locate the other source, I'll post it. Kinesiology
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