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  1. The invasion of Georgia by Russia should make a person at least think about what Russia is capable of. They are allies and have treaties in place with some of the very countries that you named. They supply technology to countries like Iran. Israel is in the background furnishing advisors to Georgia. It is front page news. And, why do you think that Russia has been dredging one of the sea ports in Syria for their Navy? It is not for their health. These actions are well thought out.
  2. Those ten nations you listed are the only members that have voting power in the WEU.
  3. I agree that a literal temple will be made, since the Lord talks about the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24 -- as I look at this passage in Daniel, it reminds me of a future abomination similar to Antiochous Ephimines (sp.) during the time of the Macabbean revolt. While I agree with this perspective, the passage in Revelation doesn't appear to me as a literal temple, but rather a spiritual temple -- because of the fact it says to measure the "worshipers". The phrase in Revelation 11:1, I believe should be focused on is -- Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. In the Young's Literal Translation it says -- Rise, and measure the sanctuary of God, and the altar, and those worshipping in it; In Greek, its an extremely reverent type of worship. For example, it's the same word used in John 4:23 -- But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. It seems to indicate that the "outer court" is trampled for 42 months (3 1/2 years), while the "inner court" has been measured by God and left protected. Of course, that's just my understanding of the passage and it shouldn't be considered "gospel" since I'm hardly perfect in my understanding of prophecy! Your brother in Christ with much agape love, George It is great that there is a place where we can share our views. I replied to this post after I replied to a post by Celt. I made a few comments there.
  4. There's still differences between the white horse rider of Rev.6:2 and our Lord Jesus on a white horse in Rev.19. In Rev.19 Christ has many crowns (diadems), and a two-edged sword symbol is given, whereas the rider in Rev.6:2 has bow of simple fabric and a crown (stephanos) that can also be translated as one of twine or a wreath. It points to the rider in Rev.6:2 as a lesser one and not Christ Jesus. I think the different colored horses in Zech.6 also have a prophetic part in those of Rev.6. So I wouldn't be swayed by Blindseeker's view of that just yet. CU4EVER, you are very correct about Matthew 24, that many events about Christ's second coming are given within that chapter pointing to the very last days. Those who choose men's theological categories as the measure of prophecy instead can simply deny those verses and stay in darkness as far as I'm concerned. Likewise with the idea that John was given to write the Book of Revelation prior to the 70 A.D. destruction of Jerusalem. The tradition that has been long held by Christianity when John wrote it was the time he was in exile on the Isle of Patmos during the reign of the Roman Emperor Domitian. Domitian's reign was between 81-96 A.D. The point that no "abomination of desolation" was setup in the Temple when the Roman general Titus destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D. is also important. Instead the Jews baracaded themselves inside the Temple and they set it on fire to prevent the Romans from entering into the inner sanctuary. That did not fit the "abomination of desolation" prophecy from the Book of Daniel which our Lord Jesus quoted in Matt.24. It means to keep looking for the fulfillment of it. And per our Lord Jesus in Matthew 24, where was He pointing to with the fulfillment of that "abomination of desolation" from the Book of Daniel? To Jerusalem, and not Rome. Hello Celt. I'm pretty new and just trying to understand how these things work. No, I am not changing my beliefs. What I learned is that the rider on the white horse may may not only use diplomatic methods to achieve his goals, but may in fact have weapons at his disposal to conquer (to take by force) with. The next thing that I considered was that in Revelation 1:12-18, John describes Jesus Christ in all of His glory when he sees Him and again in Revelaiton 19:11-16. John really seems to be in awe as he describes this rider, who is Jesus Christ. He describes the Lamb in Revelaiton 5:6-10. John really does not describe the rider in Revelaiton 6. He does not seem to be in awe. It may be that he is still focused on the Lamb as the rider leaves. And I wonder about something else. God is love, the Word tells us so. Would the Lamb of God send the Gospel out to take whoever it comes in contact with by force? I know what man has done with the Gospel but what about the Lamb of God? This is pretty cool. A tough topic and losts of views. I hope to learn a lot. It's not every day that you get to have this kind of communication about prophetic events.
  5. I believe that God showed John a future Temple that is yet to be built. So my belief is yet different. The analogy that Blindseeker gave about the rider on the white horse with the bow made me think.
  6. I was referring to the seven year tribulation theory founded upon Daniel 9:27. I address my understanding on that verse in this post on another thread. My personal persuasion is that Rev 6-10 was fulfilled with the destruction of Israel in 70 A.D. and that the remainder of the book is for the final "last days." Interesting. CU4EVER, I believe the book of Revelations to be a prophetic book warnings and of endings. Chapters 1-5 being admonitions to the present churches "to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass." These churches are believed by many to prophetically reflected the church through the ages. Chapters 6-10, the judgment that would soon come on Israel and bring her to Deut. 26:29
  7. I was referring to the seven year tribulation theory founded upon Daniel 9:27. I address my understanding on that verse in this post on another thread. My personal persuasion is that Rev 6-10 was fulfilled with the destruction of Israel in 70 A.D. and that the remainder of the book is for the final "last days." Interesting.
  8. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority
  9. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority
  10. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me. There are many in positions of authority with no real power. The two are distinctly different. A police man carries a gun (power) but he doesn't have the authority (legal authorization) to use it anyway he wishes. Same as a person who is in a legal place of leadership but lacks the powers or means to enforce his will, such as a leader in exile because of a overthrow, or a policeman who had his gun stolen in an assault. Power - the ability or strength to accomplish something Authority
  11. Or . . . it may mean he really has no power, only an illusion thereof. The crown would represent authority or power to me.
  12. Is the anti-christ revealed before or after the start of the tribulation? I am new to this message board thing. This is the first message board that I have ever registered on. I am very interested in prophetic events and enjoy good conversation about such events. Daniel 9:27 tells us that he (the antichrist) will confirm a covenant with many for one seven or for the final week of years (Daniels 70th week). I believe that this confirmation of the covenant will begin the 7 year tribulation period. That is the point at which the Antichrist will be revealed.
  13. The Anti-Christ will rule all people, tongues, and nations (Revelation 13:7). I believe that you are referring to the ten crowns on the ten horns on the seven headed beast that John sees in Revelation 13. Most scholars would say that the crowns represent kingdoms or naitons. The European Union has very similar boundaries of what the old Roman Empire would have had. In fact, if the European Neighborhood Policy is in effect, the boundaries are exactly the same. The Antichrist may in fact come from the European Union and more specifically, be from the Western European Union. The Western European Union is the same as the European Union with some exceptions. There are only 10 countries that have permanent voting powers. Also all military power lays in the same Western European Union.
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