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  1. You clearly have to balance your time. You have responsibilities to your family. As for taking on our least favorite tasks, ideally we should do them without complaining, but you can always let others know the things you enjoy doing most and feel the most comfortable doing, because they may not know that about you. It might be that they can give you things to do you are better suited for. We will do a better job with things we like than things we don't like, but there is always a possibility that you are doing things nobody else will do.
  2. Butero

    I'm A Roman Catholic

    The Bible is not a Catholic book. This lie has been repeated more than once in this thread. The Bible existed long before the RCC came into being. All the RCC did was compile books that already existed and place them into a single volume they call the Holy Bible. They can take credit for that, but not the contents. That brings me to another issue. The commandment doesn't say "Thou shalt have no strange gods before me." Just because the RCC compiled books that already existed and placed them into a single volume doesn't give them the authority to change the commandment of God to suit their purposes. Things that are not in the Bible that the RCC teaches: Purgatory. That is not found in the 66 books of the Protestant Bible or the 73 books of the Catholic Bible. Praying the Rosary. Not in the Bible. The perpetual virginity of Mary. Jesus had brethren, so the RCC simply gives a silly explanation for who they were, but they do not give us any valid reason why Mary, who was a married woman, remained a virgin till her death. God never commanded such a thing, and this would go against what is taught in 1 Corinthians about the relationship between a man and wife. Prayers to Mary. We are taught in scripture to address our prayers to the Father in Jesus' name. Asking departed saints to pray for us. We are not taught to do that in scripture, nor given any reason to believe they can hear us. Talking to statues. We are never taught to do that, and this is a type of idolatry. They are graven images. Office of Pope. Not found in scripture. Peter was never referred to as a Pope, or even the highest ranking Apostle. If he was the Pope, I find it interesting that Paul rebuked him to his face. Nuns. Not found in scripture. Priests Not being able to marry.
  3. I think you know the answer to the questions before you asked. What you are describing is just being human, and that battle with the flesh. We all have our struggles with things like that, but of course, ideally we should always serve the Lord cheerfully, and should always have a good attitude. The Bible says we will be rewarded in heaven for all we do for God.
  4. Butero

    Why I left my church and family.

    It is hard to know where to begin. The reason why I did not vote for Obama either time is because he supports things like the murder of unborn children. When he was a state Senator in Illinois, he fought to prevent medical care being given to babies born alive after a botched late term abortion. I could never vote for someone like that. In the case of Roy Moore, there is no proof he did any of the criminal things he was accused of. He did date young women, but there is no sin in that, and in this country, it is legal for what is considered under aged girls to marry with parent's approval. This is not that uncommon in the southern states where our culture differs from other parts of the nation. In the case of Trump, all of the things he did wrong were more than a decade before he ran for President. If you look at the things Hillary did, like destroying the lives of women her husband abused, Trump was clearly the more moral of the two. That may not be saying much, but Hillary was far worse, and never changed. We were faced with two morally flawed individuals, so it came down to issues, and Trump was far better in that regard than Clinton. You said you moved to Canada with your boyfriend. I am assuming you are living together outside of marriage, and that is a sin. The Bible says fornicators will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven. You had every right to leave your adulterous husband. What you are describing is not the Christianity of the Bible. It does not even come close to matching up with what Jesus taught. You may be happier, but what you are describing is not Biblical truth.
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    President Trump

    Now he has a track record, so those how can I trust him questions are out the window. For me, the decision to vote for Trump was an easy one, because the alternative with a chance to win was Hillary. I had nothing to lose.
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    President Trump

    I don't know how others choose their candidates, but I have NEVER voted based on perceived character of an individual. Much of the time, what you see isn't real anyway. I have ALWAYS voted for the candidate based on issues, all the way back to Reagan. I have no regrets about it. How they govern effects the nation more than if they are good moral people. Jimmy Carter is a decent person that was an awful President.
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    President Trump

    I was very skeptical of him, but I voted for him anyway as a vote against Clinton. I am not a skeptic anymore. He is doing an outstanding job, and I wouldn't hesitate to support him if he runs again against nearly any potential opponent. I was originally a Ted Cruz supporter.
  8. That is interesting, because I have always seen the "beginning of sorrows," as taking place before the 7 year tribulation. I believe we may well be living in the "beginning of sorrows." I have never seen an end time chart like this one.
  9. Claiming the seals and trumpets are simultaneous is speculation on your part. There is nothing in scripture to back that up. What backs up my contention that God's wrath is taking place before the 6th seal is what is happening with the opening of the previous seals. They are all examples of God's wrath being poured out. As to the when, the whole point is that no man knows the day or hour of the Lord's return. God doesn't want us to know when the rapture will take place. It could be any moment. It doesn't even have to be immediately before the tribulation begins. That is just assumed. It could take place decades before the tribulation starts. If there is no rapture, we can pinpoint when the Lord will return based on what is taking place in the world. 3 1/2 years after the anti-Christ shows himself as the anti-Christ in the temple, we will know the Lord will return. There is no mystery. There is no speculation, but Jesus said no man will know when he is going to return, but only God the Father.
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    New Testament Inerrancy

    Finding so-called errors in the KJV Bible is nonsense to me. I pick that stuff apart all the time. I can show none are mistakes. I have been debating this topic for decades. I feel very strong about that.
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    Rewards and Punishment

    I don't think envy will be an issue, but wishing we had done more is possible. It is more than size of mansion, but also positions.
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    New Testament Inerrancy

    I am going to make a statement Still Alive, to see how far apart we are. Just tell me if you disagree with any of it. I believe my KJV Bible is the inerrant Word of God with no mistakes or contradictions. If the KJV New Testament says something is right, it is right. If it says something is wrong, it is wrong. God dictated his words to us through human vessels. The epistles are as relevant today as when they were written. They are as mail to my church from God, and I should interpret them that way. I don't need the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts to have perfection. God preserved his Word perfectly in my KJV Bible. How far apart are we?
  13. That is not true. Revelation 6:14-17 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the WRATH of the Lamb: For the great day of his WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand? This is before the 7th and last trump.
  14. I am not renouncing anything, as I don't think you have made a good case. I was just reading through Revelation yesterday, and the word wrath is used to describe the angels pouring out God's wrath. Your own post here would argue for a pre-tribulation rapture based on that alone. There won't be a billion people going in the rapture. The number will be very small. This is where I disagree with the Hal Lindsey types. I do not believe everyone will go in the rapture because they are a professing Christian. The lukewarm will be left behind. That is because they weren't paying attention, and were careless in how they live, even though they were warned. That scripture in 1 Thessalonians does not guarantee that every professing Christian will escape wrath. It is speaking to those who are genuinely following Christ. Let's examine that scripture a little closer. 1 Thessalonians 5:9... For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. Everyone likes to insert themselves into these scriptures, as though they definitely apply to them. Sinners read the Bible, so when it says "God hath not appointed us to wrath," you have to understand who "us" really is. This does not include every lukewarm church member, which makes up a huge part of the Christian church world. Only a relatively small number will go in the rapture. You might well call them privileged, but they wouldn't be the first privileged people. How many people were taken up to heaven not knowing death? Two privileged people I know of named Enoch and Elijah. It will be a relatively small number, not likely over a billion, and this teaching isn't intended to be widely trumpeted. It is a mystery. It is a hidden truth. Keeping your life in order does not mean simply paying your bills. But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. Luke 12:45,46 Most professing Christians will go through the tribulation period, but not all. Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Some will escape all of those things. They are indeed privileged. Let's go back to your comments about wrath. Have you actually looked at Revelation and how many times the word wrath is used concerning the tribulation period? And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the WRATH of the Lamb: For the great day of his WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev 6:16,17 And the nations were angry, and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Rev 11:18 The same shall drink of the wine of the WRATH of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation, and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb. Rev 14:10 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvelous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the WRATH of God. Rev 15:1 That is not even a complete list of all the times the word wrath is used to describe what takes place during the great tribulation period, but don't worry. You can renounce your beliefs and start fresh. Yes, the truth is out there. You do not have to continue this.