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  1. If you knew the truth, and told it, it wouldn't be a trap. It's only a trap because you know you will contradict yourself, and my purpose in asking is fulfilled. Thank you. To answer my own question: One must learn true doctrine, teaching true teachings, and practice correct practices in order to be saved. Of course, salvation is only possible through Jesus Christ. He gave us His gospel to help us return to Him. Distorted gospel principles or teachings will not save us.
  2. ummm...no..we were not created to be a god. Where is your scripture to back this? There is only one God and He created us to worship the one true God, Himself!
  3. I am sure that you are proud of your humility Joe. But forgive me, it was I who wronged you. I have said things that weren't Christ-like. I have offended Your brothers and sisters. I have intruded upon your peaceful and unchallenged way of viewing things. I have created a user name that will condemn me. I have you find room in your heart to forgive me. I plead for your forgiveness, and for God's. But a simple question: Do you believe that God will save us no matter what we learn, practice, or teach, as long as we have faith in Jesus Christ? Is that all it takes? Does the Bible tell you that?
  4. Sorry, I should have specified. Biblicist gave us definitions of denominations and religions. So I guess you could say they were different Christian denominations that were confused on the subject of Jesus being Jehovah. Now, what I would like to know is who classified Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses as "non-Christian?" Anyone who makes that assumption is misinformed. But, as a Mormon, I enjoy being in my own "category."
  5. "a g-d in training" I think it is rather a dangerous practice to consider yourself a g-d in training. Or a g-d at all. There is only one God who exists in three persons. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
  6. {{{ You can have your own }}} Thanks But No Thanks! I'd rather have the "real deal", Jesus! "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35) "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11) Oops! Must be a Mormon (LDS)? Oh yeah! The scriptures are clear, The Church is The Body of Christ, brought into existence by a spiritual birth, not some organization of men crafted out of the twisting of The Holy Bible they knowingly disregard and trying with all their might to block sinners from the real Jesus! Love, Joe
  7. Christians have been and will continue to be persecuted. Sure it is a sign of truth. But, persecution alone is not a sign. There must be fact, it must make sense, and there must be the "fruits." By their fruits ye shall know them. Who is it that inspires persecution? Ultimately, it is the devil. He of all people wants nothing more than to destroy the truth. Another sad thing is the persecution amongs the Christian sects. Persecution from without, and what most don't realize, is the persecution from within. The different denominations, clergy, follwers, etc, are attacking other religions, leaders, and members. And what for? Over small differences in belief. It is clear that not all can be right at once, and yes, there must exist one true church. Most everyone has the strong conviction that it is their own church, which is normal and acceptable. But this does not mean that we have the right to infringe upon others beliefs, practices, and religious rights. But yes, unfortunately there is persecution, and it will only grow worse until the day of Christ's return. It has been prophesied and it will come to pass.
  8. A "god" in the sense as he was a heavenly being, an archangel of high rank. So, what does this have to do with your name? Surely you do not identify with Lucifer? Why so obscure? Good observation. It has nothing to do with Lucifer, nor to I wish to offiliate myself with him. He certainly was a person of high rank before the world was, and it is a pity that he desired more than what God had promised to give him. Now, to all, the reason I proposed this question is not because I am in doubt on the subject. I lived in Brazil for some time, and I saw many different religions and I often asked about their beliefs and practices. I guess you could say that I interviewed a number of leaders and members. It seemed that nobody knew whether the Father is Jehovah, or if it is Christ. People from the same congregations often contradicted one another. I wanted to see if it was the same in the States, but I find that people here are much more well informed on the topic. Thanks for the replies.
  9. "..... What think ye of Christ? ....." (Matthew 22:42) An interesting question. I would like to hear from you, Dear "a god in training" Have you ever heard the true story about the most wondrous being who thought to become "a god in training"? Where it all started..... "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" "For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:" "I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." "Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." "They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms" "That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?" "All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house." "But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." "Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned." (Isaiah 14:12-20) Wow! Are you sure you really, really want to be known as "a god in training"? Oh look here "a god in training"! How it all ends..... "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them." (Revelation 20:10-11) As you may or may not know "a god in training", there is no need to join "the one who would be god" in this lake..... "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." (John 3:16-17) Dear "a god in training", a question of love you only need to answer to The Holy Father in Heaven but one you are encouraged to share with this Jesus family here at Worthy..... "..... What think ye of Christ? ....." (Matthew 22:42) An interesting question. I would like to hear from you, Love, Joe Hi Joe, you didn't answer my question. But to answer yours, Lucifer was a god before the world was. The Bible tells us this.
  10. An interesting topic. I would like to hear from you all. What do YOU think? Is Christ the Eternal Jehovah, God of the Old Testament?
  11. When dealing with different or strange tounges, as they have come to be called, we must move forward with caution. We must ask ourselves: What is the purpose of praying or speaking in some unknown tounge? The Bible states clearly in 1 Corinthians chapter 14 that unless there is someone translating, you must keep quite, speaking to God alone. Paul tells us that he would rather say 5 words in a language he knows and others understand that speaking 1000 words in some unknown tounge. Everything that comes from God will edify us. How are we being edified, illuminated, or improved by speaking a language that we infact do not understand ourselves. And if we don't understand, will the people who listen interpret that? And if no one understands, is there any task being accomplished? We must remember that there are two spirits at work here. God's, and the devil's. Remember, that if it doesn't edify, it doesn't come from God. And if it doesn't come from God, where does it come from? The devil. Now, don't get me wrong. I believe in the gift of tounges. But we must not distort what the Bible tells us. Acts 2 tells us of a remarkable outpouring of the spirit, resulting in the bestowal of the gift of tounges on the apostles. What tounges did they speak? Strange, unknown languages? No. They spoke Greek, Latin, Arabic, Hebrew, etc. There were many people there from many backgrounds, and each heard the apostles speak in THEIR own langauges, which caught them offguard, for they asked amongst themselves: Are not these men Galileans? Yet they speak to us in OUR own tounges. Therefore, the Gift of Tounges is NOT speaking in strange, unknown languages, BUT, it is speaking in languages that exist so that others may hear and understand the Good Word.
  12. Helping and sustaining Israel is fulfilling prophecy. Israel will rise up in the last days, acknowledge Christ as their King, and will prepare the way for the Messaih's return. Anyone who studies the Bible knows this.
  13. How can the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost be ONE personage? They can't. Would Christ ever say anything to confuse us? Is he an actor? A hypocrite? God forbid! Why on numerous occasions does He refer distinctly to His Father? Why doesn't He refer to Himself as God The Father? I do those things that please my Father.... I am on my Father's errand.... Pray to my Father which is in Heaven.... Pray in My name, unto the Father.... The Father judgeth no one, but giveth all judgement unto the Son.... These are merely a few examples of what Christ has said in the New Testament. THe following experiences should help us to realize that there are in fact three, and not One: When Christ was baptized, a voice was heard from where? From the heavens. And what descended in the sign of a dove? The Holy Ghost. Here we see three distint personages. Christ, while on the cross, cried unto His Father. "Why hast thou forsaken me?" This phrase implies the absence of His Father's presence. God was and is with Him(Christ) but in that moment God left Christ alone to suffer for our sins, and Christ felt that. When Christ was resurrected, Mary stretched forth her hand to touch Him, but He wouldn't permit her, saying He had not yet gone up to where His Father is. Plain and simple. Christ, after His death and ressurrection, had not gone to where the Father was upon meeting Mary in the garden of the empty tomb. After Christ's death, a man named Stephen looked up into heaven while being stoned, and saw the Glory of God and Christ on the right hand of God. How could He distinguish two personages? Was he hallucinating? Doubtful, since even in the most strenuous or painful circumstances, Holy Men are still spiritually focussed. So, are God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost One personage? Or are they three seperate beings? Christ prayed unto His Father in John 17, for His apostles, that they might be one in Him as He was one with the Father. How can there exist such unity among mortal men? They cannnot possibly be One being; various personalities within one body. It is not logical, it is not Biblical, it is not True Doctrine. God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are One in idea, purpose, thought, mind, but not in physical form. God has a body of flesh and bone, the Son also, but the Holy Ghost is a spirit, for if it were not, it could not dwell within us.
  14. While scanning through the various topics on the board, this one really struck me. I find it amazing that some believe that there is no true or perfect church on the earth. Wait a second....let's take a step back, open our minds, and dive into the Bible. The Bible refers to "The Church" dozens of times in the New Testament, by Christ Himself as well as the Apostles and others towards the latter end of that first century. Christ truly organized a church. And something that Christ does, makes, or creates....can it have flaws? Imagine Jesus as a carpenter. Was there ever a better carpenter? Were not His works perfect? Or did He fall short? Owing to the numerous references that Christ did infact form or organize a church, that church therefore must be Perfect. All agreed? Of course we cannot begin to imagine that the members of the named church are perfect, BUT....The Church in itself: the organization, structure, priesthood, divine guidance through revelation-that is Perfect. God is Eternal and unchanging. I believe we all agree on this point. God loves His creations. We, His children, are His greatest creations. He loves us dearly and will do anything to help us return to Him. This is the purpose in organizing His church. To perfect US. It is just like a school. This life is a test, and we must study hard, among other things, in order to pass. What happens if we don't go to school? Will we pass the final? What if we learn wrong material? We can classify such as false doctrine. Will the wrong material help us out? Will false doctrines save us, even if our faith is strong? False doctrine, no matter what the degree of our faith, will only condemn us. Christ made His church to teach us the truth, and the Truth (and Only the truth) will set us free (save us). To say that God has no Perfect church on the Earth today is to say that God changes, that He no longer loves us, and the days of salvation are over. There can only be One true church. Only One. There do not exist two churches in this world who agree on every point of doctrine. Two conflicting ideas, doctrines, or teachings cannot be true simultaneously.....it simply is not possible. Therefore, only One church, One organization, One....dare I say....Religion is True and Perfect. If there isn't a Perfect Church, we are all damned. Now, which one is it? There are thousands out there. But it's easy to find out. God requires a broken heart and a contrite spirit of all His children. We might ask ourselves: Am I humble enough? Am I Truly seeking the Truth? If I find it, will I give up everything to follow it? God asks simple things of us. He, as our Father, will listen to and answer His children. But we must meet the requirements. Ask of God, trust in Him, and He will lead you to good. The Holy Spirit speaketh not of itself, but testifieth of truth, and guideth to all truth.
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