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I have always believed in a pre-trib rapture. I think that Jesus spoke of it in mathew 25:10. Jesus said also to pray that you may be counted worthy to escape the things coming on this world and to stand before the Son of man. Also it clearly says in mathew 24 that two will be in the field, one taken and the other left, two will be grinding at the mill and one taken and the other left. My question is this, are they grinding in complete darkness? Are two working in the field without the mark of the beast? If there is no rapture before the tribulation, and we know that after the tribulation the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars of heaven will be falling, but wait these two are grinding at the mill in complete darkness. weird! and two are in the field obviously working it, and one is taken! weird! Does he have the mark? because no one can buy or sell except he has the mark, I doubt if any at that time will be able to own land or work without it. Plus How is our Lord coming as a thief at the end of the tribulation? It says the will hide themselves in the rocks and say fall on us, hide us from the face of Him who sits upon the throne! my point it that they will be expecting Him. Now about the word APOSTASIA in 2 thessalonians verse 3, The first 7 english translations rendered the word DEPARTURE! It is my contention that satan himself doesnt want believers to know that the bride can be called home at any moment. Satan doesnt want you to be ready when the Father tells the Son to go get your bride, In rev 12 verse 4, it says the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. I have wondered much about this verse. I have asked myself why the dragon would stand before the woman and even think for a moment that he could devour her child as soon as it was born. Well I dont know for sure but when the harpazo takes place there will be those who are ready and those who are not. The ones who are ready will be taken, it is mt thought that who satan is waiting for are those who didnt make the rapture. A separation will be made, and those professing christians who didnt really know the Lord will be thrown into great tribulation. I have much much more to say on this subject. please comment, and may the Lord prepare us all to meet Him in the clouds! Shalom!