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  1. Nope. The Bibe says die once and then the judgment per Hebrews 9:27.
  2. The thrust of that portion of scripture is that they knew who He was but refused to submit themselves. A very clear parallel is being drawn there between the blind man who was healed, and believed in Jesus and the Pharisees, who saw this man worship Jesus, as the Messiah, and they said nothing to the man worshiping, which they should of because if Jesus was not the Messiah, that man would have been committing open blasphemy.
  3. Boy, between this thread and the other one I can see you really want them babies goin' to Hell . . . This is Bogus Holiness Doctrine on Quaaludes. God is just and merciful, but. . . He's going to hold people accountable for something in the future that they never lived in and never did. Yeah, right. I've heard other people talk about this belief but . . . Wow. 100% false. God does not hold people accountable for something they don't get the chance to do or not do because they are dead but might have done, if they were alive, in the future. It doesn't even make sense when you repeat it four or five times. It wouldn't even make sense if Brad Pitt were acting it out in a movie.
  4. Probably one of the worst things I have ever seen written on a forum about infants who have died. No baby has rejected Jesus since they have not been given the opportunity yet. Some of the most convoluted "logic" I have ever seen. Your premise says that God holds people responsible for choices they have not yet made in a life they have not yet lived. Wow.
  5. False. A person who is blind is not rejecting anything. The entire meaning of John 9:41 is not that the Pharisees were blind. Jesus' entire point is that they were not blind. They knew who He was, but rejected Him anyway because He was not the Messiah they wanted. An Atheist is not blind. An Atheist knows about God but rejects him anyway.
  6. Yes, the BabylonBee is satire. Funny, but a steady diet of it quickly becomes simply annoying.
  7. Trey Gowdy. You mean the same Trey Gowdy that ran a 2 year Dog & Pony show called The Benghazi Hearings and then did absolutely nothing at the end of the process because he's a political grand-stander? His "hearings" that never produce any actual results are becoming like a weekly TV series. "Tune in next week for Trey Gowdy in Weekly Congressional Hearing."
  8. When I make the roux for Sausage gravy I always use bacon grease. I keep a jar of it in the 'fridge at all times. There usually is not enough fat from the sausage to make a roux and plain oil just is not going to give the gravy much flavor. It might be more forgiving of burning, but you never want to leave a roux unattended. It should be stirred constantly until it is where you want it because once you discover it might be burning, it's too late and it's already ruined.
  9. This is not a difficult concept. Jesus was without sin. Therefore, He cannot suffer eternal punishment for our sins. He did not commit those sins. Most translations do not translate musar as "punishment" in Isaiah 53:5. Most translate it as chastisement.
  10. Jesus gave Himself as a perfect sacrifice to atone for our sins. He was sinless Himself so there is no way he could be "punished" in the way you are using the term. He took on the pain and the shame of our sins, suffering in our stead. That does not equal punishment. That is why He is not "still" burning, has never burned and will never burn. He is sinless. We are not. Whoever accepts Jesus as their sacrifice is cleansed of sin, in God's eyes for all eternity. A person who rejects Jesus remains in a sinful state and suffers punishment for eternity.
  11. Then what do you do with Revelation 20? Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time. 4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years. 7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth--Gog and Magog--to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. This section (The Great White Throne Judgement) has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. But everyone who is not found in the Lamb's book goes to Hell, i.e. the Lake of Fire. The same exact Lake of Fire from Yowms previous Rev. 14 scripture. Eternal torment for anyone who is an unbeliever isn't guesswork or "not being honest with scripture." It's all over the New Testament anywhere an unbeliever is talked about, literally. This is just one example. To support Annihilationism, one has to either infer something into the text that isn't there, or try to somehow re-explain the word "eternal" to make it go away.
  12. That is a declarative statement that you cannot make since you have never been dead. The physical body dies but the Bible is clear that the spirit lives on. You do not know for sure whether "consciousness" as we understand the term is suspended for a period of time or continues in a different spiritual dimension between the point one dies and then is taken to either heaven, or hell. Because the Bible is abundantly clear that people have definite destinations after death whether they receive Jesus or not. If they accept Jesus, they go to heaven, if they do not receive Jesus they go to Hell. Those are the only two options, biblically-speaking. There is no such thing as annihilation and just Revelation 20 alone makes that abundantly clear.
  13. You cannot equate pre-Church Age people with post-Church Age people. Either the Sabbath is tied to salvation or it is not. It is not a difficult question nor does it have shades of gray. It either is, or it is not. It is the kind of question that a Sabbath keeper cannot answer one way or a the other without placing themselves in a pot of boiling water.
  14. You failed to answer the question. Does a person who does not observe the Sabbath lose their salvation? That is a pretty simple yes or no question. Keep in mind that keeping the Sabbath according to strictly biblical guidelines has been a physical impossibility since the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. No one has been able to keep the Sabbath since that event.
  15. I think that your idea of introducing children in school to ultrasounds at a certain age is an excellent one. Often impressions made on us when we are children stay with us strongly our entire life. I don't believe that the pictures of aborted children do much beyond making most people recoil at the graphic-ness of it. It more than likely shocks them but I don't think it does a lot to make them re-think their position on it, one way or another. A person truly against abortion does not need to see them because they are already against abortion and they are not going to suddenly approve of it. The ones that are virulently pro-abortion are not going to change their mind short of direct conviction from God. There are a few people who will reconsider their pro-abortion position by seeing these pictures but I highly doubt it is enough to warrant exploiting these children a second time.