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OneLight

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  1. The first death is when one physically dies. The second death is when one is cast away from God into the lake of fire. Those who are included in the second death are those who are not found in the Book of Life, those who rejected salvation through Christ. I noticed you did not include that part of the passage, so let's look at it together. Revelation 20:11-15 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. This has nothing to do with how long one is in the lake of fire or the second death. How did you come up with it not being eternal? Let's look at verse 10 now. Revelation 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. Unless these are two different places, which I do not believe they are, notice it says that" they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
  2. John 3:16-17 would agree with you, as do I. Since God sent Jesus to die for the whole world, that statement alone does not exclude anyone. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
  3. I'm not following ... why would you say He died for some and not all? I know this is your question, but where did it come from?
  4. To be separated from God and everything good from Him is enough to describe everlasting torment for me. It doesn't matter if it is for eternity or one second, it will be complete emotional, spiritual and physical devastation. @Hobie_ Can you tell me how this timing will separate us from God? I see nowhere in scripture where understanding how long one suffers if lost is a required for salvation.
  5. When the Holy Spirit convicts a person and moves them to repentance and acceptance of salvation, and one denies the Spirit's movement in their lives, is that not the same as saying this prompting is not from God? If it is not of God, than it must be from Satan; therefore, linking the rejection of salvation with casting out demons - both are of the Holy Spirit. To me, there is no difference and no "second" or third unforgivable sin.
  6. I have heard here, and other places, that God gave man the knowledge to use medicine in a way to help those who are suffering to live longer, and to ignore this "gift" is ignoring God's will. I don't buy it. I know that when it is my time, nothing will stop me from leaving.
  7. When you're hunger, you're hungry!
  8. Dog - Golden Retrievers Listen as I have a reading disability of sorts - takes me a long time to read Getting the dog hair off the rugs Don't know where my name came from, to be honest. Hamburg and beans
  9. @diane32 The thread was moved to the prayer forum after the questions were asked ...
  10. Please provide details of this torture and what she is imprisoned for. I am from the US and I find it hard to believe these acquisitions.
  11. Most likely a browser setting as yours looks the same as all others.
  12. Why use the word "lustfully" when zealous is a more appropriate and accurate word? You choice of words automatically throws a negative spin on the subject matter as lust is something to avoid. May I suggest you compare Acts 10:19 to Acts 17, especially verse 17 Therefore he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with the Gentile worshipers, and in the marketplace daily with those who happened to be there. We don't know if Paul was speaking one on one or if he was addressing the multitude as a whole. Still the same, Paul did go into the street, or marketplace where many gathered, to spread the gospel.
  13. I am sure "street preachers" have their calling. I am also just as sure that some are not really called to preach to the public, but do anyway. I know I am not, but we all are called for one on one sessions with people, telling them about His love through our testimony. If people would tell one person a day, and do this every day, and each person they told tells one person, the world would hear of His loving salvation in a short time. Within 30 days, 1,073,741,824 people would hear the good news.
  14. You could use this tool ... https://www.worthychristianforums.com/search/?q=D&type=core_members
  15. No, he is a well know apologist and usually deals with unbelievers. To save you some time, check out his videos on YouTube. Just type in Ravi Zacharias International Ministries. Look through his playlist.
  16. I have watched hours of his discussion and most of his answers are not generic by any means. Ravi gets very specific. Unless you take a good look at the discussions, you will not see how specific he gets. Saying that, if someone's mind is made up, no matter how specific you get, they will not change. On the other hand, scripture doesn't answer all the questions people come up with.
  17. Repentance is something that is done both at salvation, and throughout the rest of your life if you are in Christ. It is not one or the other, but both.
  18. I see this forum as a reflection of life. There are some solid mature Christians, some not so mature and wayward in their beliefs, there are some who are brand new to this life and need to be brought up like one would a child, and there are those who carry the title of Christian, but are not. I am not going to even try to distinguish who is who, just that this site allows me to nurture my faith so I can deal with the same issues in my personal life, be it something I am going through or something someone else is going through. Try to look through the words being typed and see the real person on the other side. Some who are angry and hateful are also suffering for some reason. I have rarely met anyone who is spiteful because the love being spiteful, but I have met a few in the years I have been alive. Rare as they may be, we also see them here. George, you have done a lot of work behind the scenes here and we can see it. Praying your load become much lighter.
  19. We all start near the same place you find yourself now, knowing, but not fully accepting or understanding who God is. The relationship with GOd is a life long relationship, and as with any relationship, it grows stronger every day as long as you remain in the relationship, not ignoring Him and what He is showing you about yourself and your relationship with Him. He know you better than you know yourself and is patient with all of us. Your conscience is a tool within us, used to warn us of wrongs. The question is, by what standards is your conscience working from? What is your measuring stick you use to determine what is right and what is wrong? Those who are His use scripture and learn to listen to the very quiet voice as He nudges us when we are in an area unfamiliar to the standards, or unsure of what to do. You conscience is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will convict us of sin through our conscience. John 16:5-15 But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. You are correct in saying that the Holy Spirit cannot live in the same temple as a demon. Yet, every demon is subject to the authority of GOd, and if it is the desire of the person to be His child, God will clean the temple of any demonic entity and the Holy Spirit will enter. Have you read Luke 11:24-26 and understood what is being said? Notice the verses before, where Jesus is discussing casting our a demon. Now, in the verses below, notice that the house was swept and in order. This is the condition of someone who has been cleaned of a demon, but the house was still empty as the one cleaned did not invite the God to enter in. If the person had done so, then the house would not of been empty for the demons to re-enter. So, if someone who is set free from demons reject His salvation, they will then be worst off then before. Luke 11:24-26 When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it swept and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
  20. @thomas t Have you listened to Ravi Zacharias yet? He tackles the questions you have. He also has YouTube videos that are very informative. Check his ministry out and gain the insights you are looking for.
  21. May I suggest you read Acts and watch how the people received the Holy Spirit. Those who never heard of the Holy Spirit never received Him until they were told about Him. They didn't have bible back then, so word of mouth was the only way to gain understanding. They did not have because they did not know. Same could be said today about those who do not have ... but notice that those who did receive, they had to accept and believe first. Just like salvation, God will not give anyone who does not believe the Holy Spirit either.
  22. Some of the pictures you show are displaying turn or burn signs. Those preachers are what I call hard hitters, bringing about the message of hell fire instead of getting to know the people and what their needs are. I prefer the latter when talking to people about God, but God may of sent them to do what they are doing knowing that there would be one person in their audience that needed to hear what they are preaching.
  23. Some do, some don't. It all depends on how the truth is spoken. I see more of God being glorified when you can meet the needs of everyday life for others than I do from hard hitting preaching. Still, who is to say if some of the hard hitters are not reaching one person who needed to hear the message? I surely can't.
  24. There is a forum called soapbox debate for debates. It is well monitored and only those who are in the debate are allowed to post, or an administrator when needed. I suggest you connect with an admin to set this up. Otherwise there is no telling who will post what in the middle of a debate ...
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