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  1. Here are some other creeds, just for looks. Athansian Creed 1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith; 2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. 3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; 4. Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance. 5. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. 6. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal. 7. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. 8. The Father uncreate, the Son uncreate, and the Holy Spirit uncreate. 9. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible. 10. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. 11. And yet they are not three eternals but one eternal. 12. As also there are not three untreated nor three incomprehensible, but one untreated and one incomprehensible. 13. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty. 14. And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty. 15. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; 16. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. 17. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord; 18. And yet they are not three Lords but one Lord. 19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; 20. So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say; There are three Gods or three Lords. 21. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. 22. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. 23. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. 24. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. 25. And in this Trinity none is afore or after another; none is greater or less than another. 26. But the whole three persons are coeternal, and coequal. 27. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped. 28. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity. 29. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. 30. For the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man. 31. God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of substance of His mother, born in the world. 32. Perfect God and perfect man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. 33. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood. 34. Who, although He is God and man, yet He is not two, but one Christ. 35. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of that manhood into God. 36. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. 37. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; 38. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into ####, rose again the third day from the dead; 39. He ascended into heaven, He sits on the right hand of the Father, God, Almighty; 40. From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead. 41. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies; 42. and shall give account of their own works. 43. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. 44. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully he cannot be saved. And also the Nicene Creed.. I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made. Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end. And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets. And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
  2. Teri- It is common for those who have lost loved ones to "talk" to their loved ones. We talk to ourselves every day in our heads. That is not an unchristian thing. It is a theaputic thing. I think that maybe you could tell her to PRAY to God and talk to her husband. Even writing letters to your loved ones that have died can help you. What she is doing is ok....just make sure you ask her that you need to understand that she is talking and NOT praying. This should also be told to her children. God is ALWAYS there to comfort us however HE feels we need it. I hope this helps you. GEL
  3. What about visons and dreams about the dead?? For instance my father died 3 years ago. I had a dream about 2 weeks later. In the dream he was standing outside a huge castle like door and looked about mid 30's. He was smiling and said nothing. It was almost as if someone was letting me know he got up there ok! I also had another dream about a year ago about my father. It was so vivid that I could consiously think about what questions i would ask before I asked them. He told me all about heaven and what it was like and how each person had a job to do up there. I have never had so much control of my thoughts in a dream before. So is this satan messing with me or Gods way of letting me know that things are going good up there in heaven? GEL
  4. Well since our loved ones are in heaven RIGHT NOW...Why in the world would they want to come back to this nasty place?? If heaven is everything we ever wanted....seems that earth is not a place we would want to spend our time. I do however believe that God can give visions, as I have had them myself in order to comfort the person. GEL
  5. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah benny blah bhla benny blah blah blah bljha? OK GUYS....I think there is SO MUCH more in the world to talk about then BENNY HINN. This topic is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo FRUITLESS!!! GEL
  6. Lanakina- How does one use apoligetics with JW's? Got any stragites to help me? GEL
  7. I agree boblandis! I think...and i am not talking about anyone in here...but i think that some christians have become very passive and Politically Correct and WATERED DOWN. it is SATANS way of weaking us to accept what he is ready to give! The next thing we know GAYS will be accpeted along with their lifesyle. NO....WE are NOT judgeing by the intent of our hearts...WE are reading the word of GOD and hearing GOD judge people. We are being lead by the HS to STAY AWAY...WE are being WARNED by GOD. MAN its good to have JESUS ain't it??? GEL
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    The judgement seat of Christ is differant from the great white throne of judgement. The seat of Christ is for the belivers and the throne is for the unbelievers. There are 2 differant ones...not one in the same. From what I have read in the bible. GEL PS yes Christ did die for our sins and "paid" at the cross however WE still have to repent!
  9. I have to comment on the lady who is always on TBN. You know the tammy fay baker look alike?? I cannot understand WHY this lady would wear so much jewerly and makeup and fake hair and yet try NOT to act vain. My hubbie cannot even stand looking at her. What is the deal? hehehehe OK......fire at will at me I am ducking! LOL GEL
  10. So i did some searching on Hal. OKKKKKKk...well i don't agree with HIS doctrine but angel you go ahead and defend him...I am sure you both agree with the same doctrines. i don't and THATS ok! BTW.....I don't appreciate being asked how many people I have lead to the Lord....Do you have marks on your house somewhere that you keep track?? I don't. To be proud about wearing one's works like metals, as if works are somthing to be honored in this lifetime is not biblical. GEL
  11. uhhhhh Ya the guys name is Michael Drosnin. He is still searching for proof of God. This is the author of the book Bible Code. Who the heck is Hal Lindsey....He didn;t write the book..Michael Drosnin did and if Hal is associated with michael don;t you think he should be spending more time helping michael find God and less time on a code? GEL
  12. The thing that erked me about the book is the author...after all that research was STILL questioning if there was a God! It made me thing...."what MORE proof do you need" Pray for the dude and his salvation! GEL
  13. I have done enought studing on the JW to realize that they are a CULT and there interpretations are for the religion and not the people. I have showed her many many many times where and what and when these doctrines that she belives in are WRONG and UNBIBLICAL. She is not convinced. You see if a person grows up interpreting scripture ONE way and with heavey influence, it is very hard for them to look at ehat the word of god is really saying. I have been trying to convince her about the trinity for 10 years and that got me nowhere! I guess i will have to wait to see if she will ever call me again. This is so sad. I know that God has his resons for seperating people with his word....i guess i should just trust HIM. THanks GEL
  14. My friend of 10 years has not spoken to me in 3 months. We got into a debate about the christmas tree and it lead to her needing a "break" from me. She feels it is pagan and she WILL NOT come to my house if i have one up, but it is ok for her to go to another firneds house who has a christmas tree. It seems ever since she started having bible studies with the JW people she has harped on all these pagan things and all the things I should NOT be doing. I have defended my self plenty times with all sorts of scripture but it failed. What can someone do when their friends are influenced but the cult!??!?! GEL
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