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  1. With what sort of love? Omegaman 3.0 6/5/2019 I recently posted in a thread at Worthy Christian Forums, where there seemed to be some disagreement about the nature of the kind of love that Christians are supposed to have. There also seemed to be some disagreement and even questions about whether or not some to the Bible’s statements contradict each other on this topic. I felt compelled to chime in. Not to toot my own horn, but as I developed my reply, I thought some of my comments were worth making a note of here, since they represent my thoughts (which is what a blog is, after all) and some of them arose out of my analysis of what people were disputing, so here it goes: I do not have two cents, but I have a nickel: I certainly see no contradiction between what Jesus said, and what John said, but I will offer my thoughts or opinions, as a sort of unsolicited, under-qualified commentary: First observation: 34 But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” My comment on that passage is that Jesus said that loving others is a commandment, and He is referring to the Law, so THAT is not new! What was the standard? Love others as you love yourself. Second observation: 34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13 My comment on this one is that Jesus said it is new. If He said it is new, then it IS new. What is new about it? Jesus upped the standard. The standard here is not love each other as you love yourself, but love each other has Jesus Himself loved them. How was that? Self-sacrificially, Jesus DIED for them, that is real love. John tells us that when he reports that Jesus also said: Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13 So, the NEW commandment you will note, is not to the general public, it was to His disciples. John also noted that Jesus gave his disciples a purpose, the positive side effect: "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:25 So, the new command so far is that disciples are to love other disciples, with the same sort of love, the greatest love, self-sacrificial love, as Jesus demonstrated on the cross, not that we must die, but that is the supreme example of that kind of love. Tradition has it, that all the apostles except Judas and John, died as martyrs, and John was willing. They tried to boil him in oil, it just did not work, so he was banished to Patmos, where he penned the book of Revelation. As a side note, when Peter was told he was to be crucified, Peter asked Jesus about John - well, what about him (John)? Jesus basic answer was, that is none of your business Peter! From what we think we know, John died of "natural" causes, in his old age. So, for the most part, the disciples lived out their mission the obey the commandment, the loved us, all disciples enough to die in their efforts to see that we got Jesus message. At this juncture, I would like to point out something else, from Matthew 28: 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. So, Jesus disciples were told to make other disciples. If you are a believer, you are one of the disciples of disciples of disciples, etc. The disciples were to teach others to obey Jesus. If you are a TRUE disciple, you will seek to, want to, obey Jesus. After all, that is what a disciple is, one who follows their teacher. Our ultimate Teacher then, is Jesus. What is it then, that we are taught to obey then? Among other things: Make more disciples and teach them to obey Jesus, and that includes loving other believers with the unique love that Jesus lavished upon them. So, for the most part, the disciples lived out their mission they obeyed the commandment, the loved us, all disciples enough to die in their efforts to see that we got Jesus message. They practices what they preached, and the preached what Jesus told them to. So many of the quotes I supplied ARE from John, how then is that a contradiction? John knew that there was an Old Testament command, to love others as ourselves. He also was quick to point out that those in the Jesus' church, were to go beyond that sort of love, the easy love that even pagans so. Toward each other, they were to with a supernatural love that is not given to everyone, but believers are given that ability, and are told to exercise it. Love is an aspect of the fruit of the Spirit, the Paul describes in Gal 5:22 and Eph 5:19. (Those are links, by the way) Paul also describes love in 1 Cor 13: 4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. 8 Love never ends. With all of this great information in the Bible (not in my post), the real question is: HOW WELL DO WE ALL MEASURE UP? I also ask, that you consider praying about this in your own lives, that you pray for others also, and not the least, for me also, as we all need it at times. Go forth and love, to the Glory of God!
  2. In as much as I enjoy writing from time to time, I do so in a blog here. In as much as my ego demands that I assume a few other might enjoy or benefit from what I write, I have made a table of contents of my blog entries. Also, at the bottom, I added a link to diagrams and charts. Occasionally, they are helpfull was to illustrate beliefs, doctrans and other things, so that is a place to store them and find them when I need them, you can look and see too if you like. You might disagree with them, I do not pretend they are perfect, just a growing colltion of illustrations of a growing understanding. Fun with Numbers and the Probability of God's Existence Five Minute Theology - Ongoing online study here, begins July 2015 (should you?) - Updated July 2015 http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-43-is-social-security-a-ponzi-scheme/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-42-how-i-study-the-bible-one-approach/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-41-did-jesus-rise-from-the-dead/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-40-its-my-right-or-is-it/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-39-propaganda-deception-myth-junk-science-can-you-distinguish-the-truth/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-38-what-worthy-means-to-me/ http://www.worthychristianforums.com/blog/25/entry-37-lessons-form-the-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-lawsuit/ Charts, diagrams, graphical illustrations
  3. I apologize for posting this again, it was posted in the past, but I cannot locate the video here anymore. In a different thread, someone asked about what people's understanding of this verse is. Knowing that I had some thoughts on this recorded in this video, I thought I would just refer her to this.
  4. Many of you know that I made an unsuccessful run for U.S. Dictator in 2012. Now, you will see the kinds of things you are missing out of because of voters wasting their votes electing Obama. I notice that the news is pointing out that Texas and Oklahoma are flooding, while California is suffering a drought. California is an oil rich state, in fact at the moment, oil is oozing out of the ocean floor and covering beaches and wildlife. Texas and Oklahoma are oil rich states also. Oil has three major uses. It is a source of energy, and lubricants and plastics are manufactured from it. All three of these states and Arizona and New Mexico could use some job creation. OKAY, no big deal, simple problems to solve. First let take some of this oil for energy, Use the energy in manufacturing in all five of these state. These states will manufacture plastic pipes (also from the petroleum) and then use the energy to transport these pipes and lay them out from Oklahoma to the left coast. of course all of this activity will create jobs. We can use some of the energy from the oil to manufacture pumps which will be installed in all of these states and these pumps will be powered by electricity produced from some of the oil. Now all that we need to do is to suck up the excess water from Oklahoma and from Texas and send it to California where there are plenty of half-empty reservoirs waiting to receive it. If New Mexico and Arizona would like some of this water they can tap into these pipelines and their usage of the water can compensate them for the use of land that the pipelines are running across or running through. So there you have it increased employment in five states, flooding eliminated in Oklahoma and in Texas, we can suck up the oil spill in California along with the seawater and put it into a vertical tank so we can take the oil off the top and return the seawater in the bottom of the tank back to the ocean. West Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California all get much needed water. Of course for something like this to happen one would have to have a dictator. Conventional politics and bureaucracies work far too slowly to get started so instead of solving problems, disasters and their aftermaths just drag on. As a brilliant would-be dictator, I have other ideas, including one that might be able to eliminate the need for a dictator at all. In the meantime I expect to see our country languish and continue its decline until Jesus returns.
  5. What worthy means to me. Posted by Omegaman 2.0 on the April 11th, 2006 I came to worthychat as a fluke (God may have had something else in mind). I had tried a chatroom one time before, and thought that it was crazy, I wondered how anyone could keep up. One night I had nothing better to do, and I wondered if any Christian chat rooms existed, and what were they like? I Googled for Christian chatrooms, and found Worthy. People greeting me were friendly. I do not know how I got into the topic, but I remember talking about Romans 7, how that passage represented my life and thoughts. I do not remember much about the conversation, other than the fact that a male Worthy admin, ministered to me, I had not expected that. I came back a few times, intending to involve myself in theological discussions, I saw myself as being a thought catalyst, one who would make people think about their own positions, I actually had an agenda of sorts, that was the role I thought was my “job”. Things did not work out exactly like that though. People sometimes say that life is what happens, while you are making other plans. I find that often, it is God that happens to you while you are making other plans. Sometimes, God has a different plan than we envision, and we need to be open to that. I believe that if we as Christians, were more open to God’s plans, there would not be a single divorce among Christian couples. It was not too long, before I found myself in the position of administrator at Worthy, that was not in my plans. I found that before I was an admin, and especially afterward, that many people would confide in me, with amazing honesty, especially younger believers, and I often found myself in the role of counselor, something that I never envisioned and if someone had told me before hand, I would have dismissed them as a kook. I discovered, that not only did I have some aptitude for it, but I found it extremely rewarding. I never expected that either. Admins find themselves in the position of moderating conversation, protecting the innocent, trying to be Bible Answer man, prayer warrior, counselor, defender of the faith, evangelist, etc. When you have to do these things, you cannot make everyone happy. Speak the truth, someone will not like it. We get ridiculed, attacked, blamed, and slandered. We are privy to peoples very personal issues, some are very sad and tragic, others are wonderful stories of victory, blessing, and God’s intervention. Again, none of this was expected by me. Much of it is hard on us, we try not to let it show. One thing I can say about it, it is very different, that it looked like from the chatter's point of view. I can say without reservation, that it is one of the most rewarding things I have done. While I hate it when I handle a situation poorly and feelings are hurt, I accept that as a part of the job, and the arrows thrown at us, I accept gladly, for such is the life of a Christian. If you are not getting some kind of attack, I think you are not doing your job as a Christian. I would not trade this for the world. Never expected that either. I pray with people, cry with people, encourage people, help people understand the mysteries of God, as best I can. Never had as much opportunity to do such things before Worthy. The biggest thing is, that I have discovered many members of my large family in Christ here, I love you all, and am thankful for you, you minister to me, and teach me daily. You add purpose to my life, and another opportunity to serve my Lord. It doesn’t get any better than this in this life, thank you all. 4 Responses to 'What worthy means to me.' Rebekah David said, ON APRIL 23RD, 2006 AT 11:47 AM I came to Worthy looking for Christian support at a time of real struggle in my life. Though I have a wonderful church family my hours of work makes regular fellowshipping hard except on Sundays. My best freind who was 28 and a young mother of three was dying of cancer. I found more than support here- i found the arms and feet and voice of comfort and compassion of the Spirit of the Lord through His people.I found my family. Many of the admins here offered encouragement and support one in particular- Jade -spent untold days hours upon hours in pms with me as i tried to replace the images of the aweful physical changes my best freind was going through with the assurity that God was still here going through this with her and with me and that He was still in control and that this would be used for His glory. God through ,Jade, let me lay down those burdens and focus instead on His gift of eternal life. I found a family of brothers and sisters here who love the Lord and each other. Who encourage, and instruct, and are a joy to know. It makes me look forward even more eagerly to that great reunion we will all be at with our Lord and Savior. Donna Ps25 said, ON JUNE 24TH, 2006 AT 8:38 AM Perfectly said, omegaman. Thanks. I, like Rebekah, came here at a time of struggle in life. Worthychat family helped pull me through that hard time. Chief took me under his wing and helped me a lot in that time. It’s been 3 1/2yrs now for me, and I”m so grateful for both the experiences as a chatter and an admin here. Wouldhe said, ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2006 AT 8:13 PM One word- AMEN. Eric said, ON AUGUST 2ND, 2007 AT 7:31 AM Eric… Nice post. Learned a lot….
  6. Fist off, yes, this truly was a lost video, that I just rediscovered and finished. Unfortunately, dispite being in the comedy section, it is not that funny, and I apologize for that. WARNING: If you are offended by the suggestion, that the influx of illegal immigrants is a negative thing for the U.S., then please do not watch this video. I intend no offense toward anyone. However, if you choose to risk offense, then that is on you. [media=]
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